Red Sox vs. Phillies. 2009 World Series... Pj play Spectrum

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  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,277
    Solat13 wrote:

    Well, Myers makes what? 15 this year? And he's coming off the books, so adding Halladay would be sort of awash. And I think it's been reported that the Phils wouldn't mind taking on some salary if it's the right caliber of player. They can afford it too this year - no one can tell me otherwise. Seriously, Halladay - a sinker ball pitcher - in The Bank who has a lifetime 3.47 ERA in the AL. Imagine that in the NL...on this team. Hamels and Halladay? 1A & 1A. That, to me, would be the best tandem since Johnson and Schilling. And, I would give up all these prospects for him since you land him for another year - if the rumor of Drabek, Taylor, and Happ is legit then I'm doing that in a heartbeat. Throw in whatever other prospect you want too.

    Myers is at 12 mil this year.

    If the Halladay trade happened, the Phils payroll would be at 112 million without resigning any free agents or signing anyone who is arbitration eligible in the offseason. Only the Yanks who are committed to $166 mil would be higher. (Actually the Cubs are committed to $119) So the Phils would be third. Sorry about the mistake in my previous post.

    Who's arbitration eligible after this year? I'm not that concerned due to mostly a lot of the key players have been locked up in deals - ie Vic, Werth, Rauuuullll, Rollins(who the Phils can opt out on so I would maybe think about using him in a trade? Dare I say it!), Feliz, Utley, Howard, etc.
  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    Solat13 wrote:

    Well, Myers makes what? 15 this year? And he's coming off the books, so adding Halladay would be sort of awash. And I think it's been reported that the Phils wouldn't mind taking on some salary if it's the right caliber of player. They can afford it too this year - no one can tell me otherwise. Seriously, Halladay - a sinker ball pitcher - in The Bank who has a lifetime 3.47 ERA in the AL. Imagine that in the NL...on this team. Hamels and Halladay? 1A & 1A. That, to me, would be the best tandem since Johnson and Schilling. And, I would give up all these prospects for him since you land him for another year - if the rumor of Drabek, Taylor, and Happ is legit then I'm doing that in a heartbeat. Throw in whatever other prospect you want too.

    Myers is at 12 mil this year.

    If the Halladay trade happened, the Phils payroll would be at 112 million without resigning any free agents or signing anyone who is arbitration eligible in the offseason. Only the Yanks who are committed to $166 mil would be higher. (Actually the Cubs are committed to $119) So the Phils would be third. Sorry about the mistake in my previous post.

    Who's arbitration eligible after this year? I'm not that concerned due to mostly a lot of the key players have been locked up in deals - ie Vic, Werth, Rauuuullll, Rollins(who the Phils can opt out on so I would maybe think about using him in a trade? Dare I say it!), Feliz, Utley, Howard, etc.

    Blanton, Victorino and Durbin off the top of my head. Bruntlett too, but who cares about him.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,277
    edited July 2009
    Solat13 wrote:
    Solat13 wrote:
    Myers is at 12 mil this year.

    If the Halladay trade happened, the Phils payroll would be at 112 million without resigning any free agents or signing anyone who is arbitration eligible in the offseason. Only the Yanks who are committed to $166 mil would be higher. (Actually the Cubs are committed to $119) So the Phils would be third. Sorry about the mistake in my previous post.

    Who's arbitration eligible after this year? I'm not that concerned due to mostly a lot of the key players have been locked up in deals - ie Vic, Werth, Rauuuullll, Rollins(who the Phils can opt out on so I would maybe think about using him in a trade? Dare I say it!), Feliz, Utley, Howard, etc.

    Blanton, Victorino and Durbin off the top of my head. Bruntlett too, but who cares about him.

    I thought they signed Vic to a deal?

