I don't understand the Target thing.

nc_jammer1
nc_jammer1 Posts: 547
edited July 2009 in The Porch
I'm from Canada, so I won't have to find the closest Target to buy Backspacer,..at least I hope not.
I just can't wrap my head around this arrangement with Target for the new album distribution.

I'm just afraid that it comes off as hypocritical.

:?
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  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun
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    NC264109 wrote:
    I'm from Canada, so I won't have to find the closest Target to buy Backspacer,..at least I hope not.
    I just can't wrap my head around this arrangement with Target for the new album distribution.

    I'm just afraid that it comes off as hypocritical.

    :?
    i dont really see how its so hypocritical. all their other albums are available at Target, Wal-Mart, Best Buy, etc. so now i cant buy an album at Wal-mart, who cares?
  • cincybearcat
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    NC264109 wrote:
    I'm from Canada, so I won't have to find the closest Target to buy Backspacer,..at least I hope not.
    I just can't wrap my head around this arrangement with Target for the new album distribution.

    I'm just afraid that it comes off as hypocritical.

    :?


    It's a multi-prong approach. Selling through the fan club, and indie stores, as well as target.

    So, the volume being sold through Target only takes away from other "big box" stores like Best Buy and Walmart, etc. So at least it's good in that respect.

    Now, woudl I prefer to be able ot buy it anywhere...yep, but it's not nearly as bad as it first appeared.
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  • nc_jammer1
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    MrSmith wrote:
    NC264109 wrote:
    I'm from Canada, so I won't have to find the closest Target to buy Backspacer,..at least I hope not.
    I just can't wrap my head around this arrangement with Target for the new album distribution.

    I'm just afraid that it comes off as hypocritical.

    :?
    i dont really see how its so hypocritical. all their other albums are available at Target, Wal-Mart, Best Buy, etc. so now i cant buy an album at Wal-mart, who cares?


    I haven't done extensive research, so forgive me if I'm wrong,...but isn't it true that they've struck a deal with Target to be the sole big store distributor for this new album. I don't think this would have been on their radar ten years ago.
  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    NC264109 wrote:
    MrSmith wrote:
    NC264109 wrote:
    I'm from Canada, so I won't have to find the closest Target to buy Backspacer,..at least I hope not.
    I just can't wrap my head around this arrangement with Target for the new album distribution.

    I'm just afraid that it comes off as hypocritical.

    :?
    i dont really see how its so hypocritical. all their other albums are available at Target, Wal-Mart, Best Buy, etc. so now i cant buy an album at Wal-mart, who cares?


    I haven't done extensive research, so forgive me if I'm wrong,...but isn't it true that they've struck a deal with Target to be the sole big store distributor for this new album. I don't think this would have been on their radar ten years ago.


    previously their sole distributor was sony
  • tvismyfriend
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    The Target deal is only for the US. In Canada you should be able to buy it from any place that sells cds.
  • Phantom Pain
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    Yes Sony...a very small mom and pop company

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  • Bravejamriot
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    NC264109 wrote:
    MrSmith wrote:
    NC264109 wrote:
    I'm from Canada, so I won't have to find the closest Target to buy Backspacer,..at least I hope not.
    I just can't wrap my head around this arrangement with Target for the new album distribution.

    I'm just afraid that it comes off as hypocritical.

    :?
    i dont really see how its so hypocritical. all their other albums are available at Target, Wal-Mart, Best Buy, etc. so now i cant buy an album at Wal-mart, who cares?


    I haven't done extensive research, so forgive me if I'm wrong,...but isn't it true that they've struck a deal with Target to be the sole big store distributor for this new album. I don't think this would have been on their radar ten years ago.

    10 years ago they had Sony to take care of selling the albums. They are doing it on their own and need to make their own deals this time.
  • Vedd Hedd
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    NC264109 wrote:
    I'm from Canada, so I won't have to find the closest Target to buy Backspacer,..at least I hope not.
    I just can't wrap my head around this arrangement with Target for the new album distribution.

    I'm just afraid that it comes off as hypocritical.

    :?


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  • PJammin'
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    how is target any different than the album being distributed by sony? both are big corporations. the album has to be distributed somehow...or do you want the band to sell the album out of the back of their cars? how about a HUGE PEARL JAM BUS? people don't think.
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  • sgtppr67
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    NC264109 wrote:
    I haven't done extensive research, so forgive me if I'm wrong,...but isn't it true that they've struck a deal with Target to be the sole big store distributor for this new album. I don't think this would have been on their radar ten years ago.

