The point is, 95% of the time 10-C tickets are better than what you could get from Ticketmaster or scalpers, regardless of your member number.
If you don't believe me, check out the slop that's available for crazy money on Ebay and Stubhub.
Not true
I know a 10c member whose number is 350,xxx and for both nights of msg he was way in the back of the floor. I got ticketmaster tickets for both nights. night 1 I got section 338 and night 2 I got section 328.
Well, the back of the floor are considered by TM's computer inventory system (and by most folks) to be better seats than the 300 level at MSG...so while you may have a preference for section 338, the back row of floor 12 is in fact a better seat.
Yea a better seat if you don't wanna see the band and have them look like ants. I don't care what tm says or anyone else says. If you ask 50 people to have the option of sitting in section 328 which is side stage at msg and ya get a good view of the band or sit way in the back of the floor and have the band look like ants., I bet 45 outta those 50 people would take side stage seats. If you aren't within 25 rows of the stage your seats suck on the floor. I'd gladly take side stage or behind the stage everytime with my 10c number.
Ron: I just don't feel like going out tonight
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
I have a shitty 10 Club number so my seats through 10 club will yield about the same results as ticketmaster. I'll never be seated anywhere near the stage so it does not matter. But regardless of where I'm sitting I'm just happy to be there.
I think the issue of bad seats manifested itself in 2003 when 10c said you can go to as many shows as you want. Before that, you had to pick one show per tour. But then, you got really good seats to that one show. It (2003-2006)favors the wealthier as well as the low # people. If someone has the money to go flying around following the band, and a low to mid number, others get pushed back.
I always thought it would be neat if they would say you can pick one show per tour like in 2000, and get really good seats. And for the rest of the shows you attend of that tour, you get a secondary status and get 2003-2006 style seating. Probably difficult to administer though. Obviously there should be a loyalty for long time fans. But also, do we really want to close the door to new fans and turn them off? What if someone who is 18 years old likes Backspacer so much that they become a fan. What if they were never exposed to PJ before. So he/she purchases the back catalog and really loves PJ. This guy gets tagged based on when he's born and never has a chance at a good seat? That's a turnoff, isn't it? I think there should be an effort to foster new blood in the fanbase.
Up here so high I start to shake, Up here so high the sky I scrape, I've no fear but for falling down, So look out below I am falling now, Falling down,...not staying down, Could’ve held me up, rather tear me down, Drown in the river
I think the issue of bad seats manifested itself in 2003 when 10c said you can go to as many shows as you want. Before that, you had to pick one show per tour. But then, you got really good seats to that one show. It (2003-2006)favors the wealthier as well as the low # people. If someone has the money to go flying around following the band, and a low to mid number, others get pushed back.
I always thought it would be neat if they would say you can pick one show per tour like in 2000, and get really good seats. And for the rest of the shows you attend of that tour, you get a secondary status and get 2003-2006 style seating. Probably difficult to administer though. Obviously there should be a loyalty for long time fans. But also, do we really want to close the door to new fans and turn them off? What if someone who is 18 years old likes Backspacer so much that they become a fan. What if they were never exposed to PJ before. So he/she purchases the back catalog and really loves PJ. This guy gets tagged based on when he's born and never has a chance at a good seat? That's a turnoff, isn't it? I think there should be an effort to foster new blood in the fanbase.
I really appreciate what you said. Thank you for being considerate. Being a new member to the club, I'm noticing more and more how hard it is going to be to get good seats. I love this band and their music just as much as the next person! Loyalty should be given to all members of this club because we are all here supporting the same group.
If you ask 50 people to have the option of sitting in section 328 which is side stage at msg and ya get a good view of the band or sit way in the back of the floor and have the band look like ants., I bet 45 outta those 50 people would take side stage seats.
If you call them "side stage," yeah. If you say they're to the side/rear of the stage but in the middle deck, probably not.
Not knocking your personal preference, of course.
"They said ... timing was everything
made him ... want to be everywhere
there's a ... lot to be said for nowhere."
