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vierellovierello Posts: 32
edited July 2009 in The Porch
Everyone saying that this system for fan club tickets is ok is flat out wrong. I have been a fan of this band since '91 and in the fan club since '95, and yes I feel that being a member of the fan club entitles me to get tickets before the general public. They really need to rethink the whole system. Every ticket in the arena should be available to fan club members first so that everyone that wants a ticket can get one. I know that is a little unrealistic, but I feel like I am paying for a membership for no reason. I don't want to pay for a membership and then have a 10% chance at getting tickets, I want to be guaranteed a ticket to the show I want to go to, otherwise, what's the point of even being in the club, some cheesy little single that always comes out 4 months late and a couple newsletters a year, give me a break. I could go to e-bay and buy the fan club single for cheaper than a membership, not that I would, but I could. I have now been shut out of four straight shows because of this ridiculous system, it really needs to change. Truthfully, I prefer the postcard system that they used to use over the system they use now. Why should the true fans of the band be put through all this hassle to see them live, either get more fan club tickets, or find a way to better accomodate every one that wants to buy the ones that are available.

Also, if you were lucky enough to get tickets, don't rub it in other peoples faces, yes, we all know you are excited and that's fine, but just leave your excitement at the sign in screen, so the other deserving people that don't get to see their favorite band from the good seats don't have to hear about it all the time.
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  • JohnD.JohnD. Posts: 63
    I feel very badly for the people who run the 10 Club. It has got to be a thankless task. Fact is, there are only a certain number of tickets to go around no matter how they distribute them. To me, they are distributed in the fairest way possible. There are always going to be people who wind up not getting them. When you pay your dues each year no one promises you anything.

    Of course, I got tickets to the Sept 30 Los Angeles show on my first try!!! :lol:
  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,224
    JohnDalton wrote:
    I feel very badly for the people who run the 10 Club. It has got to be a thankless task. Fact is, there are only a certain number of tickets to go around no matter how they distribute them. To me, they are distributed in the fairest way possible. There are always going to be people who wind up not getting them. When you pay your dues each year no one promises you anything.

    Of course, I got tickets to the Sept 30 Los Angeles show on my first try!!! :lol:
    +1. I don't know if the OP knows this, but Ticketmaster puts caps on what percentage of a venue's seats can be set aside for an artist's fan club - roughly 10-20% depending on the venue. This is the system, and it is what it is!
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  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 13,495
    benjs wrote:
    +1. I don't know if the OP knows this, but Ticketmaster puts caps on what percentage of a venue's seats can be set aside for an artist's fan club - roughly 10-20% depending on the venue. This is the system, and it is what it is!
    they fight for every ticket
    Its more like 8-10%
    but since comcast is trying to squeeze every nickle out of the spectrum, it wouldnt surprise me if the number was higher
  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    If they truly wanted to make it fair, and available to everyone with a membership, they'd cap the number of shows you're able to get 10c seats for. Like LA, but rather across the board. That way, everyone would get a shot rather than one guy getting three shows while someone else gets locked out altogether.
  • Gary CarterGary Carter Posts: 14,067
    Jeanwah wrote:
    If they truly wanted to make it fair, and available to everyone with a membership, they'd cap the number of shows you're able to get 10c seats for. Like LA, but rather across the board. That way, everyone would get a shot rather than one guy getting three shows while someone else gets locked out altogether.
    didn't the 10c do that before 03. i think a 3 show limit would be fair.
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  • PJammin'PJammin' Posts: 1,902
    it's your decision to join the ten club and pay the money. before you joined, they lay it all out on the line and say that they do their best to help with tickets. in NO WAY do they say that you are GUARANTEED tickets. and NO, i did not get tickets.
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  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 13,495
    metsfan wrote:
    Jeanwah wrote:
    If they truly wanted to make it fair, and available to everyone with a membership, they'd cap the number of shows you're able to get 10c seats for. Like LA, but rather across the board. That way, everyone would get a shot rather than one guy getting three shows while someone else gets locked out altogether.
    didn't the 10c do that before 03. i think a 3 show limit would be fair.
    is be in favor of a "one set per city" policy-the philly shows should have been limited like LA
    but I love getting 10c tix to more than one show per tour
  • mookeywrenchmookeywrench Posts: 5,954
    out of curiousity vierello, how many times have you seen pearl jam and how many times have you been shut out?
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  • TangerineTangerine Posts: 880
    Seriously, we pay what? a nickel a day to get a newsletter, a free single on vinyl and the chance to get decent seats at a reasonable price (most likely better than what you'd get during public onsale at the same price). I don't think we have it that bad. I think too many people have a sense of entitlement for what they've paid in dues over the years, but break it out by day and you've paid pennies a day for the chance to get a chance at really good seats which I think is more than reasonable (on top of the othe benefits we get). Even if you've been a member since day 1 you've only paid a max of $300 over the course of 15 years (assuming the fan club has been in existence since 94 which I could be wrong, I only joined in 06 so I'm not part of the PJ elite and I assume dues weren't $20 back in the day but I'm using what we pay now as my only reference point). $300 over 15 years automatically entitles you to front row or tickets at all when they have thousands of 10C members and only hundreds of pairs of tickets to distribute? Come on, if you really think about it is that fair?? Think about what you spend on coffee, fast food, cigarettes, beer, any vice in a given month...does that entitle you to preferential treatment/discounts/free stuff/front of the line access from your bad habit of choice??

