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To Good To be True -- All Access Passes to MSG Show
So - I answered a Craigslist ad for ALL ACCESS VIP passed to the 5/21 PJ show at MSG. Said Section 1/Row A and All Access VIP Passes for $300. Sounds too good to be true?
Impulsive as I am, I contact the guy and ask a bunch of questions. Seemed legit. Met with his messenger who delivered actual authentic looking VIP All Access Necklace passes with bar codes, seat assignments, pictures of the PJ band in all their glory.
So I paid the $300.
Then I returned to my office and skepticism got the best of me. I tried using a bar code scanner and guess what: Neither of the bar codes are actually scannable. Unless it is because they are behind plastic???? Also - The bar code pictures themselves (thick and thin black lines) match on both tickets even though the ticket numbers are completely different....
Has anyone had any exerpience with ALL ACCESS passes. Do they scan or type the digits in when entering venue? Am I f'd out of my money?
Thoughts?
Impulsive as I am, I contact the guy and ask a bunch of questions. Seemed legit. Met with his messenger who delivered actual authentic looking VIP All Access Necklace passes with bar codes, seat assignments, pictures of the PJ band in all their glory.
So I paid the $300.
Then I returned to my office and skepticism got the best of me. I tried using a bar code scanner and guess what: Neither of the bar codes are actually scannable. Unless it is because they are behind plastic???? Also - The bar code pictures themselves (thick and thin black lines) match on both tickets even though the ticket numbers are completely different....
Has anyone had any exerpience with ALL ACCESS passes. Do they scan or type the digits in when entering venue? Am I f'd out of my money?
Thoughts?
1998 - MSG, MSG
2000 - SPAC
2003 - Albany, MSG, MSG
2005 - MSG, Atlantic City
2006 - NJ
2008- MSG, MSG, Eddie
2009 - Eddie, Hawaii
2009 - Chicago, Chicago, Philly
2010 - Upcoming MSG, MSG, Belfast, Dublin
2000 - SPAC
2003 - Albany, MSG, MSG
2005 - MSG, Atlantic City
2006 - NJ
2008- MSG, MSG, Eddie
2009 - Eddie, Hawaii
2009 - Chicago, Chicago, Philly
2010 - Upcoming MSG, MSG, Belfast, Dublin
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i hope you find tickets to the show
Good luck, friend.
EDIT: If it is legitimate, 10c or the venue should know. Ask 'em.
dude you need some tickets
That's a shame what happened. Hope you catch a break
There were listings for this a while back too. Since floor seats are going for well over $300 on stubhub, etc... theres no way anyone would sell backstage passes plus front row seats for $300. :(
:shock: :shock: :shock:
Someone posted this same auction from Craigslist about a month ago. I replied to that, but I was told I was "gloating" and being "smug" for mentioning my experience in this field in threads like these.
Here's my thoughts on this same item: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=128517
At the risk of seeming "smug", since I have extensive experience in this area (up until 2000) hopefully I can give some insight.
Backstage passes come in two typical categories. Stickies and Laminates.
-Stickies are fabric stickers, and usually given to stage-hands and local crew.
-Laminates are usually for tour personnel
I have about 300 backstage passes from working concerts in arenas and theaters in the NYC area. None of them use barcodes. Granted, I stopped working shows in 2000... but even considering that, I believe no one is using barcodes even currently. In 2008 I was backstage for PJ at MSG, and my old friend was doing security at their dressing room corridor... and they had no scanner. Only thing different was a bomb-sniffing-dog, but that's about it.
Can you PM me a good image of the front and back? I'll let you know if I think it's legit.
"Also - The bar code pictures themselves (thick and thin black lines) match on both tickets even though the ticket numbers are completely different...." Yeah, that's not good at all...
