Are 10c tickets always good?

NothinMan

I don't know if my number is high or not (I suppose it depends on whether I kept the same number since I first joined or if the gap in my membership triggered a new number), perhaps someone can tell me that first. But the bigger question is, are 10c tickets always good? Money is really no object, so if they aren't guaranteed to be good tickets, I'd rather just pay whatever it takes to get the good tickets from ticketmaster or some scalper.

elwayvedder

10C has always taken care of us. If I were you, I wouldnt worry about seat location and just be glad to have an extra opportunity at tix before the public does. I cant imagine having to fight the entire world and not just the members of the 10c fanbase for tix to shows

benjs

OD237001 wrote:

I don't know if my number is high or not (I suppose it depends on whether I kept the same number since I first joined or if the gap in my membership triggered a new number), perhaps someone can tell me that first. But the bigger question is, are 10c tickets always good? Money is really no object, so if they aren't guaranteed to be good tickets, I'd rather just pay whatever it takes to get the good tickets from ticketmaster or some scalper.

First off, if you go to your Membership page you can check what your number is.. what people consider "good" numbers vary, but it's generally 150xxx or lower. As for how to get great seats, almost all great seats go to Ten Club members, which means if you have friends with low numbers, try and see if they need someone to go with. Or, join the club here, and start asking around!

Ryan_WFC

No. They mostly always suck. Don't bother buying any for Philly today.

PillowPants

depends

- what do you consider good?
- what is your number?
- what venue are you talking about?


some people just want to be in the building so that's good for them

check your profile in the goods section... your number is there

and i'd say if philly is the only east coast show... and your number is over 200,000 then you're going to be in the back half of the stadium


if money is no object... then just buy scalper tix

PillowPants

Ryan_WFC wrote:

No. They mostly always suck. Don't bother buying any for Philly today.

haha

reminded me of the video store scene in clerks

"what about these 2 movies??"

Gary Carter

They usually put the higher numbers way in the back of the floor or behind the stage or side stage.

decides2dream

SpaghettiEddie wrote:

depends

- what do you consider good?
- what is your number?
- what venue are you talking about?


some people just want to be in the building so that's good for them

check your profile in the goods section... your number is there

and i'd say if philly is the only east coast show... and your number is over 200,000 then you're going to be in the back half of the stadium

if money is no object... then just buy scalper tix

i will second this opinion. as someone with a mid-200s # and a NYer, i know full well where such a # gets you in this high demand, NE market. however, as long as you don't *expect* some seat within the first 20 rows, overall, i am not disappointed with my seats. i am usually up off the floor, tho definitely further back, but almost always have a pretty damn fine view. no, it's not the same as being up front...which i have done many times GA or with a friend's #...but it still is a GREAT experience!

Ryan_WFC

The point is, 95% of the time 10-C tickets are better than what you could get from Ticketmaster or scalpers, regardless of your member number.

If you don't believe me, check out the slop that's available for crazy money on Ebay and Stubhub.

benjs

Ryan_WFC wrote:

The point is, 95% of the time 10-C tickets are better than what you could get from Ticketmaster or scalpers, regardless of your member number.

If you don't believe me, check out the slop that's available for crazy money on Ebay and Stubhub.

Exactly. Especially this tour - it seems as though 10C has done pretty damn well about reserving only the best for the fans!

Gary Carter

Ryan_WFC wrote:

The point is, 95% of the time 10-C tickets are better than what you could get from Ticketmaster or scalpers, regardless of your member number.

If you don't believe me, check out the slop that's available for crazy money on Ebay and Stubhub.

Not true

I know a 10c member whose number is 350,xxx and for both nights of msg he was way in the back of the floor. I got ticketmaster tickets for both nights. night 1 I got section 338 and night 2 I got section 328.

Ryan_WFC

metsfan wrote:

Ryan_WFC wrote:

The point is, 95% of the time 10-C tickets are better than what you could get from Ticketmaster or scalpers, regardless of your member number.

If you don't believe me, check out the slop that's available for crazy money on Ebay and Stubhub.

Not true

I know a 10c member whose number is 350,xxx and for both nights of msg he was way in the back of the floor. I got ticketmaster tickets for both nights and night 1 I got section 338 and night 2 I got section 328.

