Fan Club Tickets....

norm

pjbugs007 wrote:

I just go home and listen to John Denver:)

with a rocky mountain high

pjbugs007

no doubt!

Cosmo

mrs.smiley wrote:

the problem is not the venue size or 10c It is the high demand Which makes the greedy ticketing agencies even greedier. Ticketbastard, Live Nation , etc allow very little to go to band/fan clubs & some like TB have their own ticket resale venders that get tix right off the top as do many other entities With a band like PJ u can't control demand-they're awesome & there isn't much to do. But start by not paying over face & not buying from greedy resellers-they are not true fans & don't care about true fans only exploiting us to make a buck! sometimes a shut-out is just a shut-out. As spoiled entitled Americans, maybe once in a while we need to just accept this & deal w/it. Life doesn't come w/a fuckin guarantee. Go home & just listen to your boots. Life doesn't end when you miss out on tix & life is too good to waste huge amounts of time bitchin about whatya can't have. I have been shut-out as often as I have been lucky. I am happy to see PJ when I can-when I can't well I have my cd's & PJ's music & more $ in my pocket! You all have some great ideas but reality is there are always gonna be unhappy shut-out people but life goes on!

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I am proud to say that i have never bought a scalped ticket. I guess it stems from my utter disgust of them from the 1970s when we used to camp out at the Forum Box Office for The Who or Led Zeppelin tickets. The scalpers would show up in the morning in vans and a bunch of kids would pile out and get in line. The scalpers would also go down the line and ask how many tickets you were getting... if you said 2 (and the limit was 6) they would offer to pay you if you bought 6 and sold them the 4 for an extra couple of bucks. they would sell them for giant profits later.
And yeah... I get shut out of TicketMaster... and i go to the venue to see what I can get. If I can get in through the front by locating a floating ticket for face value, cool. I even got into that Pearl Jam gig at the Fonda for free... and a Foo Fighter record release party for 20 bucks. I never feed the scalpers because I do not want to be a part of something I despise so much.
if i don't get tickets to the remaining Universal Ampitheater shows... I'll still go up there on the day of the shows to chek it out. If I get in, great. if not... that's okay. I can grab a bite to eat and head down to the Hotel Cafe and catch whoever is playing there. It's not a life or death situation... worse things could happen to me.

Bushleaguer28

mrs.smiley wrote:

Bushleaguer28 wrote:

If so many people are getting shut out of tickets why not play some bigger venues? I mean LA has some big places to play aside from the 6000 or w/e seat Gibson. This isnt a band that should be playing small venues. Small venues are fine every once in a while for a change of place but why not play Staples instead of Gibson? Two nights at staples would accommodate about twelve thousand more fans then 4 nights at Gibson does.

the problem is not the venue size or 10c It is the high demand Which makes the greedy ticketing agencies even greedier. Ticketbastard, Live Nation , etc allow very little to go to band/fan clubs & some like TB have their own ticket resale venders that get tix right off the top as do many other entities With a band like PJ u can't control demand-they're awesome & there isn't much to do. But start by not paying over face & not buying from greedy resellers-they are not true fans & don't care about true fans only exploiting us to make a buck! sometimes a shut-out is just a shut-out. As spoiled entitled Americans, maybe once in a while we need to just accept this & deal w/it. Life doesn't come w/a fuckin guarantee. Go home & just listen to your boots. Life doesn't end when you miss out on tix & life is too good to waste huge amounts of time bitchin about whatya can't have. I have been shut-out as often as I have been lucky. I am happy to see PJ when I can-when I can't well I have my cd's & PJ's music & more $ in my pocket! You all have some great ideas but reality is there are always gonna be unhappy shut-out people but life goes on!