    I think people just need to think rationally for a minute before they start downing 10C for what they do for us. :roll:
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  • TL2294TL2294 Posts: 4
    I feel for everyone that didn't get tickets, but the postcard system was a nightmare!! Sending in a card with your info and a money order and crossing your fingers that it got to the right place? No thanks!
  • SolarWorldSolarWorld Posts: 1,902
    I got Seattle tickets!!!!!!!!!!!!! To Both Shows!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Ticketing system is fine from my perspective ;)

    Seriously though... Why cant anyone get this through their thick skulls.

    LIMITED TICKETS
  • CP13458CP13458 Posts: 12
    I feel worse for the pearl jam fans who live in Philly and grew up with the spectrum but cant get a ten club ticket. The last events at "their stadium".
  • PearlJamPatriotPearlJamPatriot Posts: 2,426
    Maybe people in a certain radius get a 1st round of tickets sales for a show in their area.Then, once that is over, the rest of tickets go on sale to the rest of the fan club.
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  • Rotten JoeRotten Joe Posts: 32
    TL2294 wrote:
    I feel for everyone that didn't get tickets, but the postcard system was a nightmare!! Sending in a card with your info and a money order and crossing your fingers that it got to the right place? No thanks!
    We used to do that for The Dead in the 80's,what memories
  • CP13458CP13458 Posts: 12
    PearlJamPatriot wrote:
    Maybe people in a certain radius get a 1st round of tickets sales for a show in their area.Then, once that is over, the rest of tickets go on sale to the rest of the fan club.

    I would definitely agree with that on the larger full US tours. Its hard to do with with this because its only a few shows. But seriously, its ashame because its the last event at the spectrum. And also the people who go to every single show and have been to 7,000 of them would cry. :lol: Either that or they would have to get a job...

    totally kidding.
  • ComeToTXComeToTX Austin Posts: 7,912
    i liked when it was one show per tour and i've never not gotten 10c tix. when they did away with that i went from the 2nd row to the 10th too.
    This show, another show, a show here and a show there.
  • vierellovierello Posts: 32
    mookeywrench wrote:
    out of curiousity vierello, how many times have you seen pearl jam and how many times have you been shut out?

    I've seen them 9 times, 6 times with fan club seats, 3 without, and been shut out 5 times. The times I got fan club seats were when the demand wasn't as high and it was much easier, it just seems to me that as the demand rises, the supply should rise as well, I think I learned that in college at some point.
    SolarWorld wrote:
    I got Seattle tickets!!!!!!!!!!!!! To Both Shows!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Ticketing system is fine from my perspective ;)

    Seriously though... Why cant anyone get this through their thick skulls.

    LIMITED TICKETS

    No need to call people names, I realize that there are a limited number of tickets, but it shouldn't be too diffcult to get more, the venue is still making money and I'm sure that TM or comcast tix is also, just seems to me that the people who love the band should have a better chance at the best seats.
  • mookeywrenchmookeywrench Posts: 5,954
    tickets/venues/ticketmaster & live nation concerts are far from perfectly competitive markets.

    so you can throw supply and demand out the window.
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  • pearl spampearl spam Posts: 154
    never had any problems getting ten club tickets so it all seems fair to me. :D
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  • smaksmak Posts: 241
    So nobody who isn't a member of a fan club can get tickets?

