I think it's all about eliminating the zero point songs. If you have a song and it's not played at all, I think you're screwed. I'm trying to fill the roster according to risk. A couple low risk songs on the one end, those that will definitely get played, but maybe only every 2nd or 3rd night hopefully. On the other end, a couple of high risk songs, that should get played based on history, gut, whatever, but not more than a few times. I bet if you can average 18-20 points per song, you're going to do great.
I would also spearhead the 4th conference if there was enough people. Just need the details of what comes with running the thing.
Amazing concept
You are the 5th reserve towards a 5th conference right now, but two of the other reserves didn't respond to the 4th conference. So, you'll need to go recruit 9 or 10 more people to get to 12. Once we get there, I can run it, or I can show you how I'm doing the fourth- it's pretty simple.
I'd be willing to offer up a second boot to go on the reserve list for the 5th conference. That is unless anyone objects to participating in more than one conference. I'm just digging the draft and want more.
I'd be willing to offer up a second boot to go on the reserve list for the 5th conference. That is unless anyone objects to participating in more than one conference. I'm just digging the draft and want more.
That would kill any playoffs or championship ideas i think (more than one chance). Only one team in the "league"
I created a google doc sheet with song stats from 2011-2013 only - 44 shows totals.
Helpful reference for those so inclined.
There are tags included here, and those won't count on this tour, so be aware.
The "Proj. Pts" column is based on this tour and a total of 25 shows, assuming the song is played in the same % of total shows since 2011.
I wonder how the band members would feel about us virtually gambling on what songs they play?
here is the first 3 rounds in the books for the McCready Conference
Round 1 Round 2 Round 3 Bob Mayo on the Keyboards Bob Mayo Of The Girl Sometimes Interstellar Overdrive JB23237 Immortality Footsteps In Hiding JLWhite1076 God's Dice Who You Are Johnny Guitar Jeff2040 I Got ID Long Road Save You Mayday10 Sleight of Hand Army Reserve Wash SissonP33 Present Tense In My Tree Inside Job FrankieG Oceans Breath Smile EdVed007 I Am Mine Leash Breakerfall On2Legs Fuckin' Up Release Nothing As It Seems Skipwilsonjack Mankind Tremor Christ Last Exit Sparky_Fry Grievance Dissident Crown of thorns JimmyV Indifference Hard to Imagine Love Boat Captain
I'd be willing to offer up a second boot to go on the reserve list for the 5th conference. That is unless anyone objects to participating in more than one conference. I'm just digging the draft and want more.
We'll see what happens. I would really like for the folks in the "reserves" at this time to get to play. If it means a few people double-up, I think it is fine.
Any "Championship" IMO would be cool, but maybe just a matter of pride. That would only come to play if there is a Seattle II and we choose not to count that show in the scoring... or maybe we can figure out some sort of playoff w/the Aussie Big Day Out tour.
I wonder how the band members would feel about us virtually gambling on what songs they play?
here is the first 3 rounds in the books for the McCready Conference
Round 1 Round 2 Round 3 Bob Mayo on the Keyboards Bob Mayo Of The Girl Sometimes Interstellar Overdrive JB23237 Immortality Footsteps In Hiding JLWhite1076 God's Dice Who You Are Johnny Guitar Jeff2040 I Got ID Long Road Save You Mayday10 Sleight of Hand Army Reserve Wash SissonP33 Present Tense In My Tree Inside Job FrankieG Oceans Breath Smile EdVed007 I Am Mine Leash Breakerfall On2Legs Fuckin' Up Release Nothing As It Seems Skipwilsonjack Mankind Tremor Christ Last Exit Sparky_Fry Grievance Dissident Crown of thorns JimmyV Indifference Hard to Imagine Love Boat Captain
Really interesting to see the differences in conferences. Songs in the first round of the Mcready are going in the 4th in Gossard and vice verse...
this is the funniest thing I've done on these boards other than the set lists threads. can't wait to start watching and scoring points.
thanks ryan. this is such a great idea. thinking its going to be a game played on every tour here on out.
No problem. I just kind of got the idea one day while doing dishes. Whether or not the format lends to competitive, exciting twists and turns remains to be seen.
Wouldnt be possible to get nearly this far without the inheritant nerdiness of all involved. It is pretty much on autopilot now. Everyone has been super responsive and cool, and this wouldnt have gotten to this point without certain "technological advances" by people such as taking drafting to email and using Google docs.
