The *OFFICIAL* Release Pearl Jam Unplugged on DVD/CD Thread

brainofPJ

Happenstance wrote:

Ooooo you'd better add my name too... I loooove **official** releases

did you sign?

HeadlongRush

brainofPJ wrote:

"Neil wouldn't sue us..."

Brain, you're here! Better evening? Maybe you need a little....

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LauraPJ

HeadlongRush wrote:

Claro que si! Siempre! A cada oportunidad! Pero no puedo conjugar bien, y estoy olvidando mas cada dia (falta de practica)! Ahorita, no hay nadie con quien puedo hablar! Pero yo estare en California en una semana (bueno, el domingo proximo), y tengo amigos alla que pueden hablar espanol conmigo.

Pues parece q te las arreglás bastante bien hasta ahora. Cualquier cosa, yo puedo ayudarte también

HeadlongRush

LauraPJ wrote:

Pues parece q te las arreglás bastante bien hasta ahora. Cualquier cosa, yo puedo ayudarte también

Muchas gracias!

LauraPJ

HeadlongRush wrote:

Muchas gracias!

De nada!

brainofPJ

HeadlongRush wrote:

Brain, you're here! Better evening? Maybe you need a little....

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a little better because not so much drink...but then i got a call from home.


man it's been a long day.

you two are speaking in tongues...

LauraPJ

brainofPJ wrote:

you two are speaking in tongues...

That was a little bit of SPANISH

brainofPJ

LauraPJ wrote:

That was a little bit of SPANISH

i know, but i am unlettered in other languages :(

i want to leard italian just for the heck of it but i think it's too late.

LauraPJ

brainofPJ wrote:

i know, but i am unlettered in other languages :(

i want to leard italian just for the heck of it but i think it's too late.

Well... spanish is hard, I know. Italian is easier... al least for us, you know, because spanish and italian are ver similar.
Um... why is too late?

HeadlongRush

brainofPJ wrote:

i know, but i am unlettered in other languages :(

i want to leard italian just for the heck of it but i think it's too late.

It's never too late until you're dead! I've got a few years on you, and I'm working on improving the languages I have learned, as well as having a list of languages I still want to learn. If you want to learn Italian, learn it! Use something like Rosetta Stone, find people who speak it, and just practice. A big part of it is to be willing to look foolish while you're learning - and even after! Kids are great to learn from; they always like to teach you the cuss words first. I say go for it!

brainofPJ

LauraPJ wrote:

Well... spanish is hard, I know. Italian is easier... al least for us, you know, because spanish and italian are ver similar.
Um... why is too late?

yea, my wife had taught me that they are similar.

i just feel it's too late too learn because i'm older now. you know how it is, when you are younger you pick up on things easier and a lot quicker. i mean, i don't just want to learn some phrases, i would like to be able to speak fluently someday, especially since we plan on taking trips to italy.


viva UNPLUGGED!!!

brainofPJ

HeadlongRush wrote:

It's never too late until you're dead! I've got a few years on you, and I'm working on improving the languages I have learned, as well as having a list of languages I still want to learn. If you want to learn Italian, learn it! Use something like Rosetta Stone, find people who speak it, and just practice. A big part of it is to be willing to look foolish while you're learning - and even after! Kids are great to learn from; they always like to teach you the cuss words first. I say go for it!

i thought about Rosetta, briefly. but now it looks like my wife will be taking italian at the community college...so maybe i will go that route

LauraPJ

brainofPJ wrote:

yea, my wife had taught me that they are similar.

i just feel it's too late too learn because i'm older now. you know how it is, when you are younger you pick up on things easier and a lot quicker. i mean, i don't just want to learn some phrases, i would like to be able to speak fluently someday, especially since we plan on taking trips to italy.


viva UNPLUGGED!!!

Older? You're just 26, come on!!! Of course that is easier when you're a kid, but is not late at all! Besides, if you want to speak another lenguage fluently, you better get started. Fluently comes with practice, is not a miracle, and is not going to happens until you decide it. If you really want it, just go for it

HeadlongRush

brainofPJ wrote:

i thought about Rosetta, briefly. but now it looks like my wife will be taking italian at the community college...so maybe i will go that route

Great! The thing is, you have to practice it! When I was in Mexico, Colombia, and Spain, it was easy to be immersed because there were very few around me who spoke English. Same thing when I was in France and Switzerland; I watched the news, didn't spend all my time hanging out with Americans, and I learned!

You're not surrounded by Italian speakers, so you have to create your own "immersion." If you can find someone to speak it with, do it! That means stumbling through stilted conversation, talking "baby talk" almost, you know, expressing yourself with a limited vocabulary. Listening to it is a huge thing, too! Do you have access to any Italian TV or radio stations? Go to Italian webpages. Read, and see what words you recognize. I bet there are newscasts or something you could find online. With the internet, there are SO many ways to get exposure to another language.

Since your wife wants to take it to, you can also practice together. Designate an "Italian night" each week, where you cook Italian food, maybe listen to Italian music, and ONLY SPEAK ITALIAN for that period of time. You'll be amazed how many sentences you can put together, however simple, when you try.

*Whew!* So, whaddya think?

Hmm... wonder how you say UNPLUGGED in Italian.

LauraPJ

HeadlongRush... why do you always appears like off line, despite you're answering all the time? I'm sorry, I know this is kinda weird question, but I'm a curious woman

brainofPJ

LauraPJ wrote:

Older? You're just 26, come on!!! Of course that is easier when you're a kid, but is not late at all! Besides, if you want to speak another lenguage fluently, you better get started. Fluently comes with practice, is not a miracle, and is not going to happens until you decide it. If you really want it, just go for it

i've lived a long life in just 26 years but i know, i'm still young.