    EDIT: By the way, as long as they sell out that park they can compete financially.
  • Solat13 wrote:
    where do you get this information?! :shock:

    http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/

    This along with http://baseball-reference.com are the two greatest baseball sites for baseball junkies.
    wow. thanks for that.
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  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996

    I thought they signed Vic to a deal?

    1 year deal to avoid arb this year. He's still waiting his payday and if makes the All Star team and gets another gold glove, he's inline for a significant raise.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Ryan_WFC wrote:
    and on a side note, i was at that instant replay game! the umps wouldnt end a game on an instant replay.. there's no way that would be any good for the game.. at all.

    I hate instant replay, but they need to be consistent about when/whether to use it if it's going to be part of MLB.

    But anyway, my point was we went toe to toe with the Sox in that series, and we've been much more of a September and October kind of team the past two years.

    Losing Myers hurt, and Lidge is a question mark now, but we'll make a big trade or two to improve.

    I also despise replay in all sports...especially baseball.

    and blaming the umps is just plain weak...it's part of sports.

    why are there so many red sox fans all of a sudden anyway? 5 years ago there weren't that many...now they are the dallas cowboys of baseball (except boston has won something during the last 10 years).

    As I've said on the board before...tampa is coming out of the AL
  • Ryan_WFCRyan_WFC Posts: 1,350
    We have Michael Taylor, a right fielder, dominating in Double-A. It wouldn't surprise me if they move Werth or Victorino in the offseason to make room for him.

    Kyle Drabek is another hot prospect knocking on the door -- a hard-throwing righty -- so they might let Blanton walk.

    Good time to be a Phillies fan... 8-)
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    made him ... want to be everywhere
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,952
    As of today, per Ken Rosenthal and MLB Trade Rumors, the Jays are starting to listen to offers for Halladay. It is going to take any teams farm and a CC type contract to get him though. After how much trouble the Padres had trying to trade Peavy I would not hold your breath.

    If the Yanks are playing the same night as a show it looks like I would have to miss a show.
  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Solat13 wrote:

    Meh...I don't see much difference. If anything, we're better offensively with Ibanez than Burrell. Pitching will be sure'd up by then. I'm tellin ya, this is the EXACT same scenario/situation as last year. They're definitely making a trade for pitching after the All-Star break. And, man, if they land Halladay - if there's any real substance to Ricciardi saying what he's saying - then holy shitballs watch out.

    The Phils would be scary with Halladay. But would they add an additional 5 mil to payroll this year and 15 plus next year.

    They already have the 4th highest payroll in baseball (Boston is 6th btw.) And if they add Halladay they would move to 2nd for next year.

    Well, Myers makes what? 15 this year? And he's coming off the books, so adding Halladay would be sort of awash. And I think it's been reported that the Phils wouldn't mind taking on some salary if it's the right caliber of player. They can afford it too this year - no one can tell me otherwise. Seriously, Halladay - a sinker ball pitcher - in The Bank who has a lifetime 3.47 ERA in the AL. Imagine that in the NL...on this team. Hamels and Halladay? 1A & 1A. That, to me, would be the best tandem since Johnson and Schilling. And, I would give up all these prospects for him since you land him for another year - if the rumor of Drabek, Taylor, and Happ is legit then I'm doing that in a heartbeat. Throw in whatever other prospect you want too.

    Myers makes 8 this year dude...you're way off

    give up the farm for halladay and plan the repeat parade

    phils have 32 sellouts this year (in games played so far)...so they can afford to add payroll. it's just a matter of whether or not the faceless ownership groups would sign off on it.
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,952
    Solat13 wrote:
    where do you get this information?! :shock:

    http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/

    This along with http://baseball-reference.com are the two greatest baseball sites for baseball junkies.

    The 2 best baseball sites period! I live on Baseball Reference
  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    The Fixer wrote:

    Myers makes 8 this year dude...you're way off

    give up the farm for halladay and plan the repeat parade

    phils have 32 sellouts this year (in games played so far)...so they can afford to add payroll. it's just a matter of whether or not the faceless ownership groups would sign off on it.

