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Pearl Jam does not play 3 hour sets!

Jammin909Jammin909 Posts: 888
edited July 2009 in The Porch
I see post after post mentioning 3 hour sets, particularly when defending the high ticket prices. I have seen PJ 15 times and I have yet to see a 3 hour show. Last year they came on stage a bit before 9PM and were off by 11PM. That's 2 hours to 2 hours 15 minutes on average. Sure they have played 3 hour sets in Mansfield and State College the last couple years, and EV always mentions onstage that they arent going anywhere for a while, but lets be honest, less than 5% of the sets hit 3 hours.
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  • PJammin'PJammin' Posts: 1,902
    yeah, who do these people think they are! it's once in a blue moon PJ plays music for actually 3 hours! i'm not complainin' though. i'll take what i can get. :D
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    Bonnnnaaroooo!!! :D8-)
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  • BeerBaronBeerBaron Toronto-ish Posts: 4,097
    I have been to 31 shows, and I have only ever seen 2 3hour sets: Buffalo 03 & Ottawa 05.
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  • LukinFanLukinFan Florida Posts: 29,072
    SpinningBombs wrote:
    Bonnnnaaroooo!!! :D8-)
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  • mrveddersonmrvedderson Posts: 784
    edited July 2009
    SpinningBombs wrote:
    Bonnnnaaroooo!!! :D8-)


    just what i was thinkin,.....wait, bootleg says only 2 hour 25 min, sure felt like all night though, uh oh and thats when they played All Night for the first time, conspiracy?, :lol:
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  • blackmosquito23blackmosquito23 Posts: 181
    SpinningBombs wrote:
    Bonnnnaaroooo!!! :D8-)

    Yea man - just ask Kanye :lol:
  • DiRtYyELLoWoCeAnDiRtYyELLoWoCeAn Medford, Ma Posts: 1,605
    Even though they dont play many, it's a nice treat when you do get them! Also,they play about an hour longer then any other arena band out there! Just my two cents!
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  • over bendsover bends Posts: 1,568
    I've been to 7 shows and they hit 2 hrs 45 mins four times (DC 08, both MSG 08, ER II 06). I think DC 08 was the longest at about 2:50. But yeah, they have this rep as a 3 hour show band, and I've been to a few 3 hour shows from other bands (Ween, even Chris Cornell) but never from Pearl Jam. It's pretty rare. The other three times I've seen them it was more 2 hours 20 minutes. I'm not complaining, but sometimes it seems that 3 hours is the norm based on discussion on here when that's not really true.
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  • blackmosquito23blackmosquito23 Posts: 181
    over bends wrote:
    I've been to 7 shows and they hit 2 hrs 45 mins four times (DC 08, both MSG 08, ER II 06). I think DC 08 was the longest at about 2:50. But yeah, they have this rep as a 3 hour show band, and I've been to a few 3 hour shows from other bands (Ween, even Chris Cornell) but never from Pearl Jam. It's pretty rare. The other three times I've seen them it was more 2 hours 20 minutes. I'm not complaining, but sometimes it seems that 3 hours is the norm based on discussion on here when that's not really true.

    I think people have a tendency to round up when talking about show length.
  • SpinningBombsSpinningBombs Posts: 270
    blackmosquito23 wrote:

    I think people have a tendency to round up when talking about show length.

    Yeah, 2.5 = 3 ;)
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  • hopethatuchokehopethatuchoke Posts: 2,927
    I think people (apologists) will also grasp for any thing they can to aide in their argument.
  • 100 Pacer100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 9,068
    No love for the '96 Randells Island show?

    "I had this dream that we would just keep playing and playing and people would start to leave,..."

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  • SpinningBombsSpinningBombs Posts: 270
    100 Pacer wrote:
    No love for the '96 Randells Island show?

    "I had this dream that we would just keep playing and playing and people would start to leave,..."

    :)

    Ahhh... such a great show (my 1st)...I love that they had to huddle a number of times to decide which songs to ADD to the set list...
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  • G ForceG Force Posts: 1,393
    I always round up when it comes to length... I mean... 3.25 inches is close enough to 4".
  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,224
    DiRtYyELLoWoCeAn wrote:
    Even though they dont play many, it's a nice treat when you do get them! Also,they play about an hour longer then any other arena band out there! Just my two cents!
    And about an hour (at least) shorter than Phish. I still love 'em though :D
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  • Kanye EastKanye East Posts: 782
    blackmosquito23 wrote:
    SpinningBombs wrote:
    Bonnnnaaroooo!!! :D8-)

    Yea man - just ask Kanye :lol:

    Who me? Lol...Bonnaroo, State College and the Gorge were all over 3 hour shows!!
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  • Kanye EastKanye East Posts: 782
    benjs wrote:
    DiRtYyELLoWoCeAn wrote:
    Even though they dont play many, it's a nice treat when you do get them! Also,they play about an hour longer then any other arena band out there! Just my two cents!
    And about an hour (at least) shorter than Phish. I still love 'em though :D

    Phish is boring, imo. They drag songs out waaaaay too long. If your down with spinning in circles for 3 hours, then Phish is your band. But if you wanna rock and roll, Pearl Jam is what you're looking for!!
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  • PJFAN_seattlePJFAN_seattle Posts: 2,965
    I can settle for 2 and a half hours :mrgreen:
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  • mikesbrimikesbri Toronto Posts: 1,002
    BeerBaron wrote:
    I have been to 31 shows, and I have only ever seen 2 3hour sets: Buffalo 03 & Ottawa 05.

    that was a great night in Buffalo
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  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    OK, cool. Thanks for the update.
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,533
    DiRtYyELLoWoCeAn wrote:
    Even though they dont play many, it's a nice treat when you do get them! Also,they play about an hour longer then any other arena band out there! Just my two cents!

