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Poachers kill one of last two white rhinos in Zambia

jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
edited June 2007 in A Moving Train
this just sucks. a white rhino has to be one of the coolest animals on earth. now there is only one left. this story just bummed me out.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070612/wl_africa_afp/zambiawildlifepoaching_070612135653


LUSAKA (AFP) - Poachers have shot the last two white rhinos in Zambia, killing one and wounding the other, in a night operation at the Mosi-Oa-Tunya national park in Livingstone, an official said Tuesday.
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The shooting of the two endangered animals in a heavily-guarded zoological park near Victoria Falls in Zambia's tourist resort town of Livingstone took place last week.

"I can confirm that one of the white rhinos was shot dead by suspected poachers. The other one was wounded and is undergoing treatment," said Maureen Mwape, spokesperson of the Zambia Wildlife Authority (ZAWA), which would be investigating the shooting.

The dead female rhino's horn was apparently removed.

Zambia's white rhinos were all killed by poachers but the government managed to acquire six from South Africa in 1993, of which the injured male is the last to survive.
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    blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    that is terrible... I remember seeing a special about the white rhino like 15 years ago, and I have had a soft spot for them ever since.
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    Alex_CoeAlex_Coe Posts: 762
    That has got to be some valuable ivory.
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    jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Alex_Coe wrote:
    That has got to be some valuable ivory.
    thats the shitty part. the market value is so high these poachers will kill them until they are extinct.
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    Eliot RosewaterEliot Rosewater Posts: 2,684
    I struggle to find a just punishment for these poachers. I mean, I don't believe in the death penalty. But in my mind, this is a bigger crime than murdering a human. Maybe feed them to the lions. That'll teach 'em to fuck with wildlife.
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    jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    don't gimme no wrote:
    I struggle to find a just punishment for these poachers. I mean, I don't believe in the death penalty. But in my mind, this is a bigger crime than murdering a human. Maybe feed them to the lions. That'll teach 'em to fuck with wildlife.
    I like that idea.
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    Alex_CoeAlex_Coe Posts: 762
    don't gimme no wrote:
    I struggle to find a just punishment for these poachers. I mean, I don't believe in the death penalty. But in my mind, this is a bigger crime than murdering a human. Maybe feed them to the lions. That'll teach 'em to fuck with wildlife.


    Or.... take all their teeth and make a necklace out of it. Everybody knows you can't chew without teeth.
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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    jlew24asu wrote:
    thats the shitty part. the market value is so high these poachers will kill them until they are extinct.


    free market fans should note the obvious shortcomings of that philosophy, when they read stories like this.
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    jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    my2hands wrote:
    free market fans should note the obvious shortcomings of that philosophy, when they read stories like this.
    breaking the law is not a shortcoming of a free market.
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    AbookamongstthemanyAbookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    jlew24asu wrote:
    breaking the law is not a shortcoming of a free market.

    Free market philosophy is against regulation...you know...the stuff that protects these animals.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

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    AbookamongstthemanyAbookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    Jlew, after this thread and the one you made on the Porch about seniority/ticketing equal opportunity...I'm being a little bit of closet liberal heart beating somewhere inside that rough exterior. ;)
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    normnorm I'm always home. I'm uncool. Posts: 31,147
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    Jlew, after this thread and the one you made on the Porch about seniority/ticketing equal opportunity...I'm being a little bit of closet liberal heart being somewhere inside that rough exterior. ;)


    hehehe....i think so too.....:D
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    tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    Alex_Coe wrote:
    That has got to be some valuable ivory.
    Actually, it's not ivory.....it's actually similar chemically to either our hair or fingernails. Many Chinese believe that rhino horn crushed to a powder and ingested is male potency cure. It was hoped that the world-wide marketing of Viagra would kill the market for exotic animal parts (tigers are killed so that their penises can be made into a soup that supposed to cure a limp noodle) as potency drugs. The Arabs (and other peoples living on the Arabian Peninsula) desire the horn for use in making traditional-style knives that serve as tokens of their man-hood.

