new Kings of Leon DVD is excellent

soulsinging · November 2009

Aaron 23 wrote:

soulsinging wrote:

:roll:

becos the record company they had then wasn't pushing them like they are now. and from what i understand, california waiting and kol WERE pretty huge overseas, they just had no backing here.

as to the show, that is so tired. i saw them last halloween and there was not a single person there under 18. it was a packed house and everyone there knew all the words to all the songs. oh yeah, and they had GIRLS there (in slutty halloween costumes ). i'm not going to fault them for releasing an album with a lot of soul and great grooves that appeals to more people than a bunch of former frat boys trying to relive the glory days. maybe you don't like anything that's not cock rock and prefer a venue full of sausage (like any PJ show) to get your testosterone going, but some of us recognize that music doesn't have to be infused with steroids and is just fine when it's delicate, soulful, and heartfelt.

Hmm...you must go to a lot of Country, Miley Cyrus, or boy band shows if you think PJ is a sausage fest.

you must not have ever been to a PJ show if you think it's not a sausage fest

soulsinging · November 2009

jr19 wrote:

are you people hard headed or something. that london show you went to was over a year ago. this OBTN album caught on hardcore the middle of this past summer. so you would not have seen any 15 year olds plus you were in london. completely different crowd and acceptence to kol overseas than in the states. they are great no doubt , but bottom line they were better when they were happy being successful in the Uk and not worrying about being atop the Us charts. the US in general has very poor taste in music. dont like what im saying then look at the top of the charts for sales here in america for general and rock. bands like staind or 3 doors down and the new creed album are the ones dominating the charts.

i see. so the problem isn't the new album itself, they were fine when ti came out. it was only when it became a hit 6 months later and a bunch of teenagers started going to the shows that they became hate-worthy. got that right?

know what you sound like? a hair metal fan whining about grunge circa 1992. hipsters are all that is wrong with the music world. go read pitchfork or something. they'll tell you how right you are that kol was good and now they've sold out, that u2 and coldplay are only for homos, and that the only cool music is that being made by people noone has ever heard of, like the nobody you mentioned earlier completely out of the blue to demonstrate how cool you are to know musicians the rest of us peasants never heard of.

oh, and PJ was at the top of the US charts not long ago. oops.

locked · November 2009

ledvedderman wrote:

"California Waiting" could be released today and be a huge hit. The band has always had catchy rock songs.

man I posted the same thing on my facebook last week.. CW is great.. So is Arizona and King of the Rodeo..

I am a "johnny come lately" to KOL after seeing them on 9/11/09 and now I am hoooked.

Siked for the DVD..

screw all the KOL haters..

Its just like PJ after "Vs" exploded...

More tickets for ME next time they come around..

If you don't like them, dont waste your time posting here...

go post about something positive instead..

jr19 · November 2009

i dont think anyone is "hating" on them. we are just trying to have a grown up discussion about them without being called a frat boy or cock rocker or whatever!!

locked · November 2009

[ :roll:

becos the record company they had then wasn't pushing them like they are now. and from what i understand, california waiting and kol WERE pretty huge overseas, they just had no backing here.

as to the show, that is so tired. i saw them last halloween and there was not a single person there under 18. it was a packed house and everyone there knew all the words to all the songs. oh yeah, and they had GIRLS there (in slutty halloween costumes

). i'm not going to fault them for releasing an album with a lot of soul and great grooves that appeals to more people than a bunch of former frat boys trying to relive the glory days. maybe you don't like anything that's not cock rock and prefer a venue full of sausage (like any PJ show) to get your testosterone going, but some of us recognize that music doesn't have to be infused with steroids and is just fine when it's delicate, soulful, and heartfelt.[/quote]

Post of the year SS!

:idea:

Lifted · November 2009

jr19 wrote:

the US in general has very poor taste in music. dont like what im saying then look at the top of the charts for sales here in america for general and rock. bands like staind or 3 doors down and the new creed album are the ones dominating the charts.

the uk is worse as far as their popular music is concerned. at least the us has an exciting music scene going on right now. tons of great bands in the states that are in the prime of their careers. the uk has radiohead.

soulsinging · November 2009

jr19 wrote:

i dont think anyone is "hating" on them. we are just trying to have a grown up discussion about them without being called a frat boy or cock rocker or whatever!!

