Poachers kill one of last two white rhinos in Zambia

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  • Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    Tastes like chicken.
    ...
    Which is always the stupidest response. If rare Siberian Albino Tiger "Tastes like chicken"... then, EAT The GODDAMN CHICKEN!!! There are a gazillion chickens running around... eat them if you want something that tastes like them and leave the damn Tigers and Rhinos alone.
    ...
    and the damn Chinese... fucking guys are always the ones eating Rhino Horn or Tiger Balls for 'Sexual Prowess'. There are already enough of the damn Chinese running around... they need to eat more pussy and less Rhino horns and Tiger dicks.

    I get the feeling some Asians eat absolutely everything. Deep fried bugs, cats, dogs, rats, probably even monkey balls...
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  • Alex_CoeAlex_Coe Posts: 762
    tybird wrote:
    Actually, it's not ivory.....it's actually similar chemically to either our hair or fingernails. Many Chinese believe that rhino horn crushed to a powder and ingested is male potency cure. It was hoped that the world-wide marketing of Viagra would kill the market for exotic animal parts (tigers are killed so that their penises can be made into a soup that supposed to cure a limp noodle) as potency drugs. The Arabs (and other peoples living on the Arabian Peninsula) desire the horn for use in making traditional-style knives that serve as tokens of their man-hood.

    I will be a sad day when we lose all of our mega-fauna. :(

    Why do you know all this?
  • my2hands wrote:
    free market fans should note the obvious shortcomings of that philosophy, when they read stories like this.

    There is absolutely a free market response to endangered animals. If animals like the white rhinoceros, amur tiger, and leopard are able to be owned, bred, and hunted, you would see a resurgence in their numbers. A privately-owned reserve would have much more incentive to protect their animals from poachers than do the state-owned parks. Like any other owner of resources, it would be beneficial for the park owners to not overuse (overhunt) the animals. Other than hunting, privately-owned reserves would be ideal for other forms of tourism.
    Without a doubt, there would still be endangered animals. With only white rhinoceros left, howerver, it couldn't be worse than it is now.
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  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    Endangered species, caged in fright,
    Shot in cold blood, no chance to fight.
    The stage is set, now pay the price.
    And ego boost, don't think twice.
    Technology, the battle's unfair,
    You pull the hammer without a care.
    Squeeze the trigger that makes you Man,
    Pseudo-safari, the hunt is canned...
    The hunt is canned

    All are gone, all but one.
    No contest, nowhere to run.
    No more left, only one.
    This is it, this is the countdown to extinction

    Tell the truth, you wouldn't dare.
    The skin and trophy, oh so rare.
    Silence speaks louder than words.
    Ignore the guilt and take your turn.
    Liars anagram is "lairs,"
    Man you were never even there.
    Killed a few feet from the cages,
    Point blank, you're so courageous...
    So courageous

    "One hour from now,
    Another species of life form
    Will disappear from the face of the planet
    Forever... And the rate is accelerating."



    The main idea came from Nick, who saw and article in Time magazine about these assholes who poach and hunt animals [like James Hetfield, for example?]. It disgusted all of us. These guys get ten to twenty thousand dollars per animal, depending on the rarity of the species. We all felt it was the perfect example of a society going mad, becoming extinct. Their big guns equal their big dicks! The whole thing we had in LA with those riots in an example of man heading toward extinction. Those riots were about depression, oppression, inequality and racism, about a prejudiced judicial system." (Mustaine, 1992)

    "It deals with canned hunts in America's south - in Texas, for example, they cage exotic animals and drug them up. When they stagger out of the cage, hunters shoot them in the head, take a picture with the dead animal and say that they hunted in some exotic place." (Mustaine, 1992)

    "The girl who did the spoken part in the middle is a friend of mine named Jun. She worked at a sushi bar near the studio so we asked her to come and record with us. She is a cool chick and I still keep in touch with her. This song won us the Genesis award, given out by an animal activist group. At the star-studded Hollywood awards ceremony Ellefson and I tried hard to contain our laughter as these TV and movie stars got up on stage and anthropomorphosised in their acceptance speeches. "I'd like to thank so-and-so, so-and-so, so-and-so, but most importantly of all, Fluffy and Fido, for their constant inspiration, blah, blah, blah..." (Friedman, 2002)


    these rhino killin fucks outta have the fuckin throats ripped out.
    same as all trophy huntin dickless fucks, it's garbage.(chadwick, 2007)
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