    So you're saying arena bands only play for an hour and 15 minutes? What shows have you been going to !?!?!?! And is it too late to get a refund?
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  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,224
    Kanye East wrote:
    benjs wrote:
    DiRtYyELLoWoCeAn wrote:
    Even though they dont play many, it's a nice treat when you do get them! Also,they play about an hour longer then any other arena band out there! Just my two cents!
    And about an hour (at least) shorter than Phish. I still love 'em though :D

    Phish is boring, imo. They drag songs out waaaaay too long. If your down with spinning in circles for 3 hours, then Phish is your band. But if you wanna rock and roll, Pearl Jam is what you're looking for!!
    They definitely do drag songs out way too long sometimes.. I was lucky that my first (and only at this point) Phish show was not too jam-heavy.. also, before you knock it, it's worth going to one - the light show is PHENOMENAL, the musicianship is truly mind-blowing (even if you hate their music - which I'd say I do), and the experience is so much fun. Between throwing beach balls around, to the glowstick war that went on between the lawns and the seats, to watching the drummer take a vacuum cleaner solo, to doing solos on trampolines, to an a Capella version of Hello My Baby (which they screwed up and decided to switch instruments and let the drummer sing for Pink Floyd's Bike), it was a totally enjoyable evening. And by the way - they played for four hours - a perfectly average length Phish set.
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  • Nuzpaper.Nuzpaper. Posts: 112
    BeerBaron wrote:
    I have been to 31 shows, and I have only ever seen 2 3hour sets: Buffalo 03 & Ottawa 05.

    2 amazing shows
  • DiRtyFranK38DiRtyFranK38 Posts: 3,131
    msg came pretty close last year. 30 songs, 3 encores .. pretty damn close to 3 hours
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  • Nuzpaper.Nuzpaper. Posts: 112
    [/quote]

    that was a great night in Buffalo[/quote]

    and you don't hear that often :D
  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,279
    You try carrying that energy for 2.5 hours. I would safely say that PJ shows average out to about 2.5 hours for the most part. That's not too damn shabby. And Phish doesn't have anything close to "Blood." Try belting that out and then trying to sing "Reign O'er Me."
  • ragejoeragejoe Agawam Mass Posts: 1,419
    That buffalo show was amazing

    Yeah, they dont hit 3 hrs often... but I think it is very fair to say they hit 2hr 30 min alot... not ALL THE TIME... and i can tell you they never will again in mansfield cause of the city ordinance and curfew... but once you got to Bonaroo on last years tour... most of those shows hit atleast 2hr 30 min other than mansfield...

    Id say anything over 2 hrs is pretty good and normal for a WORLD FAMOUS band... when you hit 2hr 30min and more... your getting a treat in my opinion... especially with Pearl Jam cause I dont even think they know how long the show is gonna be at the beginning of it... and thats why i love them!

    and you cant put a "JAM BAND" in the same category, way different music with a lot less ENERGY and intensity than a PJ show
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  • Kanye EastKanye East Posts: 782
    edited July 2009
    Phish is boring, imo. They drag songs out waaaaay too long. If your down with spinning in circles for 3 hours, then Phish is your band. But if you wanna rock and roll, Pearl Jam is what you're looking for!!
    They definitely do drag songs out way too long sometimes.. I was lucky that my first (and only at this point) Phish show was not too jam-heavy.. also, before you knock it, it's worth going to one - the light show is PHENOMENAL, the musicianship is truly mind-blowing (even if you hate their music - which I'd say I do), and the experience is so much fun. Between throwing beach balls around, to the glowstick war that went on between the lawns and the seats, to watching the drummer take a vacuum cleaner solo, to doing solos on trampolines, to an a Capella version of Hello My Baby (which they screwed up and decided to switch instruments and let the drummer sing for Pink Floyd's Bike), it was a totally enjoyable evening. And by the way - they played for four hours - a perfectly average length Phish set.

    I have seen Phish 2x. Once I was actually a security at a show in Hershey, PA. I was right in front of the stage. It was a cool experience, but they are still boring to me. Maybe it would've been better if I was tripping, lol.
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  • Kanye EastKanye East Posts: 782
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    You try carrying that energy for 2.5 hours. I would safely say that PJ shows average out to about 2.5 hours for the most part. That's not too damn shabby. And Phish doesn't have anything close to "Blood." Try belting that out and then trying to sing "Reign O'er Me."

    Tre has an awful voice.
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