    That seems like a disastrous system.

    People complain about ticketmaster fees now, that would just be another $40 or $60 fee to get tickets (assuming PJ plays every 2-3 years)
  • BizzzyBozzzyBizzzyBozzzy San Diego Posts: 388
    Never had any problems getting tickets since I joined a few years ago. If I got shut out I'd be upset but not enough to throw a fit. This is how life works. I think the system is plenty fair. If people want to go to every single show they should be allowed to.
  • South of SeattleSouth of Seattle West Seattle Posts: 10,724
    I've been shut out twice. The Vic and Eddie in Vancouver night 2. It is what it is, sure it would be nice if everyone got tickets. It's not realistic, so there is no point in even wasting the time and bandwidth.
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  • aNiMaLaNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    edited July 2009
    vierello wrote:
    Everyone saying that this system for fan club tickets is ok is flat out wrong. I have been a fan of this band since '91 and in the fan club since '95, and yes I feel that being a member of the fan club entitles me to get tickets before the general public. They really need to rethink the whole system. Every ticket in the arena should be available to fan club members first so that everyone that wants a ticket can get one. I know that is a little unrealistic, but I feel like I am paying for a membership for no reason. I don't want to pay for a membership and then have a 10% chance at getting tickets, I want to be guaranteed a ticket to the show I want to go to, otherwise, what's the point of even being in the club, some cheesy little single that always comes out 4 months late and a couple newsletters a year, give me a break. I could go to e-bay and buy the fan club single for cheaper than a membership, not that I would, but I could. I have now been shut out of four straight shows because of this ridiculous system, it really needs to change. Truthfully, I prefer the postcard system that they used to use over the system they use now. Why should the true fans of the band be put through all this hassle to see them live, either get more fan club tickets, or find a way to better accomodate every one that wants to buy the ones that are available.

    Also, if you were lucky enough to get tickets, don't rub it in other peoples faces, yes, we all know you are excited and that's fine, but just leave your excitement at the sign in screen, so the other deserving people that don't get to see their favorite band from the good seats don't have to hear about it all the time.
    A) They cannot get every ticket to a venue. Only a percentage of tickets.
    B) They have NEVER guaranteed you a ticket to a show. There has ALWAYS been a limited number of tickets that the 10c can sell.
    C) Why should we leave our "excitement" at the door? Shouldn't you have to leave your negativity at the door? My point is; you have no more right to tell us happy people to stop being happy than we have to tell you unhappy people to stop being unhappy.
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  • ZodZod Posts: 10,746
    Ticketmaster has a 10% policy. They limit a band's fan club to only access to 10 percent of the tickets for the venue (usually bad tickets).

    10c got around the rule in the past, but it seems harder for them to do. Its almost impressive they can still get that 10 percent as the closest tickets. Ticketmaster will probably take that from them at one point too.

    And most venues are ticketmaster/live nation, so it would difficult/impossible to book other venues.
  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,634
    vierello wrote:
    I realize that there are a limited number of tickets, but it shouldn't be too diffcult to get more,

    It is. The less TM releases to 10c, the more they can funnel to the legal scalpers. :(

    Note to self: no more posts in these threads. promise. :mrgreen:
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  • jfconnorjrjfconnorjr Posts: 518
    Sometime in the 90's you could only get tickets to one show per tour.
    Which worked out in some odd way. Granted the overall demand was far greater back then.
    However, I have been very blessed with tickets through the 10C but would support limited tickets in some shape or form.
    It is unfortunate that people can't get tickets to 1 or 2 shows if that is all they can go to based on location/income/schedule.