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  • Alex_CoeAlex_Coe Posts: 762
    Those lyrics are pretty lametard... that guy is incapable of subtlety in his lyrics.
  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    Alex_Coe wrote:
    Those lyrics are pretty lametard... that guy is incapable of subtlety in his lyrics.

    in your opinion.
    go ahead, start a thread and enlighten us on lyric/song writing.
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • Alex_CoeAlex_Coe Posts: 762
    chadwick wrote:
    in your opinion.
    go ahead, start a thread and enlighten us on lyric/song writing.


    You think those were good lyrics? Bah. I'm no lyrical genius, but I could write better lyrics than that in 30 seconds. I've seen better prose on an Old Spice advertisement.
  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    those megadeth lyrics were added to the thread for the fact that
    those lyrics relate to the topic of this thread.
    mankind killing animals until extinction.
    have you added anything positive to this thread?
    debating with you about lyrics/music should be done else-where.
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • PearlerPearler Posts: 191
    Alex_Coe wrote:
    You think those were good lyrics? Bah. I'm no lyrical genius, but I could write better lyrics than that in 30 seconds. I've seen better prose on an Old Spice advertisement.

    Old Spice is good.

    What use does anyone have for a white rhino other than to say,,, "hey, look at the pretty white fucking rhino ?"
  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    Alex_Coe wrote:
    Why do you know all this?
    Biology major with plans to do post-grad stuff in the Zoology field......despite a steady diet of domesticate animals, I do love learning about wild animals.
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    I've always wondered what bar-b-que rhino tastes like... probably gives you a hard-on for a week.

    If only the China-man penis was larger...the rhino would live...
    Bad news........they cut the horn off where the animal fell dead.....only the vultures, hyenas, jackals and insects eat the dead rhino. The Chinese grind the horn into powder. The Arabs keep the horn intact and make fancy knife handles from it.
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
  • vital5vital5 Posts: 5,486
    Alex_Coe wrote:
    Those lyrics are pretty lametard... that guy is incapable of subtlety in his lyrics.
    I think he was trying to get on the level with Megadeth listeners... subtlety isn't in their vocab ;)
  • vital5vital5 Posts: 5,486
    I get the feeling some Asians eat absolutely everything. Deep fried bugs, cats, dogs, rats, probably even monkey balls...
    Damn you

    MMmmmmmm Monkey balls ... you have my mouth watering now :(

    Damn you!
  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    Wow, thats crazy. Very Sad.. Somewhere in Africa the last White Rhino roams.. all alone. No hope for the future... Could you imagine being the last human on earth.
  • RushlimboRushlimbo Posts: 832
    This is really sad.
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  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    Tastes like chicken.
    ...
    Which is always the stupidest response. If rare Siberian Albino Tiger "Tastes like chicken"... then, EAT The GODDAMN CHICKEN!!! There are a gazillion chickens running around... eat them if you want something that tastes like them and leave the damn Tigers and Rhinos alone.
    ...
    and the damn Chinese... fucking guys are always the ones eating Rhino Horn or Tiger Balls for 'Sexual Prowess'. There are already enough of the damn Chinese running around... they need to eat more pussy and less Rhino horns and Tiger dicks.

    I've eaten squirrel and rabbit. It doesn't taste like chicken, yet there's always someone who says it does. I think its become the pre-conditioned answer for anything (other than bugs, perhaps) to describe wild meat that one hasn't eaten before.

    Of course, the ironic thing is, my meat tastes like chicken.

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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Rushlimbo wrote:
    This is really sad.
    did we just agree on something. you have just read my last post ever and this board.
  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    Wow, thats crazy. Very Sad.. Somewhere in Africa the last White Rhino roams.. all alone. No hope for the future... Could you imagine being the last human on earth.
    It's not that bad....yet.....the White Rhino is still found in the wild in other African countries in good numbers....the rhinos reported about in this thread opener were the last ones in Zambia....which according to the posted article were a re-introduced population from South Africa.