I asked my own conference this, but maybe others can help re Google docs:
BJ did grant me access to the google doc, but I've been having some trouble with access anyway. I can access it on my phone no prob (so far), but access on my PC is spotty at best. Way more often than not it tells me that I have to request access again, while at the same time with the same account I can see it on my phone. So wtf?? I have tried closing it on my phone in case having it open in two places had an impact, but it didn't help. I checked my account on the google drive website to see a list of docs that have been shared with me, and this doc is not listed there, but it has been shared and I've viewed it. Anyone have any ideas as to why this might be happening? I have ruled out the ideas that google drive offers as reasons why I don't have access (which were basic, i.e. make sure you're using the right account and that you have actually been granted access). Anyway, not the end of the world - at least I can still do it on my phone.... But I'd rather do it on a PC. Thanks!
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
I asked my own conference this, but maybe others can help re Google docs:
BJ did grant me access to the google doc, but I've been having some trouble with access anyway. I can access it on my phone no prob (so far), but access on my PC is spotty at best. Way more often than not it tells me that I have to request access again, while at the same time with the same account I can see it on my phone. So wtf?? I have tried closing it on my phone in case having it open in two places had an impact, but it didn't help. I checked my account on the google drive website to see a list of docs that have been shared with me, and this doc is not listed there, but it has been shared and I've viewed it. Anyone have any ideas as to why this might be happening? I have ruled out the ideas that google drive offers as reasons why I don't have access (which were basic, i.e. make sure you're using the right account and that you have actually been granted access). Anyway, not the end of the world - at least I can still do it on my phone.... But I'd rather do it on a PC. Thanks!
I have asked a few questions in the ament conference and got some answers. I cant answer your question but here is a bump for possibility someone else can
8/29/00*5/2/03*7/2/03*7/3/03*7/11/03*9/28/04*5/24/06*6/28/08*5/15/10*5/17/10* 10/16/13*10/25/13* 4/28/16*4/28/16*8/5/16*8/7/16 EV 6/15/11 Brad 10/27/02
1st rd:
Come Back
Fatal
Oceans
Breath
In My Tree
Sometimes
Rats
Smile
Grievance
I Got Shit
Mankind
Bee Girl
2nd rd:
Gods Dice
Sad
Cropduster
Bugs
Ament Conference
1st rd
All Night
Love Reign O'er Me
Sometimes
hail,hail
Smile
Brain of J
Dissident
Of the Girl
Breath
Love Boat Captain
Around the Bend
Oceans
2nd round
Footsteps
Force of Nature
In My Tree
Release
Immortality
Nothingman
Light Years
Who you are
Save You
Man Of The Hour
Baba O'Riley
Not For You
3rd round so far
Crown of Thorns
I Am Mine
8/29/00*5/2/03*7/2/03*7/3/03*7/11/03*9/28/04*5/24/06*6/28/08*5/15/10*5/17/10* 10/16/13*10/25/13* 4/28/16*4/28/16*8/5/16*8/7/16 EV 6/15/11 Brad 10/27/02
Question on the last pic in Cameron second round.. They picked Chloe dancer.. On the album it listed as Chloe dancer/crown of thorns! Dies that mean he gets Chloe dancer/crown of thorns or just the piano part "Chloe dancer" that leads into crown of thorns?
I think Chloe Dancer is its own song,"Chloe's just like me, only beautiful ".......then Crown of Thorns comes in with piàno into.Clearly 2songs.Sometimes played together other times just crown of thorns. listed separate on stat tracker.
I think Chloe Dancer is its own song,"Chloe's just like me, only beautiful ".......then Crown of Thorns comes in with piàno into.Clearly 2songs.Sometimes played together other times just crown of thorns. listed separate on stat tracker.
Cameron Conference is moving along pretty well. already into the 3rd round. I'm pretty satisfied with my choices so far. Well maybe should have gone a different route with my first pick but oh well.
8/28/98- Camden, NJ
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly
Cameron Conference is moving along pretty well. already into the 3rd round. I'm pretty satisfied with my choices so far. Well maybe should have gone a different route with my first pick but oh well.
Feeling good so far too - it's going to get harder for me pretty quick I think! ... Dave, I am actually rooting for your first pick!
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
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I would also spearhead the 4th conference if there was enough people. Just need the details of what comes with running the thing.
Amazing concept
Now i guess i have to start a "please play fatal" thread
I think there's a chance they play it. they played it once in '10 :?