    I will be a sad day when we lose all of our mega-fauna. :(
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    jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    Free market philosophy is against regulation...you know...the stuff that protects these animals.
    I thought it was laws that protect these animals.
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    jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    Jlew, after this thread and the one you made on the Porch about seniority/ticketing equal opportunity...I'm being a little bit of closet liberal heart beating somewhere inside that rough exterior. ;)

    blasphemy :D;)
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    CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,219
    tybird wrote:
    Actually, it's not ivory.....it's actually similar chemically to either our hair or fingernails. Many Chinese believe that rhino horn crushed to a powder and ingested is male potency cure. It was hoped that the world-wide marketing of Viagra would kill the market for exotic animal parts (tigers are killed so that their penises can be made into a soup that supposed to cure a limp noodle) as potency drugs. The Arabs (and other peoples living on the Arabian Peninsula) desire the horn for use in making traditional-style knives that serve as tokens of their man-hood.

    I will be a sad day when we lose all of our mega-fauna. :(
    ...
    Like the fucking Chinese need fucking potency. Aren't there already, like a Bazillion Chinese already? How many more do they need?
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    normnorm I'm always home. I'm uncool. Posts: 31,147
    Cosmo wrote:
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    Like the fucking Chinese need fucking potency. Aren't there already, like a Bazillion Chinese already? How many more do they need?


    wal-mart needs someone to make their crap.....
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    AbookamongstthemanyAbookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    jlew24asu wrote:
    I thought it was laws that protect these animals.

    They go hand in hand.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

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    AbookamongstthemanyAbookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    jlew24asu wrote:
    blasphemy :D;)

    Suuuure. :D
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    jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    They go hand in hand.
    no no no I disagree. free markets might support deregulation, but they do not support breaking laws. (such as murder, stealing, etc)
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    AbookamongstthemanyAbookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    jlew24asu wrote:
    no no no I disagree. free markets might support deregulation, but they do not support breaking laws. (such as murder, stealing, etc)


    They don't want the laws/regulations there to begin with.
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    SundaySilenceSundaySilence Posts: 534
    jlew24asu wrote:
    no no no I disagree. free markets might support deregulation, but they do not support breaking laws. (such as murder, stealing, etc)

    ?

    regulations are laws
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    jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    SundaySilence wrote:
    ?

    regulations are laws
    well yea but in this example free markets do not support killing of rhinos for ivory. thats what i'm trying to say.
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    AbookamongstthemanyAbookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    jlew24asu wrote:
    well yea but in this example free markets do not support killing of rhinos for ivory. thats what i'm trying to say.


    So they don't support the free market of Rhino tusks...just other things?
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

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    jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    So they don't support the free market of Rhino tusks...just other things?
    there is no "free market" of rhino tusks. its illegal.
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    Vedderlution_BabyVedderlution_Baby Posts: 2,545
    I wonder what the aliens are going to think when we become extinct.


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    Vedderlution_BabyVedderlution_Baby Posts: 2,545
    jlew24asu wrote:
    there is no "free market" of rhino tusks. its illegal.


    Even I see that this is going in a huge fucking circle. and not a black one.
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    tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    Cosmo wrote:
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    Like the fucking Chinese need fucking potency. Aren't there already, like a Bazillion Chinese already? How many more do they need?
    I don't write the news, I just report it. :D
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    RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    I've always wondered what bar-b-que rhino tastes like... probably gives you a hard-on for a week.

    If only the China-man penis was larger...the rhino would live...
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    AbookamongstthemanyAbookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    jlew24asu wrote:
    there is no "free market" of rhino tusks. its illegal.


    what keeps any market from being free?
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    CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,219
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    I've always wondered what bar-b-que rhino tastes like...
    ...
    Tastes like chicken.
    ...
    Which is always the stupidest response. If rare Siberian Albino Tiger "Tastes like chicken"... then, EAT The GODDAMN CHICKEN!!! There are a gazillion chickens running around... eat them if you want something that tastes like them and leave the damn Tigers and Rhinos alone.
    ...
    and the damn Chinese... fucking guys are always the ones eating Rhino Horn or Tiger Balls for 'Sexual Prowess'. There are already enough of the damn Chinese running around... they need to eat more pussy and less Rhino horns and Tiger dicks.
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