If you ask 50 people to have the option of sitting in section 328 which is side stage at msg and ya get a good view of the band or sit way in the back of the floor and have the band look like ants., I bet 45 outta those 50 people would take side stage seats.
If you call them "side stage," yeah. If you say they're to the side of the stage but in the upper deck, probably not.
Not knocking your personal preference, of course.
that's just for the garden really. Most venues 300's don't feel like 200's as say the garden do. I'm really curious to see how good of wing seats I have with my shitty 10c number.
Ron: I just don't feel like going out tonight
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
I think the issue of bad seats manifested itself in 2003 when 10c said you can go to as many shows as you want. Before that, you had to pick one show per tour. But then, you got really good seats to that one show. It (2003-2006)favors the wealthier as well as the low # people. If someone has the money to go flying around following the band, and a low to mid number, others get pushed back.
I always thought it would be neat if they would say you can pick one show per tour like in 2000, and get really good seats. And for the rest of the shows you attend of that tour, you get a secondary status and get 2003-2006 style seating. Probably difficult to administer though. Obviously there should be a loyalty for long time fans. But also, do we really want to close the door to new fans and turn them off? What if someone who is 18 years old likes Backspacer so much that they become a fan. What if they were never exposed to PJ before. So he/she purchases the back catalog and really loves PJ. This guy gets tagged based on when he's born and never has a chance at a good seat? That's a turnoff, isn't it? I think there should be an effort to foster new blood in the fanbase.
absolutely.
2003 was my first tour, so it's all i know.....but i definitely know what the 10c seating was like in the past. many have brought up this one show best seniorty pick/all rest secondary.... while i too think it's a great idea, logistically, i think it;s a nightmare for a small operation to actually put into practice. i think the 4 row lottery they utilized in 2008 was truly a great happy medium.
i am, or was, one of those people who loved to travel to see pearl jam. ironically, while i have a mediocre 10c #, most of my travels - or at least half - were to places where seniority didn't mean shit in any case, all GA shows (europe). altho verona was seniority seating and i got 4th row center - amazing! tho, due to the nature of the venue.....still faaaaarrrrrr from the stage. that said, i am also not 'wealthy'...i just happen to not have children, had the time and inclination, and sharing with friends, airmiles and such, makes a big difference. if you take a vacation once a year *somewhere*.....you could do the same. it's simply a matter of wanting to or not. ive enjoyed coupling travel with pearl jam. i would love to continue to do so, but life is also about balance....and idk how much more extensive travel i will or will not plan around pj shows, but i love having the option.
Well all this talk about seating sucks for me because I just joined. I was hoping for some real good seats. My birthday is that weekend and I was thinking great seats would be the perfect gift!! It's Pearl Jam so I will take whatever I can get. : )
are you the cute chick or the seaman?
answer correctly and you'll be able to get some great seats from some lonely guy on here
I'm the chick. The sailor is my brother.
i was asking myself this too... but since you are not the sailor... you can have my philly spares... my number is 165XXX
it's largely due to eddie that i liked to jump off of things as a child...
The point is, 95% of the time 10-C tickets are better than what you could get from Ticketmaster or scalpers, regardless of your member number.
If you don't believe me, check out the slop that's available for crazy money on Ebay and Stubhub.
Not true
I know a 10c member whose number is 350,xxx and for both nights of msg he was way in the back of the floor. I got ticketmaster tickets for both nights. night 1 I got section 338 and night 2 I got section 328.
i was in 309 msg 1,and 315 msg 2 both last rows,,and through ebay and stud i got 225 1 row,,and 119 3 row..not always..
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"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
I think the issue of bad seats manifested itself in 2003 when 10c said you can go to as many shows as you want. Before that, you had to pick one show per tour. But then, you got really good seats to that one show. It (2003-2006)favors the wealthier as well as the low # people. If someone has the money to go flying around following the band, and a low to mid number, others get pushed back.