"we" are? last i checked, the OP was trying to have a grown up discussion abotu their dvd... without being told that only 15 year olds would ever like their new material by eople that admit they've never seen said dvd and are judging it solely based on how uncool they think the band is :roll:

pearljgirl2010 · November 2009

thanks for posting this--I was interested in the DVD but couldn't make up my mind...you made it up for me and I'm looking forward to checking it out!

I enjoy KOL--i'm entertained when I see them live, and I like that they had a different sound on the last album...I couldn't care less if they sold out or not...I like their music, and I'm the only one I care about!

Gardenparty · November 2009

I don't hate the new album. I don't love it as much as past ones though.

As well I consider putting out an album in an attempt to reach a wider audience more of a sound business move than selling out. It is what they do for a living

However....this is pretty weak:
http://living.oneindia.in/insync/2009/k ... 51109.html

the remix album with Timberlake, Pharrell, Ronson and Timbaland is also very weak

Bottom line though. Who really gives a shit? it is what it is. I just hope the next album is cool to me

Note: I haven't watched the DVD but i bet i know what's on there :P

wozza77 · November 2009

I was there too. It was an excellent gig, imo the age group was older than most gigs I go to, probably a similiar age group to PJ crowds actually.

Great voice, good setlist. On the downside he doesn't particularly own the stage and the encore was poor choice of songs

locked · November 2009

wozza77 wrote:

and the encore was poor choice of songs

compared to say "YL" or RITFW"?

:roll:

CantKeepmedown · November 2009

Color me shocked that a Kings of Leon thread turned into a debate about "selling out" :roll:

Like many, I don't enjoy the new album as much as their previous efforts, but I still think they're a kick ass band. I've seen them live 4 times, and they put on a good show. My only complaint is that they don't change up their sets enough (obviously being spoiled by PJ). They have a great catalog of songs they could play, but generally stick to the same 22-23 songs.

I'm excited to get the DVD. Is there any extra/bonus footage, or is just the show?

nuffingman · November 2009

jr19 wrote:

are you people hard headed or something. that london show you went to was over a year ago. this OBTN album caught on hardcore the middle of this past summer. so you would not have seen any 15 year olds plus you were in london. completely different crowd and acceptence to kol overseas than in the states. they are great no doubt , but bottom line they were better when they were happy being successful in the Uk and not worrying about being atop the Us charts. the US in general has very poor taste in music. dont like what im saying then look at the top of the charts for sales here in america for general and rock. bands like staind or 3 doors down and the new creed album are the ones dominating the charts.

If it's the latest DVD which is Live at the O2 it was from June 2009. The 30th June I believe.
As I said earlier a load of older people.
I also saw them November 08 and the crowd again had a load of over 30s plus believe it or not some over 60s.

DVD Description
Kings of Leon: Live At The O2 London, England, captures, up-close and personal, the band performing in front of 18,000 fans on one of a three-night stint in June 2009 in London.

wozza77 · November 2009

locked wrote:

wozza77 wrote:

and the encore was poor choice of songs

compared to say "YL" or RITFW"?

:roll:

What?

This is about KOL not PJ, plus YL is the last song not the entire encore.
I'm a fan of KOL but imo the choice of encore was poor (not that the individual songs were poor but just didn't feel like a climax), on the other hand (as you mention it) I have never been disappointed with a PJ encore.

Parksy · November 2009

StuffnJunk wrote:

rhcpjam1029 wrote:

meh. kol have sold out for me. if i see this on tv i'll watch it; i don't think i'll buy it though.

"sellout" - a band who writes catchy songs on their fourth album....

give me a break!!!

they sold out.

band that writes catchy tunes is one thing... the new album IS great.

But... then they flood with singles, videos, festivals, interviews... well that's one thing too... we'll call it "not quite selling out.. but getting close"...