First off, I said 95%, meaning there are exceptions.

But second, aren't those sections you sat in pretty high up? Isn't 328 a little behind the stage?

I'd take back of the floor over those sections every day of the week. If you're crafty, you can usually get a lot closer.

ksacco_06

Well all this talk about seating sucks for me because I just joined. I was hoping for some real good seats. My birthday is that weekend and I was thinking great seats would be the perfect gift!! It's Pearl Jam so I will take whatever I can get. : )

PillowPants

metsfan wrote:

They usually put the higher numbers way in the back of the floor or behind the stage or side stage.

what show did they put people behind the stage??

i think they do the first X amount of rows on the floor (30?? 50??)
then put people side stage
then go back to the rest of the floor


i have a 199 xxx number and in boston 06 I was side section 2 sections back from the stage
but a buddy who was 366xxx was back of the floor

2-feign-reluctance

145xxx

Chicago 98' : bought TM tickets.
STL 98' : 10c tix and was 10 rows back on mike's side (didn't know about getting in line early)
KC: 98' : bought TM tickets.

Memphis 00' : TM tix
STL 00' : front row between mike and jeff (waited in long ass cue for tickets. must have got 'best of the block')

STL 2003: 10c tix 15-19 rows back mike's side (again, i didn't wait in 10c line at all, so would have been better)
Champagin 2003: 10c tix 20 odd rows back dead center behind a 7 footer. (didnt' wait in 10c line)
KC 2003: 10c tix front row (was 5-6th in 10c line window, got there at 6am adn waited all fucking day)

STL 2004 VFC: 10c tickets 20 some odd rows on mike's side. had front row but the online ticket retailer for the fox had shitty system and it crashed in the middle of my order. MOTHERFUCKER.

Washington DC 2008: 10c tickets (first time placed on the wings about 5 rows from the 'ice' on stone's side) actually were awesome tix because i could see over everyone's head, a perfectly unobstructed view).

*so, back when it depended on where in the 10c tix line you stood, it paid off the times i chose to sit around and wait all day for it to open up. there have been so many variations over the years. the STL front row was when you could choose like 1 show for 10c tix, i think.

PillowPants

ksacco_06 wrote:

Well all this talk about seating sucks for me because I just joined. I was hoping for some real good seats. My birthday is that weekend and I was thinking great seats would be the perfect gift!! It's Pearl Jam so I will take whatever I can get. : )

are you the cute chick or the seaman?

answer correctly and you'll be able to get some great seats from some lonely guy on here

ksacco_06

SpaghettiEddie wrote:

ksacco_06 wrote:

Well all this talk about seating sucks for me because I just joined. I was hoping for some real good seats. My birthday is that weekend and I was thinking great seats would be the perfect gift!! It's Pearl Jam so I will take whatever I can get. : )

are you the cute chick or the seaman?

answer correctly and you'll be able to get some great seats from some lonely guy on here

I'm the chick. The sailor is my brother.

Jearlpam0925

I'm 192xxx and I don't think I've ever been more than 20 rows back for a show. Maybe just lucky I guess.

icemanap

410xxx (3/4 years old) is my number. Shall I expect nosebleed seats for the London 02? Having said that on Touringfans.net I have the 22nd best seats, but probably not everyone is on that but I am expecting a very small Stone, Eddie, Matt, Jeff and Mike from my vantage point!

If only my girlfriend wasn't stumpy, then we could have stood!

Pegasus

SpaghettiEddie wrote:

and i'd say if philly is the only east coast show... and your number is over 200,000 then you're going to be in the back half of the stadium

Philly is a Stadium?!? I thought the Spectrum was an Arena.

Jearlpam0925

Pegasus wrote:

SpaghettiEddie wrote:

and i'd say if philly is the only east coast show... and your number is over 200,000 then you're going to be in the back half of the stadium

Philly is a Stadium?!? I thought the Spectrum was an Arena.

It's an arena. About 18,000. On the smaller side, and has the nastiest acoustics ever.