    Brett Myers

    # 3 years/$25.75M (2007-09)

    * re-signed by Philadelphia 2/07 (avoided arbitration, $5.9M-$5M)
    * $0.25M signing bonus
    * 07:$5M, 08:$8.5M, 09:$12M
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,277
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    As of today, per Ken Rosenthal and MLB Trade Rumors, the Jays are starting to listen to offers for Halladay. It is going to take any teams farm and a CC type contract to get him though. After how much trouble the Padres had trying to trade Peavy I would not hold your breath.

    If the Yanks are playing the same night as a show it looks like I would have to miss a show.

    Yeah, the CC deal was pretty much Matt LaPorta(ie Michael Taylor of the Phillies), plus 4 low-level average prospects. And that was just a rental. Halladay would be for an extra year. You're looking at Taylor(5-tool stud), Drabek(probably the Phils' best pitching prospect), and Happ(young, experienced in the majors, and under contract for at least 5 years). To me that's the package to send.
  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Solat13 wrote:

    Well, Myers makes what? 15 this year? And he's coming off the books, so adding Halladay would be sort of awash. And I think it's been reported that the Phils wouldn't mind taking on some salary if it's the right caliber of player. They can afford it too this year - no one can tell me otherwise. Seriously, Halladay - a sinker ball pitcher - in The Bank who has a lifetime 3.47 ERA in the AL. Imagine that in the NL...on this team. Hamels and Halladay? 1A & 1A. That, to me, would be the best tandem since Johnson and Schilling. And, I would give up all these prospects for him since you land him for another year - if the rumor of Drabek, Taylor, and Happ is legit then I'm doing that in a heartbeat. Throw in whatever other prospect you want too.

    Myers is at 12 mil this year.

    If the Halladay trade happened, the Phils payroll would be at 112 million without resigning any free agents or signing anyone who is arbitration eligible in the offseason. Only the Yanks who are committed to $166 mil would be higher. (Actually the Cubs are committed to $119) So the Phils would be third. Sorry about the mistake in my previous post.

    Who's arbitration eligible after this year? I'm not that concerned due to mostly a lot of the key players have been locked up in deals - ie Vic, Werth, Rauuuullll, Rollins(who the Phils can opt out on so I would maybe think about using him in a trade? Dare I say it!), Feliz, Utley, Howard, etc.

    you can tell the casual phils fans to the diehard phils fans by their stance on rollins. He is worth his contract solely based on how solid he is defensively. He will hit. The dumb philly fans need to relax.

    Feliz has a team option for next year. The majority of their team is intact thru 2011.

    They need a bullpen arm, a starter, and a decent bat or two for the bench (coste is not a ML player). They will be there in the end.

    And I agree about atlanta...they get hudson back soon and their pitching is scary good (lowe, hanson, jurrjens, vazquez, hudson)
  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Ryan_WFC wrote:
    We have Michael Taylor, a right fielder, dominating in Double-A. It wouldn't surprise me if they move Werth or Victorino in the offseason to make room for him.

    Kyle Drabek is another hot prospect knocking on the door -- a hard-throwing righty -- so they might let Blanton walk.

    Good time to be a Phillies fan... 8-)

    they need to be careful with drabek...I believe he has already exceeded his most IPs in the minors. I'd put him in the pen for the rest of the year.

    Also have Dominic Brown and Jason Knapp killing it in the minors.
  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,277
    The Fixer wrote:
    Solat13 wrote:
    Myers is at 12 mil this year.

    If the Halladay trade happened, the Phils payroll would be at 112 million without resigning any free agents or signing anyone who is arbitration eligible in the offseason. Only the Yanks who are committed to $166 mil would be higher. (Actually the Cubs are committed to $119) So the Phils would be third. Sorry about the mistake in my previous post.