*NYC 9/28/96 *NYC 9/29/96 *NJ 9/8/98 (front row "may i play drums with you")
*MSG 9/10/98 (backstage) *MSG 9/11/98 (backstage)
*Jones Beach 8/23/00 *Jones Beach 8/24/00 *Jones Beach 8/25/00
*Mansfield 8/29/00 *Mansfield 8/30/00 *Nassau 4/30/03 *Nissan VA 7/1/03
*Borgata 10/1/05 *Camden 5/27/06 *Camden 5/28/06 *DC 5/30/06
*VA Beach 6/17/08 *DC 6/22/08 *MSG 6/24/08 (backstage) *MSG 6/25/08
*EV DC 8/17/08 *EV Baltimore 6/15/09 *Philly 10/31/09
*Bristow VA 5/13/10 *MSG 5/20/10 *MSG 5/21/10
2000 - SPAC
2003 - Albany, MSG, MSG
2005 - MSG, Atlantic City
2006 - NJ
2008- MSG, MSG, Eddie
2009 - Eddie, Hawaii
2009 - Chicago, Chicago, Philly
2010 - Upcoming MSG, MSG, Belfast, Dublin
WAIT! Don't contact him yet.... (typing)
At the moment, he has no idea you are unhappy. Until the event happens, he'll assume you know nothing.
Firstly - If you paid him via paypal with a CREDIT CARD, then the CC should protect you. I've been scammed on ebay and on this forum a bunch of times, and since I only pay with my CC, I have not once lost money because their protections are that good. How did you pay?
IF you're going to go after him, why not email him back and say "my friend now wants the same package... do you have another for the other MSG show?" He'll of course say "yes" and that will give you the opportunity to meet with them in person again, for you to handle things personally. If you let them know you are on to them, then there's no way you'll find them.
...but it boils down to how you paid...
*NYC 9/28/96 *NYC 9/29/96 *NJ 9/8/98 (front row "may i play drums with you")
*MSG 9/10/98 (backstage) *MSG 9/11/98 (backstage)
*Jones Beach 8/23/00 *Jones Beach 8/24/00 *Jones Beach 8/25/00
*Mansfield 8/29/00 *Mansfield 8/30/00 *Nassau 4/30/03 *Nissan VA 7/1/03
*Borgata 10/1/05 *Camden 5/27/06 *Camden 5/28/06 *DC 5/30/06
*VA Beach 6/17/08 *DC 6/22/08 *MSG 6/24/08 (backstage) *MSG 6/25/08
*EV DC 8/17/08 *EV Baltimore 6/15/09 *Philly 10/31/09
*Bristow VA 5/13/10 *MSG 5/20/10 *MSG 5/21/10
2000 - SPAC
2003 - Albany, MSG, MSG
2005 - MSG, Atlantic City
2006 - NJ
2008- MSG, MSG, Eddie
2009 - Eddie, Hawaii
2009 - Chicago, Chicago, Philly
2010 - Upcoming MSG, MSG, Belfast, Dublin
If I were you, I would keep doing Craig's list searches for All Access Passes since I'm sure this is not the last time the guy is running the scam. Then have a buddy set up a meeting and have the cops there.
I wanna race..with the sundown..I want a last breath..I don't let out...
There were similar redundant craigslist posts before.
I think if he posts that he wants the same package for the other MSG show then they'll meet with him, knowing he's paid before too.
*NYC 9/28/96 *NYC 9/29/96 *NJ 9/8/98 (front row "may i play drums with you")
*MSG 9/10/98 (backstage) *MSG 9/11/98 (backstage)
*Jones Beach 8/23/00 *Jones Beach 8/24/00 *Jones Beach 8/25/00
*Mansfield 8/29/00 *Mansfield 8/30/00 *Nassau 4/30/03 *Nissan VA 7/1/03
*Borgata 10/1/05 *Camden 5/27/06 *Camden 5/28/06 *DC 5/30/06
*VA Beach 6/17/08 *DC 6/22/08 *MSG 6/24/08 (backstage) *MSG 6/25/08
*EV DC 8/17/08 *EV Baltimore 6/15/09 *Philly 10/31/09
*Bristow VA 5/13/10 *MSG 5/20/10 *MSG 5/21/10
But that sounds like some damn good advice from CJMST3K.