I realize all that but I was just thinking if 10 percent of the venue goes to the fanclub then 10 percent of a 6000 seat Gibson is only about 600 tickets, or 300 fan club members that can get tickets. Thats nothing. Playing larger venues would roughly triple the amount of fan club tickets up for grabs. Staples was just an example, ive never seen a concert there so I will take others word that the sound is bad. There are other large venues in LA - my only PJ show was at the forum and personally the sound there was the worst ive ever heard (back in 06). I have seen two concerts at the Hollywood Bowl and personally they are the best acoustics I have ever heard. Not sure how many seats the Bowl has, but I bet its more then what the Gibson offers. Has PJ ever played the Bowl?

Bushleaguer28

Bushleaguer28 wrote:

mrs.smiley wrote:

Bushleaguer28 wrote:

If so many people are getting shut out of tickets why not play some bigger venues? I mean LA has some big places to play aside from the 6000 or w/e seat Gibson. This isnt a band that should be playing small venues. Small venues are fine every once in a while for a change of place but why not play Staples instead of Gibson? Two nights at staples would accommodate about twelve thousand more fans then 4 nights at Gibson does.

the problem is not the venue size or 10c It is the high demand Which makes the greedy ticketing agencies even greedier. Ticketbastard, Live Nation , etc allow very little to go to band/fan clubs & some like TB have their own ticket resale venders that get tix right off the top as do many other entities With a band like PJ u can't control demand-they're awesome & there isn't much to do. But start by not paying over face & not buying from greedy resellers-they are not true fans & don't care about true fans only exploiting us to make a buck! sometimes a shut-out is just a shut-out. As spoiled entitled Americans, maybe once in a while we need to just accept this & deal w/it. Life doesn't come w/a fuckin guarantee. Go home & just listen to your boots. Life doesn't end when you miss out on tix & life is too good to waste huge amounts of time bitchin about whatya can't have. I have been shut-out as often as I have been lucky. I am happy to see PJ when I can-when I can't well I have my cd's & PJ's music & more $ in my pocket! You all have some great ideas but reality is there are always gonna be unhappy shut-out people but life goes on!

I realize all that but I was just thinking if 10 percent of the venue goes to the fanclub then 10 percent of a 6000 seat Gibson is only about 600 tickets, or 300 fan club members that can get tickets. Thats nothing. Playing larger venues would roughly triple the amount of fan club tickets up for grabs. Staples was just an example, ive never seen a concert there so I will take others word that the sound is bad. There are other large venues in LA - my only PJ show was at the forum and personally the sound there was the worst ive ever heard (back in 06). I have seen two concerts at the Hollywood Bowl and personally they are the best acoustics I have ever heard. Not sure how many seats the Bowl has, but I bet its more then what the Gibson offers. Has PJ ever played the Bowl?

I just looked it uo - Hollywood Bowl seats over 17,000. So ten percent of that is close to 2,000 tickets, which would allow 1000 fan club members entrance. Thats around three times the amount provided by the gibson.

I realize people will still get shut out but more will be able to get tickets. And if 3-4 shows were played at the bowl with a limit of one show per member then you greatly increase the number of us who can get tickets.

TEEJAM11

This topic again O BOY!!!!!!!!!

SOLAT319

JohnDalton wrote:

I feel very badly for the people who run the 10 Club. It has got to be a thankless task.

I don't think they give a rat's ass about not getting thanks.

FP61580

In my opinion, if so many people are unhappy, the ticketing system is not a good one.

aNiMaL

FP61580 wrote:

In my opinion, if so many people are unhappy, the ticketing system is not a good one.

It is about as good as it could get without being able to guarantee everyone tickets. You need to realize that no matter what ticketing system they use, the same amount of people would still be shut out of 10c tickets. Therefore, it is unfair to say that "if so many people are unhappy, the ticketing system is not a good one" because the same amount of people would still be unhappy no matter what the 10c does.

mookieblalock

aNiMaL wrote:

It is about as good as it could get without being able to guarantee everyone tickets. You need to realize that no matter what ticketing system they use, the same amount of people would still be shut out of 10c tickets. Therefore, it is unfair to say that "if so many people are unhappy, the ticketing system is not a good one" because the same amount of people would still be unhappy no matter what the 10c does.

Exactly.

Thank you!