    Rules or No Rules... someone is going to suffer.
  • Philly YonPhilly Yon Posts: 1
    I got one ticket for Philly, for Tuesday and behind the stage, but I have only myself to blame. I didn't even try the fan club, even though I am already a member! I also didn't bother to get a wrist band and go down to the Wachovia Center box office this morning to get in line. I was warned: online (Comcasttix) sucks! I was lucky to get a good single for Eddie at the Tower, so i logged in like 2 minutes to 10! I also tried the local supermarket, they said both shows were sold out. I only got a seat because the DJ on WMMR said there were still some seats left for Tuesday. So, I'm behind the stage!
    Bruce Springsteen always has tickets held back, then released closer to the show. It's kind of weird, because they're like the best seats! I could have gotten a way better ticket for his "last" Spectrum show a half hour before the show then the one I got from getting in line the day they went on sale. Now I know better, as far as Springsteen goes, but Pearl Jam is obviously different. I saw my first rock concerts at the Spectrum, so i really wanted to see PJ there. Anyhow, its really the scalpers and Live Nation/Ticketmaster who have screwed up everything. There was a just an article in the weekly about how Live Nation and Ticketmaster are going to merge, and be ticketing and promoting like every concert.
    Good luck to everybody trying to get seats. It's not like the old days. If I hear anything about seats becoming available, I'll post it here. Springsteen's fan site, Backstreets, has a good ticket (no scalping) exchange, so I think Pearl Jam should get that going too. All the best, Philly Yon
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    From http://www.pearljam.com/content/ten-club-faq

    "HOW DO I GET TICKETS THROUGH THE TEN CLUB?
    When a tour is announced, tickets will be made available to purchase at the Ten Club before they go on-sale to the general public. We will send all eligible members an email with the pre-sale ticket information. We will also make this information available in the NEWS and TOUR section of our site. Policies and conditions vary from tour to tour, so the most accurate information will be posted with a tour announcement.

    We can not guarantee tickets for all fan club members for all shows, with limited restrictions and deadlines, but we do make them available whenever possible.

    International territories can be a little tricky, but we do our best to come up with a solution to accommodate our fan club members worldwide."
    ---
    No one ever guaranteed us tickets for the gigs... they always promised to do the best they can to make tickets available to us as Fan Club Members.
    You must remember what it was like when we got tickets by sending in those cards where we picked one show per tour. Those were never guaranteed either. This was before the InterNet so we never knew who got tickets and who didn't.
    The bands do not have a say about the ticket allotment from the venues... that is negotiated by band management, concert promoters and venue owners.
    And to say we should go back to postcards is similar to saying we should go back to horses and wagons because of gas and pollution.
    We are not entitled or guaranteed anything. We are granted the opportunity to get tickets prior to the public sale... that's it.
    ...
    Solutions? Maybe one show per tour will help... or how about raising the annual fees to $120.00 a year? That will drop the membership to only those of us who could afford it and that would probably guarantee a pair of tickets per show.
    I love this Fan Club... I feel they provide a great service to me for .05 per day. And i have adopted the attitude that if if get in, i get in... if not... oh, well. there ar a lot of people in worse situation in life than me not being able to see a concert. i don't expect anyone else to feel as I do... i'm just sayin', you know?
    But, hey... it works for me.
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  • Bushleaguer28Bushleaguer28 Posts: 776
    If so many people are getting shut out of tickets why not play some bigger venues? I mean LA has some big places to play aside from the 6000 or w/e seat Gibson. This isnt a band that should be playing small venues. Small venues are fine every once in a while for a change of place but why not play Staples instead of Gibson? Two nights at staples would accommodate about twelve thousand more fans then 4 nights at Gibson does.
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    Bushleaguer28 wrote:
    If so many people are getting shut out of tickets why not play some bigger venues? I mean LA has some big places to play aside from the 6000 or w/e seat Gibson. This isnt a band that should be playing small venues. Small venues are fine every once in a while for a change of place but why not play Staples instead of Gibson? Two nights at staples would accommodate about twelve thousand more fans then 4 nights at Gibson does.
    ...
    Probably because Staples Center is a horrible... HORRIBLE place for concerts. Great for basketball and hockey... HORRIBLE for concerts.
    The 'We Will Rock You' chant and 'Rock N' Roll pt. 1' sound great bouncing off the glass of 3 stories of luxury boxes at the sporting events... but, live music sounds like shit echoing off that much glass.
    I love the 4 smaller gig to 2 bigger gigs. We only get to buy for one of four from the fan club... but, who cares? We pair up with other Club members to get 2 of 4 and do what we need to to get the other two. This may result in FOUR great live experiences.
    AND... as we all witnessed... pretty much everyone that wanted a pair of tickets for L.A. GOT A PAIR OF TICKETS FOR L.A. I would say, that is a good model to employ.
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