I know I will always use a credit card in the future.
I keep forgetting about that protection.
BTW, CJMST3K, what's up with the avatar? I throw up a little in my mouth every time I see it.
I see it way too many times, well, cuz you post alot
Think you may wanna change it to something new for 2010:
Peace!!
8/7/16 Fenway Park II, Boston
5/2/16 MSG II, NYC
5/1/16 MSG I, NYC
5/21/10 MSG II, NYC
5/15/10 Hartford, CT
8/02/08 Eddie Vedder - Boston, MA
6/28/08 Mansfield, MA
6/27/08 Hartford, CT
5/13/06 Hartford, CT
5/12/06 Albany, NY
9/13/98 Hartford, CT
10/2/96 Hartford, CT
4/6/94 Springfield, MA
1998 - West Palm Beach 1
2000 - West Palm Beach 1&2
2003 - WPB,Tampa,Atlanta,Camden 1&2,MSG 1&2, Boston 3,Hershey Park
2004 - Asheville, Kissimmee
2008 - West Palm Beach,Tampa,Columbia,Virginia Beach, Mansfield 1&2
2010 - Hartford,Boston,Newark, MSG 1&2
2011 - PJ20 1&2, Costa Rica
2013 - Wrigley,Brooklyn 1&2,Seattle
2014 - Denver,Mountain View 1&2
2015 - Bogata, Mexico City
2016 - Ft Lauderdale,Miami,Tampa,NYC 1&2,Telluride,Fenway 1&2,Wrigley 1&2
Yeah - I'm getting ready to change it soon.
*NYC 9/28/96 *NYC 9/29/96 *NJ 9/8/98 (front row "may i play drums with you")
*MSG 9/10/98 (backstage) *MSG 9/11/98 (backstage)
*Jones Beach 8/23/00 *Jones Beach 8/24/00 *Jones Beach 8/25/00
*Mansfield 8/29/00 *Mansfield 8/30/00 *Nassau 4/30/03 *Nissan VA 7/1/03
*Borgata 10/1/05 *Camden 5/27/06 *Camden 5/28/06 *DC 5/30/06
*VA Beach 6/17/08 *DC 6/22/08 *MSG 6/24/08 (backstage) *MSG 6/25/08
*EV DC 8/17/08 *EV Baltimore 6/15/09 *Philly 10/31/09
*Bristow VA 5/13/10 *MSG 5/20/10 *MSG 5/21/10
I learned my lesson but I will contact police as I have cell phone numbers for him and messenger (which I am sure are pre-pays)... But you never know.
Thanks everyone!
2000 - SPAC
2003 - Albany, MSG, MSG
2005 - MSG, Atlantic City
2006 - NJ
2008- MSG, MSG, Eddie
2009 - Eddie, Hawaii
2009 - Chicago, Chicago, Philly
2010 - Upcoming MSG, MSG, Belfast, Dublin
Best of luck! Try to setup a sting with the cops too!
(and I'm still interested in seeing photos of what they were scamming)
*NYC 9/28/96 *NYC 9/29/96 *NJ 9/8/98 (front row "may i play drums with you")
*MSG 9/10/98 (backstage) *MSG 9/11/98 (backstage)
*Jones Beach 8/23/00 *Jones Beach 8/24/00 *Jones Beach 8/25/00
*Mansfield 8/29/00 *Mansfield 8/30/00 *Nassau 4/30/03 *Nissan VA 7/1/03
*Borgata 10/1/05 *Camden 5/27/06 *Camden 5/28/06 *DC 5/30/06
*VA Beach 6/17/08 *DC 6/22/08 *MSG 6/24/08 (backstage) *MSG 6/25/08
*EV DC 8/17/08 *EV Baltimore 6/15/09 *Philly 10/31/09
*Bristow VA 5/13/10 *MSG 5/20/10 *MSG 5/21/10
2000 - SPAC
2003 - Albany, MSG, MSG
2005 - MSG, Atlantic City
2006 - NJ
2008- MSG, MSG, Eddie
2009 - Eddie, Hawaii
2009 - Chicago, Chicago, Philly
2010 - Upcoming MSG, MSG, Belfast, Dublin
Every thread needs their douche! CONGRATS!! You are the winner! ;-)
"Free Shipping" SPEEDY MCCREADY
My friend was going to see Eddie last night. Since he was in Vegas, I gave him 5 Grand to gamble with. I told him I wanted it all to go on Black. Bastard! PhillyCrownOfThorns-11-2-12
I thought it was pretty funny!! Seriously, 300dollars for front row tix AND backstage passes... this definitely rivals the nigerian emails in gullability
Dude - You are a douche.Why not poor salt in the wounds.
2000 - SPAC
2003 - Albany, MSG, MSG
2005 - MSG, Atlantic City
2006 - NJ
2008- MSG, MSG, Eddie
2009 - Eddie, Hawaii
2009 - Chicago, Chicago, Philly
2010 - Upcoming MSG, MSG, Belfast, Dublin
And Douche #2. Thanks man! I was just commending how much support I received on this forum to some friends and I am lucky it was only $300. So Go F Yourself.
2000 - SPAC
2003 - Albany, MSG, MSG
2005 - MSG, Atlantic City
2006 - NJ
2008- MSG, MSG, Eddie
2009 - Eddie, Hawaii
2009 - Chicago, Chicago, Philly
2010 - Upcoming MSG, MSG, Belfast, Dublin
You had to know somethin was up.
I knew it was too good to be true but the idea of getting front row seats took hold of me. I did not even care so much about the ALL ACCESS aspect of it. I was just thinking how amazing it would be to rock out in the front row of one of these shows.
I learned a lesson today. Paypal and or Credit Cards only in the future.
Thanks everyone.
KL
2000 - SPAC
2003 - Albany, MSG, MSG
2005 - MSG, Atlantic City
2006 - NJ
2008- MSG, MSG, Eddie
2009 - Eddie, Hawaii
2009 - Chicago, Chicago, Philly
2010 - Upcoming MSG, MSG, Belfast, Dublin
Paypal using CC only. Paypal using your bank account is very risky.
I've had PP side with me on a dispute, only to tell me that the fraudulent seller closed their account so they couldn't refund money. And that's where CC rules saved me... every time.
*NYC 9/28/96 *NYC 9/29/96 *NJ 9/8/98 (front row "may i play drums with you")
*MSG 9/10/98 (backstage) *MSG 9/11/98 (backstage)
*Jones Beach 8/23/00 *Jones Beach 8/24/00 *Jones Beach 8/25/00
*Mansfield 8/29/00 *Mansfield 8/30/00 *Nassau 4/30/03 *Nissan VA 7/1/03
*Borgata 10/1/05 *Camden 5/27/06 *Camden 5/28/06 *DC 5/30/06
*VA Beach 6/17/08 *DC 6/22/08 *MSG 6/24/08 (backstage) *MSG 6/25/08
*EV DC 8/17/08 *EV Baltimore 6/15/09 *Philly 10/31/09
*Bristow VA 5/13/10 *MSG 5/20/10 *MSG 5/21/10
You have been scammed brother. Sorry. Row 1 is all fan club lottery winners.
8/15/92, 9/28/96, 8/28/98, 8/29/98, 9/18/98, 8/3/00, 8/9/00, 8/10/00, 8/23/00, 8/25/00, 9/1/00, 9/2/00, 4/28/03, 6/18/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 10/1/04, 10/3/05, 6/19/08, 10/27/09, 10/31/09, 5/21/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11, 10/21/13
More to Come....