    I don't think this was on anyone's radar ten years ago. This type of deal is something that is fairly new to the art of selling music. It is just the nature of the beast now. In the last ten years how many record stores have closed shop? In this area i can think of several independent stores, and there was the musicland/samgoody chain that went under to. If you want to sell your product and make money you have to do what works, and right now that is these Exclusive deals.
  • Phantom Pain
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    Vedd Hedd wrote:
    NC264109 wrote:
    I'm from Canada, so I won't have to find the closest Target to buy Backspacer,..at least I hope not.
    I just can't wrap my head around this arrangement with Target for the new album distribution.

    I'm just afraid that it comes off as hypocritical.

    :?


    How would you suggest they sell it?

    Out of the trunk of Ed's car !

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  • CJMST3K
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    edited July 2009
    tvismyfriend wrote:
    The Target deal is only for the US. In Canada you should be able to buy it from any place that sells cds.

    From some article a number of weeks back:
    Target will be their exclusive big-box seller (partner).
    Their deal also accommodates mom-and-pop music stores selling their records.
    Also PJ can sell direct.

    While I am not a fan of them taking on Bud Light and Verizon Wireless as tour sponsors (especially because of the HUGE deal they themselves made about it for so long) I'm not that opposed to them going with Target/Mom-N-Pop/PJ-website as their three ways of selling the music. (plus iTunes I assume)

    I believe because of increased illegal downloading of their music, they needed to cut a deal to make more money per CD on the ones that are actually purchased.
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  • nc_jammer1
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    tvismyfriend wrote:
    The Target deal is only for the US. In Canada you should be able to buy it from any place that sells cds.

    Thats good for us,..I was wondering how the American fans feel about this arrangement.

    I feel that maybe they're taking baby steps out of their socially aware non-commercial attitude of their 30's, and starting to dip their toes into new waters,...sorta like U2, Coldplay etc.
  • norm
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    Vedd Hedd wrote:
    NC264109 wrote:
    I'm from Canada, so I won't have to find the closest Target to buy Backspacer,..at least I hope not.
    I just can't wrap my head around this arrangement with Target for the new album distribution.

    I'm just afraid that it comes off as hypocritical.

    :?


    How would you suggest they sell it?


    ed and boom should travel the world delivering it to each of us ;)
  • Vedd Hedd
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    norm wrote:
    Vedd Hedd wrote:
    NC264109 wrote:
    I'm from Canada, so I won't have to find the closest Target to buy Backspacer,..at least I hope not.
    I just can't wrap my head around this arrangement with Target for the new album distribution.

    I'm just afraid that it comes off as hypocritical.

    :?


    How would you suggest they sell it?


    ed and boom should travel the world delivering it to each of us ;)


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  • rival.
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    order it from 10c......?????????????????
  • smobee
    smobee Valparaiso Indiana Posts: 178
    The only problem I have with them selling it only at Traget is this. If cd I order from 10C doesn't show by the time it hits store's, obviously I'm going to my local record store...oh wait, those don't exist around here anymore. I'll have to look for one. So if I can't find a local record store, I have to go to Target. Unfortuantly thats 25 - 30 minutes away. When I drive home, for the 30 minutes or so do I listen to it in the car or do I wait till I'm home, relaxing, and blaring it on the speakers? Wait, didn't Stone say it will be on itunes? I wont have to go anywhere. Download it and listen until CD arrives in mail! Thats what i'll do. If you are on this forrum, you know you can buy it here. Whats the big deal?
  • CJMST3K
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    singularity wrote:
    order it from 10c......?????????????????


    Or from a mom-and-pop record store
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  • nc_jammer1
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    sgtppr67 wrote:
    NC264109 wrote:
    I haven't done extensive research, so forgive me if I'm wrong,...but isn't it true that they've struck a deal with Target to be the sole big store distributor for this new album. I don't think this would have been on their radar ten years ago.

    I don't think this was on anyone's radar ten years ago. This type of deal is something that is fairly new to the art of selling music. It is just the nature of the beast now. In the last ten years how many record stores have closed shop? In this area i can think of several independent stores, and there was the musicland/samgoody chain that went under to. If you want to sell your product and make money you have to do what works, and right now that is these Exclusive deals.

    I guess my point was I never envisioned them jumping on this bandwagon,... there is irony here, which could appear hypocritical to some.

    No doubt we can all talk about economics, corporate and distribution structures of this deal,..obviously it benefits the boys of Pearl Jam.

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