NOW THEY'RE RELEASING THEIR OWN CLOTHING LINE....

SOLD!

Parksy · November 2009

DewieCox wrote:

I've never seen a performance of these guys that actually proves they are a good band. I like alotta the tunes, they just come off as really half assed in the stuff I've seen and heard.

agreed... i saw them in Toronto for their first official main act "Arena Show".

very half assed... their music is good... don't get me wrong.. but they are light years away from being a great rock band.

it's a shame too. Because they had all the right stepping stones in front of them.... damn shame.

locked · November 2009

StuffnJunk wrote:

just watched it once, but:

picture quality is amazing, cool camera angles, doesn't cut to a different shot every half second (like a certain band's Italy DVD...) reminds me a lot of the Last Waltz in terms of film quality...maybe also cuz Caleb is rockin a beard like 1970s Eric Clapton

songs sound GREAT....songs from the first album sound SOOOOO much better here....he actually SINGS the words in an understandable way instead of shrieking them like he does on the first album...its like the songs of the first album with his singing voice of the latest album

the band sounds amazing, like they have improved light years since the first album...Red Morning Light in particular kicks ass!!!

and it has Cold Desert on it....what more do you need to know?

Just bought this today and agreee 100%..

I like the "last waltz" type film grade too!

good call..

and California waiting is performed too!

LukinFan · November 2009

CantKeepmedown wrote:

Color me shocked that a Kings of Leon thread turned into a debate about "selling out" :roll:

Like many, I don't enjoy the new album as much as their previous efforts, but I still think they're a kick ass band. I've seen them live 4 times, and they put on a good show. My only complaint is that they don't change up their sets enough (obviously being spoiled by PJ). They have a great catalog of songs they could play, but generally stick to the same 22-23 songs.

I'm excited to get the DVD. Is there any extra/bonus footage, or is just the show?

I agree, I was hoping this thread was going to be actually about the DVD, but yeah, again about them selling out. and I agree, we are all spolied with PJ

locked · November 2009

some of you folks remind me of the musical elitism from the characters in "High Fidelity"...

I scratch my head listening to the amazingly soulful vocals on songs like "Closer" and fail to see what's "sell out"
got to do with it... this band is very talented...amd original in their songs..

I have yet to hear someone say a KOL song is a rip-off of anyone...

think about that..

but if you feel that way... again, please don't get tickets in the future... more for me and my "shallow" American idol watching friends..

:roll:

Yellow Ledbelly · November 2009

I just picked up the dvd last night and though I did not give a proper watch all the way through I was very impressed with it....the sound, the filming and the setlist. Look forward to watching it straight tonight as I enjoy a few tasty beverages.

As for the debate about them selling out:
I am one of those who don't like the album as much as their others, but I still think it is a very good album. I prefer my KoL to be more rockin' and while it seems quite obvious they were going for a more poppy, top 40 radio sound both musically and lyrically, this is a band that released three albums with little to no success in the states so more power to them if they want to make a grab at a wider audience. I was thinking about it watching the dvd last night because I looked in the crowd, saw quite a few young faces who probably never gave them a listen before Sex on Fire hit the radio, but then I realized those folks were singing along with all the songs. They've at least familiarized themselves with the older stuff, so its not all just a passing pop faze maybe. The thing that concerns me about the direction they took on the album is that with greater success they will delve even further into it and move even further away from their rocking roots.
My best friend and constant companion is a female, 24 years old (I'm 32 year old dude) and I had tried to get her to truly listen to them for a while and she never would really give them a chance. She is one of the ones who now loves them, as do at least a couple of her friends, and she has also become a huge fan of their other stuff because of it.
When the album came out I was one of its most harshest critics, but its good and it has opened more of the world to the band, so we'll just have to see where it takes them in the future. It's a lot easier to do whatever the hell you truly want to do as a band once you have gained acceptance by a wide audience. PJ hooked me and after that I wouldn't have cared (well maybe overstating a bit here) if they recorded a polka album...but you see my point maybe.

new Kings of Leon DVD is excellent

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