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To Good To be True -- All Access Passes to MSG Show

KL283664KL283664 Posts: 40
edited March 2012 in The Porch
So - I answered a Craigslist ad for ALL ACCESS VIP passed to the 5/21 PJ show at MSG. Said Section 1/Row A and All Access VIP Passes for $300. Sounds too good to be true?

Impulsive as I am, I contact the guy and ask a bunch of questions. Seemed legit. Met with his messenger who delivered actual authentic looking VIP All Access Necklace passes with bar codes, seat assignments, pictures of the PJ band in all their glory.

So I paid the $300.

Then I returned to my office and skepticism got the best of me. I tried using a bar code scanner and guess what: Neither of the bar codes are actually scannable. Unless it is because they are behind plastic???? Also - The bar code pictures themselves (thick and thin black lines) match on both tickets even though the ticket numbers are completely different....

Has anyone had any exerpience with ALL ACCESS passes. Do they scan or type the digits in when entering venue? Am I f'd out of my money?
Thoughts?
1998 - MSG, MSG
2000 - SPAC
2003 - Albany, MSG, MSG
2005 - MSG, Atlantic City
2006 - NJ
2008- MSG, MSG, Eddie
2009 - Eddie, Hawaii
2009 - Chicago, Chicago, Philly
2010 - Upcoming MSG, MSG, Belfast, Dublin
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    why go homewhy go home Posts: 287
    edited May 2010
    mmm, the band are not in the habit of taking fans backstage, if anything it's only friends and family. Also as it's MSG there will be plenty people they know who'll already been given VIP access, think you've been bumped!
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    polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    :(

    i hope you find tickets to the show
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    Lone Drawn MeteorLone Drawn Meteor Vancouver, BC, Canada, Northern Hemishpere, Earth, Sol System, Milky Way Galaxy, Universe Posts: 1,230
    Sounds like a burn. That asshole just made $300 off you and whoever else he sold those $0.0025 (meaning 1/4 of a cent to produce) passes to. Maybe check if the ad is still there. If it is, have a friend contact him, and when the meeting happens make him give you your $300 back. I'm not endorsing vigilante-ism. I'm endorsing kicking this guy's ass and getting your money back! :D

    Good luck, friend.

    EDIT: If it is legitimate, 10c or the venue should know. Ask 'em.
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    neilybabes86neilybabes86 Posts: 16,057
    wow this takes the cake


    dude you need some tickets
    i post on the board of a band that doesn't exsist anymore .......i need my head examined.......
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    Vedder_Girl77Vedder_Girl77 Posts: 4,335
    Where's the Hoff when you need him? He knows everything about MSG.
    8/29/00, 7/3/03, 5/24/06,6/28/08 & 6/30/08, 10/9/09,10/28/09, 10/30/09 & 10/31/09, 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10 & 5/21/10, 10/23/10 & 10/24/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11, 9/11/11, 9/12/11, 9/23/11, 9/22/12, 9/30/12, 7/16/13, 7/19/13
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    LloydXmasLloydXmas Posts: 7,539
    Craigslist Is 95 percent scams.
    That's a shame what happened. Hope you catch a break
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    drsluggodrsluggo Posts: 4,742
    Its probalby a scam - you should try getting a police report going as soon as you can so you have a chance of getting you're $$ back.

    There were listings for this a while back too. Since floor seats are going for well over $300 on stubhub, etc... theres no way anyone would sell backstage passes plus front row seats for $300. :(
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    ECMECM Posts: 1,687
    ouch... good luck trying to get your $300 back
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    CJMST3KCJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    KL283664 wrote:
    So - I answered a Craigslist ad for ALL ACCESS VIP passed to the 5/21 PJ show at MSG. Said Section 1/Row A and All Access VIP Passes for $300. Sounds too good to be true?

    Impulsive as I am, I contact the guy and ask a bunch of questions. Seemed legit. Met with his messenger who delivered actual authentic looking VIP All Access Necklace passes with bar codes, seat assignments, pictures of the PJ band in all their glory.

    So I paid the $300.

    Then I returned to my office and skepticism got the best of me. I tried using a bar code scanner and guess what: Neither of the bar codes are actually scannable. Unless it is because they are behind plastic???? Also - The bar code pictures themselves (thick and thin black lines) match on both tickets even though the ticket numbers are completely different....

    Has anyone had any exerpience with ALL ACCESS passes. Do they scan or type the digits in when entering venue? Am I f'd out of my money?
    Thoughts?