    Who's arbitration eligible after this year? I'm not that concerned due to mostly a lot of the key players have been locked up in deals - ie Vic, Werth, Rauuuullll, Rollins(who the Phils can opt out on so I would maybe think about using him in a trade? Dare I say it!), Feliz, Utley, Howard, etc.

    you can tell the casual phils fans to the diehard phils fans by their stance on rollins. He is worth his contract solely based on how solid he is defensively. He will hit. The dumb philly fans need to relax.

    Feliz has a team option for next year. The majority of their team is intact thru 2011.

    They need a bullpen arm, a starter, and a decent bat or two for the bench (coste is not a ML player). They will be there in the end.

    And I agree about atlanta...they get hudson back soon and their pitching is scary good (lowe, hanson, jurrjens, vazquez, hudson)

    I'm missing something in the beginning here - are we saying I'm dumb or smart? I feel like Fredo in Godfather 2...."I'M SMAWT!!"
  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Solat13 wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:

    Myers makes 8 this year dude...you're way off

    give up the farm for halladay and plan the repeat parade

    phils have 32 sellouts this year (in games played so far)...so they can afford to add payroll. it's just a matter of whether or not the faceless ownership groups would sign off on it.

    Brett Myers

    # 3 years/$25.75M (2007-09)

    * re-signed by Philadelphia 2/07 (avoided arbitration, $5.9M-$5M)
    * $0.25M signing bonus
    * 07:$5M, 08:$8.5M, 09:$12M

    knew his contract averaged 8 mill per year...didn't realize it was allocated as you posted.

    thanks...regardless, they can afford to take on salary.
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,952
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    As of today, per Ken Rosenthal and MLB Trade Rumors, the Jays are starting to listen to offers for Halladay. It is going to take any teams farm and a CC type contract to get him though. After how much trouble the Padres had trying to trade Peavy I would not hold your breath.

    If the Yanks are playing the same night as a show it looks like I would have to miss a show.

    Yeah, the CC deal was pretty much Matt LaPorta(ie Michael Taylor of the Phillies), plus 4 low-level average prospects. And that was just a rental. Halladay would be for an extra year. You're looking at Taylor(5-tool stud), Drabek(probably the Phils' best pitching prospect), and Happ(young, experienced in the majors, and under contract for at least 5 years). To me that's the package to send.

    I was saying you would have to sign Halladay to a CC type extension in the offseason. I know he has an extra year but you are not going to trade your farm for 1.5 years. You think the Phillies would be willing to give that much up? Seems like a lot to me. 5 tool player, best pitching prospect and a solid young MLB pitcher. I am not as familiar with the Phillies system as I am the Yankees but the Yanks passed on giving up their 2nd and 3rd best pitching prospects and a below average CF for Santana.
  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    you can tell the casual phils fans to the diehard phils fans by their stance on rollins. He is worth his contract solely based on how solid he is defensively. He will hit. The dumb philly fans need to relax.

    Feliz has a team option for next year. The majority of their team is intact thru 2011.

    They need a bullpen arm, a starter, and a decent bat or two for the bench (coste is not a ML player). They will be there in the end.

    And I agree about atlanta...they get hudson back soon and their pitching is scary good (lowe, hanson, jurrjens, vazquez, hudson)[/quote]

    I'm missing something in the beginning here - are we saying I'm dumb or smart? I feel like Fredo in Godfather 2...."I'M SMAWT!!"[/quote]

    wasn't directing that comment towards you...I'm just tired of the philly media/fans bashing rollins. He was in a slump and everyone wants to replace him. He is one of the best defensive SSs in baseball. People need to relax.

    Same idiots want Andy Reid fired...drives me nuts
  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    As of today, per Ken Rosenthal and MLB Trade Rumors, the Jays are starting to listen to offers for Halladay. It is going to take any teams farm and a CC type contract to get him though. After how much trouble the Padres had trying to trade Peavy I would not hold your breath.