Stryker

No matter half you slice it, the current system is flawed. As mentioned earlier, if they really wanted to do something they would limit the amount of show a 10c member can buy tickets to. As a member that tries to get tickets to as many show as possible, I would be all in favor of limiting the number of show a member can buy tickets to.


Also, they need new/better/more severs.

comatose_253

vierello wrote:

Every ticket in the arena should be available to fan club members

10C can't do this . . . if you book Key Arena you have to use Ticketmaster and Ticketmaster will only let you sell a small percentage of tickets directly to fan club members

vierello wrote:

I don't want to pay for a membership and then have a 10% chance at getting tickets

I recommend you cancel your membership and not renew

vierello wrote:

I want to be guaranteed a ticket to the show I want to go to

How many bong hits have you had today? Wait . . . how old are you (10, 11 or maybe 12)? Go join some other fan club that guarantees tickets to the show you want to go to! I don't think one exists.

You really need to cancel your 10C membership. I think you will be happier.

GTFLYGIRL

aNiMaL wrote:

FP61580 wrote:

In my opinion, if so many people are unhappy, the ticketing system is not a good one.

It is about as good as it could get without being able to guarantee everyone tickets. You need to realize that no matter what ticketing system they use, the same amount of people would still be shut out of 10c tickets. Therefore, it is unfair to say that "if so many people are unhappy, the ticketing system is not a good one" because the same amount of people would still be unhappy no matter what the 10c does.

Exactly... AND ... the OP spoke about people who get tix rubbing it in other peoples faces...

Those would be the people that AREN'T unhappy with the system... and i think there are many of us. Most of us just keep relatively quiet about it.

I got for every show I tried for and it was a bunch... i also... left work early (all those damn doctor appointments!!) and at times paid a babysitter so I could devote my full attention to making sure I have tickets to the shows I want... and I have a crummy little computer that's run through a cheap ass modem. It's luck... but it's also attitude, perseverance and commitment to getting what you want.

Bushleaguer28

GTFLYGIRL wrote:

aNiMaL wrote:

FP61580 wrote:

In my opinion, if so many people are unhappy, the ticketing system is not a good one.

It is about as good as it could get without being able to guarantee everyone tickets. You need to realize that no matter what ticketing system they use, the same amount of people would still be shut out of 10c tickets. Therefore, it is unfair to say that "if so many people are unhappy, the ticketing system is not a good one" because the same amount of people would still be unhappy no matter what the 10c does.

Exactly... AND ... the OP spoke about people who get tix rubbing it in other peoples faces...

Those would be the people that AREN'T unhappy with the system... and i think there are many of us. Most of us just keep relatively quiet about it.

I got for every show I tried for and it was a bunch... i also... left work early (all those damn doctor appointments!!) and at times paid a babysitter so I could devote my full attention to making sure I have tickets to the shows I want... and I have a crummy little computer that's run through a cheap ass modem. It's luck... but it's also attitude, perseverance and commitment to getting what you want.

But mostly luck haha

JOEJOEJOE

I realize all that but I was just thinking if 10 percent of the venue goes to the fanclub then 10 percent of a 6000 seat Gibson is only about 600 tickets, or 300 fan club members that can get tickets. Thats nothing. Playing larger venues would roughly triple the amount of fan club tickets up for grabs. Staples was just an example, ive never seen a concert there so I will take others word that the sound is bad. There are other large venues in LA - my only PJ show was at the forum and personally the sound there was the worst ive ever heard (back in 06). I have seen two concerts at the Hollywood Bowl and personally they are the best acoustics I have ever heard. Not sure how many seats the Bowl has, but I bet its more then what the Gibson offers. Has PJ ever played the Bowl?[/quote]

I just looked it uo - Hollywood Bowl seats over 17,000. So ten percent of that is close to 2,000 tickets, which would allow 1000 fan club members entrance. Thats around three times the amount provided by the gibson.

I realize people will still get shut out but more will be able to get tickets. And if 3-4 shows were played at the bowl with a limit of one show per member then you greatly increase the number of us who can get tickets.[/quote]

PJ is playing a smaller venue to get a buzz going for the new album. There are 1200 10C tickets for each night (as opposed to the normal 10%). PJ isn't popular enough to play 3 or 4 nights at the bowl, so it wouldn't make sense to play multiple nights at a bigger venue simply to accommodate more fan club members.

Bushleaguer28

JOEJOEJOE wrote:

I realize all that but I was just thinking if 10 percent of the venue goes to the fanclub then 10 percent of a 6000 seat Gibson is only about 600 tickets, or 300 fan club members that can get tickets. Thats nothing. Playing larger venues would roughly triple the amount of fan club tickets up for grabs. Staples was just an example, ive never seen a concert there so I will take others word that the sound is bad. There are other large venues in LA - my only PJ show was at the forum and personally the sound there was the worst ive ever heard (back in 06). I have seen two concerts at the Hollywood Bowl and personally they are the best acoustics I have ever heard. Not sure how many seats the Bowl has, but I bet its more then what the Gibson offers. Has PJ ever played the Bowl?

I just looked it uo - Hollywood Bowl seats over 17,000. So ten percent of that is close to 2,000 tickets, which would allow 1000 fan club members entrance. Thats around three times the amount provided by the gibson.

I realize people will still get shut out but more will be able to get tickets. And if 3-4 shows were played at the bowl with a limit of one show per member then you greatly increase the number of us who can get tickets.[/quote]

PJ is playing a smaller venue to get a buzz going for the new album. There are 1200 10C tickets for each night (as opposed to the normal 10%). PJ isn't popular enough to play 3 or 4 nights at the bowl, so it wouldn't make sense to play multiple nights at a bigger venue simply to accommodate more fan club members.[/quote]

I still would like to see them play the Bowl at some point because it is such an awesome place to see a show. I saw Aerosmith and Rush there and neither show was full because its so big. I think PJ would fit just fine there.

vedder_soup

FP61580 wrote:

In my opinion, if so many people are unhappy, the ticketing system is not a good one.

there were no complaints about the west coast ticketing

Jeanwah

FP61580 wrote:

In my opinion, if so many people are unhappy, the ticketing system is not a good one.

Completely agree. If you run a business and your customers all of a sudden are flooding your system with complaints, the best move is to improve the business because it's obviously flawed.

Adding many more shows wouldn't hurt either.

aNiMaL

Jeanwah wrote:

FP61580 wrote:

In my opinion, if so many people are unhappy, the ticketing system is not a good one.

Completely agree. If you run a business and your customers all of a sudden are flooding your system with complaints, the best move is to improve the business because it's obviously flawed.

So, you really think there is a system out there that would make everyone happy with the same amount of tickets available? I mean seriously, before you start spouting your mouth off about a supposed "flawed" system, offer up your best solution that would supposedly "fix" the "problems." I'm all ears.

But until then, maybe you will realize that with the restrictions that have always been in place, this is about as good and fair as it could ever get. And, just because people whine and complain that they didn't get what they wanted and they didn't really understand how it works, that that is not indicative of "something wrong" with the system.

comatose_253

aNiMaL wrote:

Jeanwah wrote:

FP61580 wrote:

In my opinion, if so many people are unhappy, the ticketing system is not a good one.

Completely agree. If you run a business and your customers all of a sudden are flooding your system with complaints, the best move is to improve the business because it's obviously flawed.

So, you really think there is a system out there that would make everyone happy with the same amount of tickets available? I mean seriously, before you start spouting your mouth off about a supposed "flawed" system, offer up your best solution that would supposedly "fix" the "problems." I'm all ears.

But until then, maybe you will realize that with the restrictions that have always been in place, this is about as good and fair as it could ever get. And, just because people whine and complain that they didn't get what they wanted and they didn't really understand how it works, that that is not indicative of "something wrong" with the system.

Exactly!

I'm in the 253 too . . . do you ever frequent Satellite Coffee?