    :shock: :shock: :shock:



    Someone posted this same auction from Craigslist about a month ago. I replied to that, but I was told I was "gloating" and being "smug" for mentioning my experience in this field in threads like these.

    Here's my thoughts on this same item: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=128517

    At the risk of seeming "smug", since I have extensive experience in this area (up until 2000) hopefully I can give some insight.

    Backstage passes come in two typical categories. Stickies and Laminates.

    -Stickies are fabric stickers, and usually given to stage-hands and local crew.
    -Laminates are usually for tour personnel

    I have about 300 backstage passes from working concerts in arenas and theaters in the NYC area. None of them use barcodes. Granted, I stopped working shows in 2000... but even considering that, I believe no one is using barcodes even currently. In 2008 I was backstage for PJ at MSG, and my old friend was doing security at their dressing room corridor... and they had no scanner. Only thing different was a bomb-sniffing-dog, but that's about it.

    Can you PM me a good image of the front and back? I'll let you know if I think it's legit.


    "Also - The bar code pictures themselves (thick and thin black lines) match on both tickets even though the ticket numbers are completely different...." Yeah, that's not good at all...
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    *Jones Beach 8/23/00 *Jones Beach 8/24/00 *Jones Beach 8/25/00
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    KL283664KL283664 Posts: 40
    I will send you a photo. Seems I am F'd. Will try to reach back out to the guy and / or his messenger to get my $$ back. But I am sure I will be Shit out of luck...
    1998 - MSG, MSG
    2000 - SPAC
    2003 - Albany, MSG, MSG
    2005 - MSG, Atlantic City
    2006 - NJ
    2008- MSG, MSG, Eddie
    2009 - Eddie, Hawaii
    2009 - Chicago, Chicago, Philly
    2010 - Upcoming MSG, MSG, Belfast, Dublin
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    CJMST3KCJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    KL283664 wrote:
    I will send you a photo. Seems I am F'd. Will try to reach back out to the guy and / or his messenger to get my $$ back. But I am sure I will be Shit out of luck...

    WAIT! Don't contact him yet.... (typing)


    At the moment, he has no idea you are unhappy. Until the event happens, he'll assume you know nothing.

    Firstly - If you paid him via paypal with a CREDIT CARD, then the CC should protect you. I've been scammed on ebay and on this forum a bunch of times, and since I only pay with my CC, I have not once lost money because their protections are that good. How did you pay?

    IF you're going to go after him, why not email him back and say "my friend now wants the same package... do you have another for the other MSG show?" He'll of course say "yes" and that will give you the opportunity to meet with them in person again, for you to handle things personally. If you let them know you are on to them, then there's no way you'll find them.

    ...but it boils down to how you paid...
    ADD 5,200 to the post count you see, thank you. :)
    *NYC 9/28/96 *NYC 9/29/96 *NJ 9/8/98 (front row "may i play drums with you")
    *MSG 9/10/98 (backstage) *MSG 9/11/98 (backstage)
    *Jones Beach 8/23/00 *Jones Beach 8/24/00 *Jones Beach 8/25/00
    *Mansfield 8/29/00 *Mansfield 8/30/00 *Nassau 4/30/03 *Nissan VA 7/1/03
    *Borgata 10/1/05 *Camden 5/27/06 *Camden 5/28/06 *DC 5/30/06
    *VA Beach 6/17/08 *DC 6/22/08 *MSG 6/24/08 (backstage) *MSG 6/25/08
    *EV DC 8/17/08 *EV Baltimore 6/15/09 *Philly 10/31/09
    *Bristow VA 5/13/10 *MSG 5/20/10 *MSG 5/21/10
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    KL283664KL283664 Posts: 40
    Cash... But I like your idea about contacting him for additional tickets. Let you know how it goes.
    1998 - MSG, MSG
    2000 - SPAC
    2003 - Albany, MSG, MSG
    2005 - MSG, Atlantic City
    2006 - NJ
    2008- MSG, MSG, Eddie
    2009 - Eddie, Hawaii
    2009 - Chicago, Chicago, Philly
    2010 - Upcoming MSG, MSG, Belfast, Dublin
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    MisterEtake2MisterEtake2 Posts: 372
    KL283664 wrote:
    I will send you a photo. Seems I am F'd. Will try to reach back out to the guy and / or his messenger to get my $$ back. But I am sure I will be Shit out of luck...

    If I were you, I would keep doing Craig's list searches for All Access Passes since I'm sure this is not the last time the guy is running the scam. Then have a buddy set up a meeting and have the cops there.
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    OceanInDisguise13OceanInDisguise13 Behind the sun Posts: 920
    WHOA :? Sorry dude but it sounds like a total scam. Im leary of Craigslist and anything like it. Good luck getting your money back.
    I wish I was an alien at home behind the sun.....
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    CJMST3KCJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    KL283664 wrote:
    I will send you a photo. Seems I am F'd. Will try to reach back out to the guy and / or his messenger to get my $$ back. But I am sure I will be Shit out of luck...

    If I were you, I would keep doing Craig's list searches for All Access Passes since I'm sure this is not the last time the guy is running the scam. Then have a buddy set up a meeting and have the cops there.


    There were similar redundant craigslist posts before.

    I think if he posts that he wants the same package for the other MSG show then they'll meet with him, knowing he's paid before too.
    ADD 5,200 to the post count you see, thank you. :)
    *NYC 9/28/96 *NYC 9/29/96 *NJ 9/8/98 (front row "may i play drums with you")
    *MSG 9/10/98 (backstage) *MSG 9/11/98 (backstage)
    *Jones Beach 8/23/00 *Jones Beach 8/24/00 *Jones Beach 8/25/00
    *Mansfield 8/29/00 *Mansfield 8/30/00 *Nassau 4/30/03 *Nissan VA 7/1/03
    *Borgata 10/1/05 *Camden 5/27/06 *Camden 5/28/06 *DC 5/30/06
    *VA Beach 6/17/08 *DC 6/22/08 *MSG 6/24/08 (backstage) *MSG 6/25/08
    *EV DC 8/17/08 *EV Baltimore 6/15/09 *Philly 10/31/09
    *Bristow VA 5/13/10 *MSG 5/20/10 *MSG 5/21/10
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    420Rick420Rick Posts: 68
    Damn that sucks dude.

    But that sounds like some damn good advice from CJMST3K.
    I know I will always use a credit card in the future.
    I keep forgetting about that protection.

    BTW, CJMST3K, what's up with the avatar? I throw up a little in my mouth every time I see it.
    I see it way too many times, well, cuz you post alot :D

    Think you may wanna change it to something new for 2010: :mrgreen:

    Peace!!
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    5/15/10 Hartford, CT
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    Mike's SideMike's Side Posts: 954
    Let me know if you get the $300 back because I have a Nigerian friend that needs $300 to claim his $10000.00 stuck in limbo. He will split the 10k with you. Just email - <!-- e --><a href="mailto:pleasescamnow@lessonlearned.com">pleasescamnow@lessonlearned.com</a><!-- e -->
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    2003 - WPB,Tampa,Atlanta,Camden 1&2,MSG 1&2, Boston 3,Hershey Park
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    2008 - West Palm Beach,Tampa,Columbia,Virginia Beach, Mansfield 1&2
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    CJMST3KCJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    420Rick wrote:
    Damn that sucks dude.

    But that sounds like some damn good advice from CJMST3K.
    I know I will always use a credit card in the future.
    I keep forgetting about that protection.

    BTW, CJMST3K, what's up with the avatar? I throw up a little in my mouth every time I see it.
    I see it way too many times, well, cuz you post alot :D

    Think you may wanna change it to something new for 2010: :mrgreen:

    Peace!!


    Yeah - I'm getting ready to change it soon. :)
    ADD 5,200 to the post count you see, thank you. :)
    *NYC 9/28/96 *NYC 9/29/96 *NJ 9/8/98 (front row "may i play drums with you")
    *MSG 9/10/98 (backstage) *MSG 9/11/98 (backstage)
    *Jones Beach 8/23/00 *Jones Beach 8/24/00 *Jones Beach 8/25/00
    *Mansfield 8/29/00 *Mansfield 8/30/00 *Nassau 4/30/03 *Nissan VA 7/1/03
    *Borgata 10/1/05 *Camden 5/27/06 *Camden 5/28/06 *DC 5/30/06
    *VA Beach 6/17/08 *DC 6/22/08 *MSG 6/24/08 (backstage) *MSG 6/25/08
    *EV DC 8/17/08 *EV Baltimore 6/15/09 *Philly 10/31/09
    *Bristow VA 5/13/10 *MSG 5/20/10 *MSG 5/21/10
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    KL283664KL283664 Posts: 40
    Ten Club just emailed me back and says "SCAM". If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is...

    I learned my lesson but I will contact police as I have cell phone numbers for him and messenger (which I am sure are pre-pays)... But you never know.

    Thanks everyone!
    1998 - MSG, MSG
    2000 - SPAC
    2003 - Albany, MSG, MSG
    2005 - MSG, Atlantic City
    2006 - NJ
    2008- MSG, MSG, Eddie
    2009 - Eddie, Hawaii
    2009 - Chicago, Chicago, Philly
    2010 - Upcoming MSG, MSG, Belfast, Dublin
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    CJMST3KCJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    KL283664 wrote:
    Ten Club just emailed me back and says "SCAM". If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is...

    I learned my lesson but I will contact police as I have cell phone numbers for him and messenger (which I am sure are pre-pays)... But you never know.

    Thanks everyone!


    Best of luck! Try to setup a sting with the cops too!

    (and I'm still interested in seeing photos of what they were scamming)
    ADD 5,200 to the post count you see, thank you. :)
    *NYC 9/28/96 *NYC 9/29/96 *NJ 9/8/98 (front row "may i play drums with you")
    *MSG 9/10/98 (backstage) *MSG 9/11/98 (backstage)
    *Jones Beach 8/23/00 *Jones Beach 8/24/00 *Jones Beach 8/25/00
    *Mansfield 8/29/00 *Mansfield 8/30/00 *Nassau 4/30/03 *Nissan VA 7/1/03
    *Borgata 10/1/05 *Camden 5/27/06 *Camden 5/28/06 *DC 5/30/06
    *VA Beach 6/17/08 *DC 6/22/08 *MSG 6/24/08 (backstage) *MSG 6/25/08
    *EV DC 8/17/08 *EV Baltimore 6/15/09 *Philly 10/31/09
    *Bristow VA 5/13/10 *MSG 5/20/10 *MSG 5/21/10
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    KL283664KL283664 Posts: 40
    I promise to send you a copy of the pass (front and back) tonight.
    1998 - MSG, MSG
    2000 - SPAC
    2003 - Albany, MSG, MSG
    2005 - MSG, Atlantic City
    2006 - NJ
    2008- MSG, MSG, Eddie
    2009 - Eddie, Hawaii
    2009 - Chicago, Chicago, Philly
    2010 - Upcoming MSG, MSG, Belfast, Dublin
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    pjtradekingpjtradeking Posts: 4,045
    Blazenup wrote:
    Let me know if you get the $300 back because I have a Nigerian friend that needs $300 to claim his $10000.00 stuck in limbo. He will split the 10k with you. Just email - <!-- e --><a href="mailto:pleasescamnow@lessonlearned.com">pleasescamnow@lessonlearned.com</a><!-- e -->


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    JR86440JR86440 Posts: 741
    Blazenup wrote:
    Let me know if you get the $300 back because I have a Nigerian friend that needs $300 to claim his $10000.00 stuck in limbo. He will split the 10k with you. Just email - <!-- e --><a href="mailto:pleasescamnow@lessonlearned.com">pleasescamnow@lessonlearned.com</a><!-- e -->


    Every thread needs their douche! CONGRATS!! You are the winner! ;-)


    I thought it was pretty funny!! Seriously, 300dollars for front row tix AND backstage passes... this definitely rivals the nigerian emails in gullability
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    KL283664KL283664 Posts: 40
    Blazenup wrote:
    Let me know if you get the $300 back because I have a Nigerian friend that needs $300 to claim his $10000.00 stuck in limbo. He will split the 10k with you. Just email - <!-- e --><a href="mailto:pleasescamnow@lessonlearned.com">pleasescamnow@lessonlearned.com</a><!-- e -->


    Dude - You are a douche.Why not poor salt in the wounds.
    1998 - MSG, MSG
    2000 - SPAC
    2003 - Albany, MSG, MSG
    2005 - MSG, Atlantic City
    2006 - NJ
    2008- MSG, MSG, Eddie
    2009 - Eddie, Hawaii
    2009 - Chicago, Chicago, Philly
    2010 - Upcoming MSG, MSG, Belfast, Dublin
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    KL283664KL283664 Posts: 40
    JR86440 wrote:
    Blazenup wrote:
    Let me know if you get the $300 back because I have a Nigerian friend that needs $300 to claim his $10000.00 stuck in limbo. He will split the 10k with you. Just email - <!-- e --><a href="mailto:pleasescamnow@lessonlearned.com">pleasescamnow@lessonlearned.com</a><!-- e -->


    Every thread needs their douche! CONGRATS!! You are the winner! ;-)


    I thought it was pretty funny!! Seriously, 300dollars for front row tix AND backstage passes... this definitely rivals the nigerian emails in gullability

    And Douche #2. Thanks man! I was just commending how much support I received on this forum to some friends and I am lucky it was only $300. So Go F Yourself.
    1998 - MSG, MSG
    2000 - SPAC
    2003 - Albany, MSG, MSG
    2005 - MSG, Atlantic City
    2006 - NJ
    2008- MSG, MSG, Eddie
    2009 - Eddie, Hawaii
    2009 - Chicago, Chicago, Philly
    2010 - Upcoming MSG, MSG, Belfast, Dublin
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    DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,413
    Take a joke, and he has a point.