    If the Yanks are playing the same night as a show it looks like I would have to miss a show.

    Yeah, the CC deal was pretty much Matt LaPorta(ie Michael Taylor of the Phillies), plus 4 low-level average prospects. And that was just a rental. Halladay would be for an extra year. You're looking at Taylor(5-tool stud), Drabek(probably the Phils' best pitching prospect), and Happ(young, experienced in the majors, and under contract for at least 5 years). To me that's the package to send.

    I was saying you would have to sign Halladay to a CC type extension in the offseason. I know he has an extra year but you are not going to trade your farm for 1.5 years. You think the Phillies would be willing to give that much up? Seems like a lot to me. 5 tool player, best pitching prospect and a solid young MLB pitcher. I am not as familiar with the Phillies system as I am the Yankees but the Yanks passed on giving up their 2nd and 3rd best pitching prospects and a below average CF for Santana.

    No brainer, make that deal in a heartbeat. Look at the phils top 3 prospects from a year ago (carrasco, marson, donald)...all have struggled this year. Halladay is a sure thing...prospects are not. And the core of their team (utley, rollins, hamels, lidge, howard) are all in their primes now.

    If Halladay is on the table (and I don't think he'll be traded) and the phils have a chance to get him...I don't care what minor league talent they give up, they should do it.

    personally I'd give them all of Reading...the team, the stadium, and especially the shithole of a city...for halladay
  • Ryan_WFC wrote:
    Ludicrous.

    We'll be playing the Angels.

    :D

    yeah you'll be playing the Angles in October...on a fucking golf course! :mrgreen:
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,952
    "The wrote:
    No brainer, make that deal in a heartbeat. Look at the phils top 3 prospects from a year ago (carrasco, marson, donald)...all have struggled this year. Halladay is a sure thing...prospects are not. And the core of their team (utley, rollins, hamels, lidge, howard) are all in their primes now.

    If Halladay is on the table (and I don't think he'll be traded) and the phils have a chance to get him...I don't care what minor league talent they give up, they should do it.

    personally I'd give them all of Reading...the team, the stadium, and especially the shithole of a city...for halladay

    I hear you. Halladay has proven his worth year in and year out in the best division in baseball. Seems like the mentality in the Phillies front office has changed a bit as well since Amaro took over.

    Going to be an interesting second half of the season. I personally think the World Series will be Yankees-Phillies and I will be moving back to New York for the week and a half.
  • Cliffy6745 wrote:
    I personally think the World Series will be Yankees-Phillies
    :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:


    (did you know they only allow 20 "laughing faces" per post??)
  • JV130312JV130312 STATE OF LOVE & TRUST Posts: 2,509
    This shit's going down in September/October...Phillies will be playing, but the Red Sox...not so much. ;)
    I Know All The Rules But The Rules Do Not Know Me.
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,952
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    I personally think the World Series will be Yankees-Phillies
    :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:


    (did you know they only allow 20 "laughing faces" per post??)

    Why is that funny? If the Yanks pitching comes together at the right time they have one of the best staffs in baseball. Their starting pitching has been the biggest problem this year and every starter except Joba has been getting better recently. Assuming they allow Wang to fully rehab this time he will be fresh going into the stretch.

    Their lineup is stacked and their bullpen is coming around. They have already expressed interest in Street and if he becomes available that would almost eliminate any questions about the bullpen.

    They have played terribly for 2 stretches this season and are currently only 1 game behind the Red Sox
  • Cliffy6745 wrote:

    Why is that funny? If the Yanks pitching comes together at the right time they have one of the best staffs in baseball. Their starting pitching has been the biggest problem this year and every starter except Joba has been getting better recently. Assuming they allow Wang to fully rehab this time he will be fresh going into the stretch.

    Their lineup is stacked and their bullpen is coming around. They have already expressed interest in Street and if he becomes available that would almost eliminate any questions about the bullpen.

    They have played terribly for 2 stretches this season and are currently only 1 game behind the Red Sox
    there are 2 reasons why the yankees wont make the world series...

    1. A-Rod
    2. Joe Giradi
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  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    I personally think the World Series will be Yankees-Phillies
    :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:


    (did you know they only allow 20 "laughing faces" per post??)

    Why is that funny? If the Yanks pitching comes together at the right time they have one of the best staffs in baseball. Their starting pitching has been the biggest problem this year and every starter except Joba has been getting better recently. Assuming they allow Wang to fully rehab this time he will be fresh going into the stretch.

    Their lineup is stacked and their bullpen is coming around. They have already expressed interest in Street and if he becomes available that would almost eliminate any questions about the bullpen.

    They have played terribly for 2 stretches this season and are currently only 1 game behind the Red Sox

    still a long way to go...my preseason WS pick was LA/TB, so I'm sticking with that. Should be a lot of exciting races in the 2nd half. I love baseball...I think it is by far the best sport
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,952
    Cliffy6745 wrote:

    Why is that funny? If the Yanks pitching comes together at the right time they have one of the best staffs in baseball. Their starting pitching has been the biggest problem this year and every starter except Joba has been getting better recently. Assuming they allow Wang to fully rehab this time he will be fresh going into the stretch.

    Their lineup is stacked and their bullpen is coming around. They have already expressed interest in Street and if he becomes available that would almost eliminate any questions about the bullpen.

    They have played terribly for 2 stretches this season and are currently only 1 game behind the Red Sox
    there are 2 reasons why the yankees wont make the world series...

    1. A-Rod
    2. Joe Giradi

    You may be right on Joe Girardi. I have lost a whole lot of confidence in him this year. He has been god awful at managing the pitching staff and has not handled A-Rod post surgery situation well either.

    We will have to wait and see on A-Rod hitting in the playoffs. I would imagine he comes around this year. He is too good of a player not to at some point.
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,952
    still a long way to go...my preseason WS pick was LA/TB, so I'm sticking with that. Should be a lot of exciting races in the 2nd half. I love baseball...I think it is by far the best sport

    A very long way to go. You may be right on LA but I am not sure about TB. I don't think they can do it again this year. They got very lucky with the health of their starting pitching last year. Baseball is by far the best sport in my opinion
  • Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Why is that funny? If the Yanks pitching comes together at the right time they have one of the best staffs in baseball. Their starting pitching has been the biggest problem this year and every starter except Joba has been getting better recently. Assuming they allow Wang to fully rehab this time he will be fresh going into the stretch.

    Their lineup is stacked and their bullpen is coming around. They have already expressed interest in Street and if he becomes available that would almost eliminate any questions about the bullpen.

    They have played terribly for 2 stretches this season and are currently only 1 game behind the Red Sox

    Boston owns the Yankees this year!!...and the Yankees always have a great lineup/staff, but we all know that doesn't always equal victory.
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,952
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Why is that funny? If the Yanks pitching comes together at the right time they have one of the best staffs in baseball. Their starting pitching has been the biggest problem this year and every starter except Joba has been getting better recently. Assuming they allow Wang to fully rehab this time he will be fresh going into the stretch.

    Their lineup is stacked and their bullpen is coming around. They have already expressed interest in Street and if he becomes available that would almost eliminate any questions about the bullpen.

    They have played terribly for 2 stretches this season and are currently only 1 game behind the Red Sox

    Boston owns the Yankees this year!!...and the Yankees always have a great lineup/staff, but we all know that doesn't always equal victory.

    So far they do own them, no denying that but the Yankees are playing much better ball than when the played the Sox. The fact that the Yankees are only 1 game back and went 0-7 against the Red Sox so far gives me some confidence. Definitely does not always equal victory as we have seen but they have a better starting staff than they have had since 2003 when they went to the Series.
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