I always thought it would be neat if they would say you can pick one show per tour like in 2000, and get really good seats. And for the rest of the shows you attend of that tour, you get a secondary status and get 2003-2006 style seating. Probably difficult to administer though. Obviously there should be a loyalty for long time fans. But also, do we really want to close the door to new fans and turn them off? What if someone who is 18 years old likes Backspacer so much that they become a fan. What if they were never exposed to PJ before. So he/she purchases the back catalog and really loves PJ. This guy gets tagged based on when he's born and never has a chance at a good seat? That's a turnoff, isn't it? I think there should be an effort to foster new blood in the fanbase.
absolutely.
2003 was my first tour, so it's all i know.....but i definitely know what the 10c seating was like in the past. many have brought up this one show best seniorty pick/all rest secondary.... while i too think it's a great idea, logistically, i think it;s a nightmare for a small operation to actually put into practice. i think the 4 row lottery they utilized in 2008 was truly a great happy medium.
i am, or was, one of those people who loved to travel to see pearl jam. ironically, while i have a mediocre 10c #, most of my travels - or at least half - were to places where seniority didn't mean shit in any case, all GA shows (europe). altho verona was seniority seating and i got 4th row center - amazing! tho, due to the nature of the venue.....still faaaaarrrrrr from the stage. that said, i am also not 'wealthy'...i just happen to not have children, had the time and inclination, and sharing with friends, airmiles and such, makes a big difference. if you take a vacation once a year *somewhere*.....you could do the same. it's simply a matter of wanting to or not. ive enjoyed coupling travel with pearl jam. i would love to continue to do so, but life is also about balance....and idk how much more extensive travel i will or will not plan around pj shows, but i love having the option.
I have a 19 year old son and twins that just turned 5 so I'm up to my ass in alligators. Long story short, anything within a 2 hour drive from Los Angeles is the limit. That's Santa Barbara to San Diego. LA and San Diego are venues where your 10c number in relation to others will reflect your seat assignment in relation to others. Santa Barbara, if they would play a non charity show there, would be tough to get into due to competition but would be pretty good seating. I pray they don't play in sh!t holes like the Hollywood Bowl or the Greek Theatre. Those are logictical cluster f*k's.
Up here so high I start to shake, Up here so high the sky I scrape, I've no fear but for falling down, So look out below I am falling now, Falling down,...not staying down, Could’ve held me up, rather tear me down, Drown in the river
I think the issue of bad seats manifested itself in 2003 when 10c said you can go to as many shows as you want. Before that, you had to pick one show per tour. But then, you got really good seats to that one show. It (2003-2006)favors the wealthier as well as the low # people. If someone has the money to go flying around following the band, and a low to mid number, others get pushed back.
I always thought it would be neat if they would say you can pick one show per tour like in 2000, and get really good seats. And for the rest of the shows you attend of that tour, you get a secondary status and get 2003-2006 style seating. Probably difficult to administer though. Obviously there should be a loyalty for long time fans. But also, do we really want to close the door to new fans and turn them off? What if someone who is 18 years old likes Backspacer so much that they become a fan. What if they were never exposed to PJ before. So he/she purchases the back catalog and really loves PJ. This guy gets tagged based on when he's born and never has a chance at a good seat? That's a turnoff, isn't it? I think there should be an effort to foster new blood in the fanbase.
the fanclub membership base doesn't exist in a vacuum and the band will not remain together/tour together indefinitely. having said that, the band chooses to reward those who have been in the fanclub longer with seats closer to the stage, and that's their call to make. to say the current system somehow rewards members who have more disposable income than others and who choose to spend their disposable income touring behind the band is unfair. we each have different priorities, different schedules, different incomes.
relatively speaking, if someone with a higher number is unhappy with their fanclub seats, he/she doesn't have to renew their membership, it's really that simple - experiencing PJ live shouldn't be about worrying whether one's seats are located in the 1st 15-20 rows on the floor or whether one's seats are located on the wings because "someone has the money to go flying around following the band, and a low to mid number, others get pushed back." 10C/PJ can't satisfy each and every fan or fanclub member, nor do they even want to try, honestly,...
I really appreciate what you said. Thank you for being considerate. Being a new member to the club, I'm noticing more and more how hard it is going to be to get good seats. I love this band and their music just as much as the next person! Loyalty should be given to all members of this club because we are all here supporting the same group.
loyalty is given to ALL fanclub members by way of an opportunity to purchase 10C presale tickets before they go on sale to the general public. can you really question that kind of loyalty? not to mention the loyalty the 10C shows its' long-standing members by way of seniority for tickets. mind you, since you made mention of the fact you're a new member please keep in mind loyalty can't be tied into the "supply vs. demand" argument when it comes to 10C presale tickets since clearly the fanclub membership base keeps growing every day while the band's allocation of tickets remains the same. in my opinion, unless the membership base is capped things are only going to get worse,...
To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."
"Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."
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My brother has a 10c number in the 320xxx's. For Cincinnati's in 06 we were high up, 100s, side stage, Weren't bad seats at all. In Columbia of 2008 we were front row, section 100s, side of the arena. Those were better seats. I'll be interested to see what seats we get for Chicago night 1 with his number. Now for the second night, we are using my number (since he wasn't sure if he could make it) and I'm 420xxx. So, we'll see where the two numbers put us for Chicago I guess.
06/24/06: Cincy
06/18/08: Columbia
08/23/09 & 08/24/2009: Chicago
05/06/2010: Columus
05/07/2010: Indy
05/20/2010 & 05/21/2010: NYC
I don't know if my number is high or not (I suppose it depends on whether I kept the same number since I first joined or if the gap in my membership triggered a new number), perhaps someone can tell me that first. But the bigger question is, are 10c tickets always good? Money is really no object, so if they aren't guaranteed to be good tickets, I'd rather just pay whatever it takes to get the good tickets from ticketmaster or some scalper.
first of all your question is poorly worded. "always"?...obviously no. "good"?...depends on what you think "good" is.
my member number is in the scope of 3XX,XXX (can't really remember honestly) and at my first PJ show where i had 10C tickets i was on the floor in the 26th row. that to me, was "good". the next two shows i had 10C tickets for i was not on the floor but on the first tier stage left. that to me and to a few of the folks around me was a bit disappointing, but we were technically still very close to the stage, just not on the floor. understandable, im member 300 thousand and something.
my first eddie show i had 11th row, my second i had third row center. not sure how the first was selected, but the second was random.
the unthinkable happened for me at hartford 08...i had front row center, thanks to random selection. best concert ever, obviously. because of that i'll always be grateful for my membership, which i think people in this thread are really lacking.
regardless of your member number or where you sit, for 20 dollars a year you get first dibs at tickets and the possibility for great seats at an awesome concert. i'll probably never have front row center again, for any other pearl jam show or for any other band. and sometimes, even if you have good seats, the band isn't always great. i had something like, 20th row at STP...i wasn't really impressed.
but to answer your question: yes, they're always "good".
"If you love someone, set them free. If someone loves you, don't fuck up." -ev
6/29/03 - Montreal, QC 10/1/04 - Reading, PA
10/3/05 - Philadelphia, PA 5/12/06 - Albany, NY
6/27/08 - Hartford, CT (FRONT ROW CENTER!)
8/2/08 - (ev) Boston, MA 6/9/09 - (ev) Albany, NY
8/21/09 - Toronto, ON 5/10/10 - Buffalo, NY
I've got mixed feelings on this..last tour of PJ I was behind the sound board...which sucked big time. But ever since, I've gotten really great seats. At the EV shows in ATL, both nights I was front and near center...ahh the bliss.
Anyway, my number is 184.XXX and I've let my membership lapse by a month or two before and got the same member number. Overall, I'm just thankful 10C gives us the chance for first dibs. It's up to you if you take the chance with ticketmaster, etc. I really just like the idea that I don't give my $ to ticketmaster.
first of all your question is poorly worded. "always"?...obviously no. "good"?...depends on what you think "good" is.