8/28/98- Camden, NJ
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly
You are the 5th reserve towards a 5th conference right now, but two of the other reserves didn't respond to the 4th conference. So, you'll need to go recruit 9 or 10 more people to get to 12. Once we get there, I can run it, or I can show you how I'm doing the fourth- it's pretty simple.
All conference winners try to pick a full setlist or something?
That would kill any playoffs or championship ideas i think (more than one chance). Only one team in the "league"
Helpful reference for those so inclined.
There are tags included here, and those won't count on this tour, so be aware.
The "Proj. Pts" column is based on this tour and a total of 25 shows, assuming the song is played in the same % of total shows since 2011.
hopefully, the link works...
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc ... sp=sharing
Someone should pick "Running Back to Saskatoon" i think - 24 pts in the bag
here is the first 3 rounds in the books for the McCready Conference
Round 1 Round 2 Round 3
Bob Mayo on the Keyboards Bob Mayo Of The Girl Sometimes Interstellar Overdrive
JB23237 Immortality Footsteps In Hiding
JLWhite1076 God's Dice Who You Are Johnny Guitar
Jeff2040 I Got ID Long Road Save You
Mayday10 Sleight of Hand Army Reserve Wash
SissonP33 Present Tense In My Tree Inside Job
FrankieG Oceans Breath Smile
EdVed007 I Am Mine Leash Breakerfall
On2Legs Fuckin' Up Release Nothing As It Seems
Skipwilsonjack Mankind Tremor Christ Last Exit
Sparky_Fry Grievance Dissident Crown of thorns
JimmyV Indifference Hard to Imagine Love Boat Captain
We'll see what happens. I would really like for the folks in the "reserves" at this time to get to play. If it means a few people double-up, I think it is fine.
Any "Championship" IMO would be cool, but maybe just a matter of pride. That would only come to play if there is a Seattle II and we choose not to count that show in the scoring... or maybe we can figure out some sort of playoff w/the Aussie Big Day Out tour.
This..
thanks ryan. this is such a great idea. thinking its going to be a game played on every tour here on out.
4/26/03 - pittsburgh
4/28/03 - philly
7/05/03 - camden
7/12/03 - hershey
5/28/06 - camden
5/20/10 - msg
5/21/10 - msg
6/25/11 - upper darby - EV
Wouldnt be possible to get nearly this far without the inheritant nerdiness of all involved. It is pretty much on autopilot now. Everyone has been super responsive and cool, and this wouldnt have gotten to this point without certain "technological advances" by people such as taking drafting to email and using Google docs.
We can always tweak and improve for "next time".
BJ did grant me access to the google doc, but I've been having some trouble with access anyway. I can access it on my phone no prob (so far), but access on my PC is spotty at best. Way more often than not it tells me that I have to request access again, while at the same time with the same account I can see it on my phone. So wtf?? I have tried closing it on my phone in case having it open in two places had an impact, but it didn't help. I checked my account on the google drive website to see a list of docs that have been shared with me, and this doc is not listed there, but it has been shared and I've viewed it. Anyone have any ideas as to why this might be happening? I have ruled out the ideas that google drive offers as reasons why I don't have access (which were basic, i.e. make sure you're using the right account and that you have actually been granted access). Anyway, not the end of the world - at least I can still do it on my phone.... But I'd rather do it on a PC. Thanks!
Thanks!
I have asked a few questions in the ament conference and got some answers. I cant answer your question but here is a bump for possibility someone else can
1st rd:
Come Back
Fatal
Oceans
Breath
In My Tree
Sometimes
Rats
Smile
Grievance
I Got Shit
Mankind
Bee Girl
2nd rd:
Gods Dice
Sad
Cropduster
Bugs
Ament Conference
1st rd
All Night
Love Reign O'er Me
Sometimes
hail,hail
Smile
Brain of J
Dissident
Of the Girl
Breath
Love Boat Captain
Around the Bend
Oceans
2nd round
Footsteps
Force of Nature
In My Tree
Release
Immortality
Nothingman
Light Years
Who you are
Save You
Man Of The Hour
Baba O'Riley
Not For You
3rd round so far
Crown of Thorns
I Am Mine
ok maybe Fatal wasn't a great first pick (hopefully they play it though). I think i know what i'll choose with my next pick.
8/28/98- Camden, NJ
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly
8/28/98- Camden, NJ
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly
This is correct . Separate song.
8/28/98- Camden, NJ
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly