Jack White/ThirdMan/THE VAULT

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  • RW8297
    RW8297 Posts: 1,618
    TMR runs their business the way they do it right now from the beggining. They are the best. It has nothing's to do with their sale's numbers. It's the attitude.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,891
    edited August 2017
    RW8297 said:
    TMR runs their business the way they do it right now from the beggining. They are the best. It has nothing's to do with their sale's numbers. It's the attitude.
    Yeah, you're right. Their difference in attitude is palpable. 10C's attitude often comes off like they think they're doing us a favour, and tough shit if we don't like how they do something, while TMR acts like we are valued customers. (don't get me wrong, I still like some of what 10C does.... not hating on them, just stating facts).
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,965
    For whatever reason, I've ordered twice the number of items from 10C than TMR, but have had more "issues" with TMR (not necessarily their fault).  I haven't had any 10C issues and they've always replied fairly promptly.  

    I'm pretty sure that 10C handles FAR more transactions than TMR to be honest.  One anecdotal piece of evidence is that Jack White told a friend (video gremmie, for those that know him) that the TMR/PJ vinyl was by far their highest selling Vault.  And that's obviously because the PJ people came flooding over.  Throw in all of the mystery sales, 10C tickets (huge difference) and I really don't think that TMR sells nearly as much merchandise as PJ.  There's just so much more activity over here than there.  IMO...
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,891
    edited August 2017
    mrussel1 said:
    For whatever reason, I've ordered twice the number of items from 10C than TMR, but have had more "issues" with TMR (not necessarily their fault).  I haven't had any 10C issues and they've always replied fairly promptly.  

    I'm pretty sure that 10C handles FAR more transactions than TMR to be honest.  One anecdotal piece of evidence is that Jack White told a friend (video gremmie, for those that know him) that the TMR/PJ vinyl was by far their highest selling Vault.  And that's obviously because the PJ people came flooding over.  Throw in all of the mystery sales, 10C tickets (huge difference) and I really don't think that TMR sells nearly as much merchandise as PJ.  There's just so much more activity over here than there.  IMO...
    But don't forget that TMR has many different artists on its label and also has The White Stripes factor (who has more monthly listeners on Spotify than PJ does, FWIW), and they sell records for all of them, not just for the Vault series. I think that if TMR is producing enough to justify or afford their own vinyl pressing plant, they probably have more sales than 10C overall, but 10C just has more members than TMR does Vault subscribers, which is all that comment Jack White supposedly made includes. Also, there is a fair bit of merch in TMR's shop; that wouldn't be the case if they didn't have a solid market for it. But it's all just speculation, obviously. (FWIW, I was not including concert ticket sales. I'm thinking of that as a separate thing... it's also something that all bands do, and whether it's a lot of tix or few, I don't see why it should vary too much between businesses if they are using Ticketmaster/Live Nation for the majority of their ticket sales .... I do know that TMR's Vault subscribers are offered an early entry GA lottery for Jack's shows, which is awesome).
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    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,891
    edited August 2017
    Btw, somewhat in context, Jack White had another one of his vault chats today - he just randomly goes into the chat room available to the vault subscribers and chats with them. They tweet it out just before he does it. I think that's really cool.... I wish PJ would do stuff like that more often. That time Jeff did that Twitter chat thing was cool, although it wasn't managed that well - for some reason he or whoever was running it refused to use the hashtag for Jeff's replies, even after people requested they do so, and you couldn't follow the chat properly.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,814
    PJ_Soul said:
    Btw, somewhat in context, Jack White had another one of his vault chats today - he just randomly goes into the chat room available to the vault subscribers and chats with them. They tweet it out just before he does it. I think that's really cool.... I wish PJ would do stuff like that more often. That time Jeff did that Twitter chat thing was cool, although it wasn't managed that well - for some reason he or whoever was running it refused to use the hashtag for Jeff's replies for some reason, even after people requested they do so, and you couldn't follow the chat properly.
    PJ is sooooo removed from their fans it's ridiculous...
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,965
    • PJ_Soul said:
      Btw, somewhat in context, Jack White had another one of his vault chats today - he just randomly goes into the chat room available to the vault subscribers and chats with them. They tweet it out just before he does it. I think that's really cool.... I wish PJ would do stuff like that more often. That time Jeff did that Twitter chat thing was cool, although it wasn't managed that well - for some reason he or whoever was running it refused to use the hashtag for Jeff's replies for some reason, even after people requested they do so, and you couldn't follow the chat properly.
      I looked for a transcript but didn't see one.  Admittedly I'm not on TMR chats often.  Does anyone know what he said about the new album or a tour?
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,177
    I'm assuming the new album will be out around Nov/Dec and its gonna be the next vault. Like Lazaretto.