BMoore09

I joined in 1999. My number is 189***.... And I've had good seats in the past, in Memphis, Nashville, West Palm Beach..But in Philly or NY I wouldnt expect too much. I would be happy with some side seats. My worst case scenario would be on the floor waaaay back. I hate being on the floor more than 20 or so rows back and not being able to see over people's heads. Unfortunately this has happened to me too many times in the past. My number isnt "great" but its good enough to be on the floor. So I get stuck on the floor in the back. I wish the 10C wouldn't always consider all of the floor to be the best. I'd say after 20 rows, put 10C members on the sides.
But I dont wanna complain..I know i'll have decent seats to a rockin' show. Just wish I wouldve joined a few years sooner.
You would think being in a fanclub for 10 years would get you up front. Not with the 10C though! Why wont people just QUIT the 10C!? Would make things easier on me!

BMoore09

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

Pegasus wrote:

SpaghettiEddie wrote:

and i'd say if philly is the only east coast show... and your number is over 200,000 then you're going to be in the back half of the stadium

Philly is a Stadium?!? I thought the Spectrum was an Arena.

It's an arena. About 18,000. On the smaller side, and has the nastiest acoustics ever.

Does "nastiest" mean like the "best"? Like bad can mean good? Or does nasty mean "bad, like "not good?" :-)

Veddernarian

I am 25x,xxx.

In Irvine, 2003 (Outdoor Arena), I was 1/2 way back and amazed that all of the people in front of me were 10c. The slope allowed me to see however, the band was like midgets and the big screens at the arena helped but sort of made me feel like I was watching TV as opposed to being at a concert.

In San Diego, 2003 (Tuna can arena which seated maybe 16-18,000 people) 10c seats were on the floor only. I was 3/4 of the way back. I was as far back as the lighting and mixing booth. I could not see except for the tops of the band's heads. I took my son who was 12 at the time. He could not see at all. To him, it was like being in a crowded elevator with piped-in PJ music. I tried to lift him up for 30 seconds per song. These were "bad" seats.

In LA, 2006, 10c responded to the rear floor gripes and used the wings (sides) for higher 10c numbers. I was up the side, probably 25 rows up. I was as far back as 10 rows from the stage so it was really a side shot from above. These were "so-so" or "fair" seats, whatever term you want to use.

I am not a person who is satisfied just to be there, even if you cannot see. That's not me. If you think 10c gets you good seats, think again. The sheer number of people dictates the issuance of fair/poor seats all the way to great seats. Dependent on your number.

It is a Caste system. I don't know if you ever studied the Caste system in India but it is like that. Unfortunately, you are stuck with your number for life, and for your life you will always get the seats commensurate with your status or class. I don't know that I will ever get a great seat at a PJ concert.

There are a couple of alternatives... One is to purchase 10c seats and Ticketmaster seats. On the day of the show, when you find out what your 10c seats are, throw out the lesser seats and use the better seats. Or like you say, if money isn't an object then ignore the system and buy your way to having good/great seats. I don't think 10c gets every great seat in the front and I think that somehow, agencies get some pretty close up seats.

Poncier

metsfan wrote:

Ryan_WFC wrote:

The point is, 95% of the time 10-C tickets are better than what you could get from Ticketmaster or scalpers, regardless of your member number.

If you don't believe me, check out the slop that's available for crazy money on Ebay and Stubhub.

Not true

I know a 10c member whose number is 350,xxx and for both nights of msg he was way in the back of the floor. I got ticketmaster tickets for both nights. night 1 I got section 338 and night 2 I got section 328.

Well, the back of the floor are considered by TM's computer inventory system (and by most folks) to be better seats than the 300 level at MSG...so while you may have a preference for section 338, the back row of floor 12 is in fact a better seat.

gonzo

no matter where you sit, 10c seats puts you next to a fanclub member, so hell yes, they are good!

Jearlpam0925

BMoore09 wrote:

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

Pegasus wrote:

Philly is a Stadium?!? I thought the Spectrum was an Arena.

It's an arena. About 18,000. On the smaller side, and has the nastiest acoustics ever.

Does "nastiest" mean like the "best"? Like bad can mean good? Or does nasty mean "bad, like "not good?" :-)

Nasty as in awesome. Listen to the 4/28/03 show and see for yourself. The sound, the crowd, all awesome.

decides2dream

gonzo wrote:

no matter where you sit, 10c seats puts you next to a fanclub member, so hell yes, they are good!

this is true!
being amongst diehards is always great fun!


that said, as to whether your 10c seats are "good" or not depends on many factors...
1. your perspective of what constitutes good
2. what city you see them
3. how many shows in that city
4. are there other shows being played in that same geographic area


i would say WHERE you see them is THE #1 issue to how "good" your seats are, or not. my 10c # has garnered 9th row center in edmonton 2005, and at least mid-level back in the 200 level at MSG 2003. however, i think my 10c tix for MSG 2008 were 'slightly' better....and i've definitely done better in LOTs of other places, and sure too, GA shows getting up front. in europe i think even with seats you'll always do far better than the major markets in the US (tho england might be an exception, tho still overall, better seats i'd think than say NY or boston or philly)....and same thing in oz, far better seats! the farther from the US, particularly the NE, you travel, the "better" your 10c # does, even a lackluster #. my # more than likely would never land me the first 3 rows, no matter where i travel (except those GA shows ) but being in row 9 as opposed to up in the 200 level, big difference. that;s the cath-22 of the NE....lots of shows....lots of 10c members. as most things, there are pro-cons to it all.


bottomline, i always prefer getting 10c seats. i like knowing i am *set*....even if my seats are spectacular. it Is nice to share a better # with someone, but somehow i iusually am the one to purchase and share my crappy #. :P i don't really care. you CAN score awesome fluke seats thru TM, but you have to continually look, chjance it, and yea.....single seats are the best way to score an awesome spot.

100 Pacer

decides2dream wrote:

that said, as to whether your 10c seats are "good" or not depends on many factors...
1. your perspective of what constitutes good
2. what city you see them
3. how many shows in that city
4. are there other shows being played in that same geographic area

you neglected to mention another crucial point:

5. just exactly which other fanclub members with their respective numbers were able to score tickets to said show, thereby determining just how close you are relative to a higher or lower amount of fanclub members ahead of you.

Veddernarian

100 Pacer wrote:

decides2dream wrote:

that said, as to whether your 10c seats are "good" or not depends on many factors...
1. your perspective of what constitutes good
2. what city you see them
3. how many shows in that city
4. are there other shows being played in that same geographic area

you neglected to mention another crucial point:

5. just exactly which other fanclub members with their respective numbers were able to score tickets to said show, thereby determining just how close you are relative to a higher or lower amount of fanclub members ahead of you.

Great point and related to #2. If you don't live or don't attend in a large city, this will work to your advantage. Large cities attract more fly-ins. More people may fly-in to Boston, NY or San Diego as opposed to flying in to Omaha or Oklahoma City. A strategy could be to target a specific market which it is more likely to get a better seat with a relatively poor number. But then you get into life decisions. If this is your entire life, go for it. If you have other priorities, you'll have to weigh the importance of going to such an extreme for this. But it's a bit of a gamble, and out there for one to try.

100 Pacer

Veddernarian wrote:

100 Pacer wrote:

decides2dream wrote:

that said, as to whether your 10c seats are "good" or not depends on many factors...
1. your perspective of what constitutes good
2. what city you see them
3. how many shows in that city
4. are there other shows being played in that same geographic area

you neglected to mention another crucial point:

5. just exactly which other fanclub members with their respective numbers were able to score tickets to said show, thereby determining just how close you are relative to a higher or lower amount of fanclub members ahead of you.

Great point and related to #2. If you don't live or don't attend in a large city, this will work to your advantage. Large cities attract more fly-ins. More people may fly-in to Boston, NY or San Diego as opposed to flying in to Omaha or Oklahoma City. A strategy could be to target a specific market which it is more likely to get a better seat with a relatively poor number. But then you get into life decisions. If this is your entire life, go for it. If you have other priorities, you'll have to weigh the importance of going to such an extreme for this. But it's a bit of a gamble, and out there for one to try.

keep in mind, though, we're all on equal footing in our attempt to try and secure tickets during the 10C presale and because demand for a show at MSG, for example, is so enormous and so many are shut out there's the potential to be bumped either a few rows up (if quite a few lower numbers are shut out) or a few rows back (if quite a few lower numbers purchase tickets),...