*****
but to answer your question: yes, they're always "good".
1st sentence is everything, isn't it? Depends on what you think "good" is. Maybe somebody might think 35-40 rows back on the floor, and truthfully not being able to see, is "good". But I think those seats were "bad". So I would say 10c seats are a mixture of good and bad. I think that a mixture of good and bad would be a better definition. I would say now that 10c uses the sides instead of filling up the floor, there is much more good than bad. It's all based on your number. With a few exceptions, high numbers consistently get you worse seats than good numbers. One is not forced into using 10c. The original poster has a lot of money. I'm doing well myself. I may just buy myself out of my 10c position for once or twice, use a scalper, sit in front. Why not. If I like it, I may do it again. May even make it a habit.
Up here so high I start to shake, Up here so high the sky I scrape, I've no fear but for falling down, So look out below I am falling now, Falling down,...not staying down, Could’ve held me up, rather tear me down, Drown in the river
I've got mixed feelings on this..last tour of PJ I was behind the sound board...which sucked big time. But ever since, I've gotten really great seats. At the EV shows in ATL, both nights I was front and near center...ahh the bliss.
Anyway, my number is 184.XXX and I've let my membership lapse by a month or two before and got the same member number. Overall, I'm just thankful 10C gives us the chance for first dibs. It's up to you if you take the chance with ticketmaster, etc. I really just like the idea that I don't give my $ to ticketmaster.
Good luck!
You get 90 days to renew your membership if you are past that 90 days they will reset your number which sucks.
I'm 192xxx and I don't think I've ever been more than 20 rows back for a show. Maybe just lucky I guess.
Just curious - when did you join 10c, because your number is lower than mine and it says u joined after me. Cuz my number is in the 200,000's and I joined in 2000 (for the 2nd time; 1st was in 1992. I know....I fuct up not renewing in 1999. :evil: ) Thanks....peace.
Please respond, anyone else as well...does this sound about right?? 200xxx joining in 2000? Thanks!
I don't know if my number is high or not (I suppose it depends on whether I kept the same number since I first joined or if the gap in my membership triggered a new number), perhaps someone can tell me that first. But the bigger question is, are 10c tickets always good? Money is really no object, so if they aren't guaranteed to be good tickets, I'd rather just pay whatever it takes to get the good tickets from ticketmaster or some scalper.
rule # 1
never buy from a scalper
don't u get that?
RULE # 1
People are free to whatever they want with THERE OWN money
DONT U GET THAT YOU HOLIER THEN THOU ELITIST FAN
Ron: I just don't feel like going out tonight
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
I'm 192xxx and I don't think I've ever been more than 20 rows back for a show. Maybe just lucky I guess.
Just curious - when did you join 10c, because your number is lower than mine and it says u joined after me. Cuz my number is in the 200,000's and I joined in 2000 (for the 2nd time; 1st was in 1992. I know....I fuct up not renewing in 1999. :evil: ) Thanks....peace.
Please respond, anyone else as well...does this sound about right?? 200xxx joining in 2000? Thanks!
the 192,XXX number could have been assigned for a merchandise order prior to the member actually joining the fanclub, but the number's membership status would have only activated once a membership was purchased (could have been at a later date),...
To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."
"Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."
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Yea a better seat if you don't wanna see the band and have them look like ants. I don't care what tm says or anyone else says. If you ask 50 people to have the option of sitting in section 328 which is side stage at msg and ya get a good view of the band or sit way in the back of the floor and have the band look like ants., I bet 45 outta those 50 people would take side stage seats. If you aren't within 25 rows of the stage your seats suck on the floor. I'd gladly take side stage or behind the stage everytime with my 10c number.
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
I always thought it would be neat if they would say you can pick one show per tour like in 2000, and get really good seats. And for the rest of the shows you attend of that tour, you get a secondary status and get 2003-2006 style seating. Probably difficult to administer though. Obviously there should be a loyalty for long time fans. But also, do we really want to close the door to new fans and turn them off? What if someone who is 18 years old likes Backspacer so much that they become a fan. What if they were never exposed to PJ before. So he/she purchases the back catalog and really loves PJ. This guy gets tagged based on when he's born and never has a chance at a good seat? That's a turnoff, isn't it? I think there should be an effort to foster new blood in the fanbase.
I really appreciate what you said. Thank you for being considerate. Being a new member to the club, I'm noticing more and more how hard it is going to be to get good seats. I love this band and their music just as much as the next person! Loyalty should be given to all members of this club because we are all here supporting the same group.
If you call them "side stage," yeah. If you say they're to the side/rear of the stage but in the middle deck, probably not.
Not knocking your personal preference, of course.
made him ... want to be everywhere
there's a ... lot to be said for nowhere."
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
absolutely.
2003 was my first tour, so it's all i know.....but i definitely know what the 10c seating was like in the past. many have brought up this one show best seniorty pick/all rest secondary.... while i too think it's a great idea, logistically, i think it;s a nightmare for a small operation to actually put into practice. i think the 4 row lottery they utilized in 2008 was truly a great happy medium.
i am, or was, one of those people who loved to travel to see pearl jam. ironically, while i have a mediocre 10c #, most of my travels - or at least half - were to places where seniority didn't mean shit in any case, all GA shows (europe). altho verona was seniority seating and i got 4th row center - amazing! tho, due to the nature of the venue.....still faaaaarrrrrr from the stage. that said, i am also not 'wealthy'...i just happen to not have children, had the time and inclination, and sharing with friends, airmiles and such, makes a big difference. if you take a vacation once a year *somewhere*.....you could do the same. it's simply a matter of wanting to or not. ive enjoyed coupling travel with pearl jam. i would love to continue to do so, but life is also about balance....and idk how much more extensive travel i will or will not plan around pj shows, but i love having the option.
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i was asking myself this too... but since you are not the sailor... you can have my philly spares... my number is 165XXX
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
I have a 19 year old son and twins that just turned 5 so I'm up to my ass in alligators. Long story short, anything within a 2 hour drive from Los Angeles is the limit. That's Santa Barbara to San Diego. LA and San Diego are venues where your 10c number in relation to others will reflect your seat assignment in relation to others. Santa Barbara, if they would play a non charity show there, would be tough to get into due to competition but would be pretty good seating. I pray they don't play in sh!t holes like the Hollywood Bowl or the Greek Theatre. Those are logictical cluster f*k's.
the fanclub membership base doesn't exist in a vacuum and the band will not remain together/tour together indefinitely. having said that, the band chooses to reward those who have been in the fanclub longer with seats closer to the stage, and that's their call to make. to say the current system somehow rewards members who have more disposable income than others and who choose to spend their disposable income touring behind the band is unfair. we each have different priorities, different schedules, different incomes.
relatively speaking, if someone with a higher number is unhappy with their fanclub seats, he/she doesn't have to renew their membership, it's really that simple - experiencing PJ live shouldn't be about worrying whether one's seats are located in the 1st 15-20 rows on the floor or whether one's seats are located on the wings because "someone has the money to go flying around following the band, and a low to mid number, others get pushed back." 10C/PJ can't satisfy each and every fan or fanclub member, nor do they even want to try, honestly,...
loyalty is given to ALL fanclub members by way of an opportunity to purchase 10C presale tickets before they go on sale to the general public. can you really question that kind of loyalty? not to mention the loyalty the 10C shows its' long-standing members by way of seniority for tickets. mind you, since you made mention of the fact you're a new member please keep in mind loyalty can't be tied into the "supply vs. demand" argument when it comes to 10C presale tickets since clearly the fanclub membership base keeps growing every day while the band's allocation of tickets remains the same. in my opinion, unless the membership base is capped things are only going to get worse,...
"Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."
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06/18/08: Columbia
08/23/09 & 08/24/2009: Chicago
05/06/2010: Columus
05/07/2010: Indy
05/20/2010 & 05/21/2010: NYC
rule # 1
never buy from a scalper
don't u get that?
my member number is in the scope of 3XX,XXX (can't really remember honestly) and at my first PJ show where i had 10C tickets i was on the floor in the 26th row. that to me, was "good". the next two shows i had 10C tickets for i was not on the floor but on the first tier stage left. that to me and to a few of the folks around me was a bit disappointing, but we were technically still very close to the stage, just not on the floor. understandable, im member 300 thousand and something.
my first eddie show i had 11th row, my second i had third row center. not sure how the first was selected, but the second was random.
the unthinkable happened for me at hartford 08...i had front row center, thanks to random selection. best concert ever, obviously. because of that i'll always be grateful for my membership, which i think people in this thread are really lacking.
regardless of your member number or where you sit, for 20 dollars a year you get first dibs at tickets and the possibility for great seats at an awesome concert. i'll probably never have front row center again, for any other pearl jam show or for any other band. and sometimes, even if you have good seats, the band isn't always great. i had something like, 20th row at STP...i wasn't really impressed.
but to answer your question: yes, they're always "good".
6/29/03 - Montreal, QC 10/1/04 - Reading, PA
10/3/05 - Philadelphia, PA 5/12/06 - Albany, NY
6/27/08 - Hartford, CT (FRONT ROW CENTER!)
8/2/08 - (ev) Boston, MA 6/9/09 - (ev) Albany, NY
8/21/09 - Toronto, ON 5/10/10 - Buffalo, NY
Anyway, my number is 184.XXX and I've let my membership lapse by a month or two before and got the same member number. Overall, I'm just thankful 10C gives us the chance for first dibs. It's up to you if you take the chance with ticketmaster, etc. I really just like the idea that I don't give my $ to ticketmaster.
Good luck!
1st sentence is everything, isn't it? Depends on what you think "good" is. Maybe somebody might think 35-40 rows back on the floor, and truthfully not being able to see, is "good". But I think those seats were "bad". So I would say 10c seats are a mixture of good and bad. I think that a mixture of good and bad would be a better definition. I would say now that 10c uses the sides instead of filling up the floor, there is much more good than bad. It's all based on your number. With a few exceptions, high numbers consistently get you worse seats than good numbers. One is not forced into using 10c. The original poster has a lot of money. I'm doing well myself. I may just buy myself out of my 10c position for once or twice, use a scalper, sit in front. Why not. If I like it, I may do it again. May even make it a habit.
1998 - West Palm Beach 1
2000 - West Palm Beach 1&2
2003 - WPB,Tampa,Atlanta,Camden 1&2,MSG 1&2, Boston 3,Hershey Park
2004 - Asheville, Kissimmee
2008 - West Palm Beach,Tampa,Columbia,Virginia Beach, Mansfield 1&2
2010 - Hartford,Boston,Newark, MSG 1&2
2011 - PJ20 1&2, Costa Rica
2013 - Wrigley,Brooklyn 1&2,Seattle
2014 - Denver,Mountain View 1&2
2015 - Bogata, Mexico City
2016 - Ft Lauderdale,Miami,Tampa,NYC 1&2,Telluride,Fenway 1&2,Wrigley 1&2
Right on
You get 90 days to renew your membership if you are past that 90 days they will reset your number which sucks.
Just curious - when did you join 10c, because your number is lower than mine and it says u joined after me. Cuz my number is in the 200,000's and I joined in 2000 (for the 2nd time; 1st was in 1992. I know....I fuct up not renewing in 1999. :evil: ) Thanks....peace.
Please respond, anyone else as well...does this sound about right?? 200xxx joining in 2000? Thanks!
People are free to whatever they want with THERE OWN money
DONT U GET THAT YOU HOLIER THEN THOU ELITIST FAN
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
GA rules.
Seats at a PJ show are a terrible idea. baffling in fact.
the 192,XXX number could have been assigned for a merchandise order prior to the member actually joining the fanclub, but the number's membership status would have only activated once a membership was purchased (could have been at a later date),...
"Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."
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