  • pjsteelerfan
    pjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,905
    Tim Simmons said:
    I'm assuming the new album will be out around Nov/Dec and its gonna be the next vault. Like Lazaretto.


    Then a large tour in 2018
    ...got a mind full of questions and a teacher in my soul...
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,965
    pjsteelerfan said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    I'm assuming the new album will be out around Nov/Dec and its gonna be the next vault. Like Lazaretto.


    Then a large tour in 2018
    Is this a hope or something that you have heard?
  • pjsteelerfan
    pjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,905
    mrussel1 said:
    pjsteelerfan said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    I'm assuming the new album will be out around Nov/Dec and its gonna be the next vault. Like Lazaretto.


    Then a large tour in 2018
    Is this a hope or something that you have heard?
    Just speculation, but the timing of it seems to fit.
    ...got a mind full of questions and a teacher in my soul...
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,182
    ok so you guys know I'm a newbie when it comes to jack white so be patient.
    1.  The white stripes are officially broken up and I have close to a zero percent chance of seeing them live.  True or false?
    2.  The raconteurs were a two album band and are broken up and I have close to a zero percent chance of seeing them live.  True or false?
    3.  Jack White now plays solo and it's the only way I will see him play live.  True or false?

    lol, thanks guys.
    Mike

    by the way I love the acoustic album!!!
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,965
    True - unlikely
    False
    Falsish based on #2.  there's no reason to believe they will never do another Racon record again.  You could always see him with Dead Weather too.
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,182
    mrussel1 said:
    True - unlikely
    False
    Falsish based on #2.  there's no reason to believe they will never do another Racon record again.  You could always see him with Dead Weather too.
    Cool.  Thanks for the info!
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • JK_Livin
    JK_Livin South Jersey Posts: 7,365
    mcgruff10 said:
    ok so you guys know I'm a newbie when it comes to jack white so be patient.
    1.  The white stripes are officially broken up and I have close to a zero percent chance of seeing them live.  True or false?
    2.  The raconteurs were a two album band and are broken up and I have close to a zero percent chance of seeing them live.  True or false?
    3.  Jack White now plays solo and it's the only way I will see him play live.  True or false?

    lol, thanks guys.
    Mike

    by the way I love the acoustic album!!!
    The only thing for certain is that he will never play in Philly again no matter who he's playing with.
    Alright, alright, alright!
    Tom O.
    "I never had any friends later on like the ones I had when I was twelve. Jesus, does anyone?"
    -The Writer
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,891
    JK_Livin said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    ok so you guys know I'm a newbie when it comes to jack white so be patient.
    1.  The white stripes are officially broken up and I have close to a zero percent chance of seeing them live.  True or false?
    2.  The raconteurs were a two album band and are broken up and I have close to a zero percent chance of seeing them live.  True or false?
    3.  Jack White now plays solo and it's the only way I will see him play live.  True or false?

    lol, thanks guys.
    Mike

    by the way I love the acoustic album!!!
    The only thing for certain is that he will never play in Philly again no matter who he's playing with.
    Really? Why's that? Did Philly piss him off?
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,182
    JK_Livin said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    ok so you guys know I'm a newbie when it comes to jack white so be patient.
    1.  The white stripes are officially broken up and I have close to a zero percent chance of seeing them live.  True or false?
    2.  The raconteurs were a two album band and are broken up and I have close to a zero percent chance of seeing them live.  True or false?
    3.  Jack White now plays solo and it's the only way I will see him play live.  True or false?

    lol, thanks guys.
    Mike

    by the way I love the acoustic album!!!
    The only thing for certain is that he will never play in Philly again no matter who he's playing with.
    why what happened in philly?!
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,177
    I do t think anyone really knows. It's all speculation. But he hasn't played there since 2002
  • hurricanezeke
    hurricanezeke Posts: 177
    And remember he plays songs from all the bands at his solo shows..  
    Atlanta 2003
    Columbia 2008
    Charlotte 2013
    Seattle 2013
    Greenville 2016
  • JK_Livin
    JK_Livin South Jersey Posts: 7,365
    Something happened during one of his shows but I've yet to find the reason why.
    Alright, alright, alright!
    Tom O.
    "I never had any friends later on like the ones I had when I was twelve. Jesus, does anyone?"
    -The Writer

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