HeadlongRush wrote:

Great! The thing is, you have to practice it! When I was in Mexico, Colombia, and Spain, it was easy to be immersed because there were very few around me who spoke English. Same thing when I was in France and Switzerland; I watched the news, didn't spend all my time hanging out with Americans, and I learned!

You're not surrounded by Italian speakers, so you have to create your own "immersion." If you can find someone to speak it with, do it! That means stumbling through stilted conversation, talking "baby talk" almost, you know, expressing yourself with a limited vocabulary. Listening to it is a huge thing, too! Do you have access to any Italian TV or radio stations? Go to Italian webpages. Read, and see what words you recognize. I bet there are newscasts or something you could find online. With the internet, there are SO many ways to get exposure to another language.

Since your wife wants to take it to, you can also practice together. Designate an "Italian night" each week, where you cook Italian food, maybe listen to Italian music, and ONLY SPEAK ITALIAN for that period of time. You'll be amazed how many sentences you can put together, however simple, when you try.

*Whew!* So, whaddya think?

Hmm... wonder how you say UNPLUGGED in Italian.

quick story...one of the main reasons i want to learn italian is because i am pissed that i didn't years ago (or any language for that matter). and i would love to be able to talk to my wife around people about things you normaly wouldn't if they understood you. oh, and i am around so many people that speak other languages regularly. that's how i learned to play guitar...i was kinda dissappointed that i hadn't learned as a child. but what really set me over the edge was walking into a local music store and seeing these little kids playing!!! so i don't always have the best of motivating factors behind the things i do or want to do. man that's horrible...


your advice is along the lines of what i had been thinking would take place between my wife and i, so thank you for that!


hmm, unplugged in italian?

HeadlongRush

brainofPJ wrote:

i've lived a long life in just 26 years but i know, i'm still young.

You know, that made me start thinking of all that had happened in my life by the time I was your age, and...yeah. Wow. Amazing sometimes that we still stand.

brainofPJ wrote:

man that's horrible...
your advice is along the lines of what i had been thinking would take place between my wife and i, so thank you for that!
hmm, unplugged in italian?

Nah, that's not horrible. Got motivated, didn't you? As long as you didn't fly into a jealous rage and start beating on the little kids with their own guitars! :eek:

I can tell you from personal experience, it is very cool to be able to talk to your spouse without others understanding:

Your wife: "I'm bored. This party sucks."
You: "Yeah. Let's tell them that we just remembered you have appendicitis and we should have been in the ER hours ago."
Your wife: "Okay, let's go. Be sure to grab that half-bottle of wine off the sideboard on the way out."
You: "You got it, Hon. Just kinda hunch over, grab your stomach, and groan a little as we leave." *

See? It's great! (This, of course, would have been in my pre-YDWWMPJC days!;))

Hope the advice helps. Again, don't be afraid of looking foolish. If I was too worried about that, I would never post to LauraPJ or PM with Clau_yellowled in Spanish, because I know I make mistakes. But it helps me, because I read their posts, and it reminds me of correct sentence structure, conjugation, little turns of phrase that don't translate directly, etc.

I hope you guys follow through. It could be a great thing.

So, have you figured out UNPLUGGED in Italian yet?

*Please note: The conversation depicted above is entirely fictitious. And if it really ever happened, I ain't tellin'!:D

HeadlongRush

LauraPJ wrote:

HeadlongRush... why do you always appears like off line, despite you're answering all the time? I'm sorry, I know this is kinda weird question, but I'm a curious woman

Ninguna idea!

It shows "Logged in" on my screen. Hmmm. Does it show that under my profile?

Viva la curiosidad!

brainofPJ

HeadlongRush wrote:

You know, that made me start thinking of all that had happened in my life by the time I was your age, and...yeah. Wow. Amazing sometimes that we still stand.

Nah, that's not horrible. Got motivated, didn't you? As long as you didn't fly into a jealous rage and start beating on the little kids with their own guitars! :eek:

I can tell you from personal experience, it is very cool to be able to talk to your spouse without others understanding:

Your wife: "I'm bored. This party sucks."
You: "Yeah. Let's tell them that we just remembered you have appendicitis and we should have been in the ER hours ago."
Your wife: "Okay, let's go. Be sure to grab that half-bottle of wine off the sideboard on the way out."
You: "You got it, Hon. Just kinda hunch over, grab your stomach, and groan a little as we leave." *

See? It's great! (This, of course, would have been in my pre-YDWWMPJC days!;))

Hope the advice helps. Again, don't be afraid of looking foolish. If I was too worried about that, I would never post to LauraPJ or PM with Clau_yellowled in Spanish, because I know I make mistakes. But it helps me, because I read their posts, and it reminds me of correct sentence structure, conjugation, little turns of phrase that don't translate directly, etc.

I hope you guys follow through. It could be a great thing.

So, have you figured out UNPLUGGED in Italian yet?

*Please note: The conversation depicted above is entirely fictitious. And if it really ever happened, I ain't tellin'!:D

she already knows a little italian, she wants to get past learning from a book and emersing herself in the culture, which the first class actually does i guess.
she will follow through definitely, as for me i just need to it.

i like the fictitious story that's what i'm talking about

HeadlongRush

brainofPJ wrote:

she already knows a little italian, she wants to get past learning from a book and emersing herself in the culture, which the first class actually does i guess.
she will follow through definitely, as for me i just need to it.

i like the fictitious story that's what i'm talking about

Sounds like you have a good starting point, with your wife being really motivated and already having learned the basics. Hope you'll keep us posted on your progress. I may bug you about it periodically to see if you're following through, though!
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