    You had to know somethin was up.
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    JR86440JR86440 Posts: 741
    sorry man.. seriously.. didnt mean to be a douche but I guess I was.. Guess the excitement got the better of you.. wish I could say I havent done anything I could take back..i hope you find the guy who scammed you and get your money back
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    KL283664KL283664 Posts: 40
    JR86440 wrote:
    sorry man.. seriously.. didnt mean to be a douche but I guess I was.. Guess the excitement got the better of you.. wish I could say I havent done anything I could take back..i hope you find the guy who scammed you and get your money back

    I knew it was too good to be true but the idea of getting front row seats took hold of me. I did not even care so much about the ALL ACCESS aspect of it. I was just thinking how amazing it would be to rock out in the front row of one of these shows.

    I learned a lesson today. Paypal and or Credit Cards only in the future.

    Thanks everyone.

    KL
    1998 - MSG, MSG
    2000 - SPAC
    2003 - Albany, MSG, MSG
    2005 - MSG, Atlantic City
    2006 - NJ
    2008- MSG, MSG, Eddie
    2009 - Eddie, Hawaii
    2009 - Chicago, Chicago, Philly
    2010 - Upcoming MSG, MSG, Belfast, Dublin
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    CJMST3KCJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    KL283664 wrote:
    JR86440 wrote:
    sorry man.. seriously.. didnt mean to be a douche but I guess I was.. Guess the excitement got the better of you.. wish I could say I havent done anything I could take back..i hope you find the guy who scammed you and get your money back

    I knew it was too good to be true but the idea of getting front row seats took hold of me. I did not even care so much about the ALL ACCESS aspect of it. I was just thinking how amazing it would be to rock out in the front row of one of these shows.

    I learned a lesson today. Paypal and or Credit Cards only in the future.

    Thanks everyone.

    KL


    Paypal using CC only. Paypal using your bank account is very risky.

    I've had PP side with me on a dispute, only to tell me that the fraudulent seller closed their account so they couldn't refund money. And that's where CC rules saved me... every time.
    ADD 5,200 to the post count you see, thank you. :)
    *NYC 9/28/96 *NYC 9/29/96 *NJ 9/8/98 (front row "may i play drums with you")
    *MSG 9/10/98 (backstage) *MSG 9/11/98 (backstage)
    *Jones Beach 8/23/00 *Jones Beach 8/24/00 *Jones Beach 8/25/00
    *Mansfield 8/29/00 *Mansfield 8/30/00 *Nassau 4/30/03 *Nissan VA 7/1/03
    *Borgata 10/1/05 *Camden 5/27/06 *Camden 5/28/06 *DC 5/30/06
    *VA Beach 6/17/08 *DC 6/22/08 *MSG 6/24/08 (backstage) *MSG 6/25/08
    *EV DC 8/17/08 *EV Baltimore 6/15/09 *Philly 10/31/09
    *Bristow VA 5/13/10 *MSG 5/20/10 *MSG 5/21/10
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    RedMosquito22RedMosquito22 Posts: 8,158
    KL283664 wrote:
    So - I answered a Craigslist ad for ALL ACCESS VIP passed to the 5/21 PJ show at MSG. Said Section 1/Row A and All Access VIP Passes for $300. Sounds too good to be true?

    Impulsive as I am, I contact the guy and ask a bunch of questions. Seemed legit. Met with his messenger who delivered actual authentic looking VIP All Access Necklace passes with bar codes, seat assignments, pictures of the PJ band in all their glory.

    So I paid the $300.

    Then I returned to my office and skepticism got the best of me. I tried using a bar code scanner and guess what: Neither of the bar codes are actually scannable. Unless it is because they are behind plastic???? Also - The bar code pictures themselves (thick and thin black lines) match on both tickets even though the ticket numbers are completely different....

    Has anyone had any exerpience with ALL ACCESS passes. Do they scan or type the digits in when entering venue? Am I f'd out of my money?
    Thoughts?

    You have been scammed brother. Sorry. Row 1 is all fan club lottery winners.
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