    Check out this link to site I just ran across:

    http://www.rhinos-irf.org/rhinoinformation/whiterhino/index.htm
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
  • even flow?even flow? Posts: 8,066
    jlew24asu wrote:
    this just sucks. a white rhino has to be one of the coolest animals on earth. now there is only one left. this story just bummed me out.


    http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070612/wl_africa_afp/zambiawildlifepoaching_070612135653


    LUSAKA (AFP) - Poachers have shot the last two white rhinos in Zambia, killing one and wounding the other, in a night operation at the Mosi-Oa-Tunya national park in Livingstone, an official said Tuesday.
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    The shooting of the two endangered animals in a heavily-guarded zoological park near Victoria Falls in Zambia's tourist resort town of Livingstone took place last week.

    "I can confirm that one of the white rhinos was shot dead by suspected poachers. The other one was wounded and is undergoing treatment," said Maureen Mwape, spokesperson of the Zambia Wildlife Authority (ZAWA), which would be investigating the shooting.

    The dead female rhino's horn was apparently removed.

    Zambia's white rhinos were all killed by poachers but the government managed to acquire six from South Africa in 1993, of which the injured male is the last to survive.


    I agree with jlew? Time to buy a lottery ticket.

    As long as I can ingest some of the horn and keep it up for an extra 10 minutes who cares about the whole picture. I as a human is perfect. ;)
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  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    tybird wrote:
    It's not that bad....yet.....the White Rhino is still found in the wild in other African countries in good numbers....the rhinos reported about in this thread opener were the last ones in Zambia....which according to the posted article were a re-introduced population from South Africa.

    Check out this link to site I just ran across:

    http://www.rhinos-irf.org/rhinoinformation/whiterhino/index.htm

    Yea, its mostly an issue of the use of the words endangered and extinct. By these definitions, if I take a spotted owl from western north america and bring it to eastern north america it would become an endangered species.
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  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Alex_Coe wrote:
    Or.... take all their teeth and make a necklace out of it. Everybody knows you can't chew without teeth.

    Exactly! As the redneck cowboy said to the Blues Brothers: "You're gonna look pretty damn silly trying to eat corn on the cob with no fuckin' teeth!"
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    tybird wrote:
    It's not that bad....yet.....the White Rhino is still found in the wild in other African countries in good numbers....the rhinos reported about in this thread opener were the last ones in Zambia....which according to the posted article were a re-introduced population from South Africa.

    Check out this link to site I just ran across:

    http://www.rhinos-irf.org/rhinoinformation/whiterhino/index.htm

    well thats good news.
  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    jlew24asu wrote:
    well thats good news.
    Unless you're an Asian Rhino....closer to the market for your horn....means that more of you have been poached.
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Yea, its mostly an issue of the use of the words endangered and extinct. By these definitions, if I take a spotted owl from western north america and bring it to eastern north america it would become an endangered species.
    Add in the use of the word, sub-species, and mix with extinct and endangered....one could argue for days on end in regards to the gravity of the situation.
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    I would also argue that the ecological system isn't as fragile as many think. Life has existed on earth for billions of years and has survived the extinction of 99% of it's species. Thousands of new species are formed every year. Extinction is inevitable as the system evolves. It might sound strange, but I think we are just part of this system, what we develop through technology and stuff is part of the massive evolutionary schema. What if by trying to save species we are actually fucking with natural progression? I also think we could wipe out every species on the planet and within a few thousand years, new animals would exist. And none of it really matters anyway. Its not like there is any point to existence. The best thing for a species other than humans at this point is to have a commodity that keeps it farmed by us and protected from extinction. I think expecting all of a few billion human animals on the planet to stop killing Rhinos and such is a frivolous thought. It would only work if we eliminated certain sub-species of humans and that would make us guilty of our own crime.
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Ahnimus wrote:
    I would also argue that the ecological system isn't as fragile as many think. Life has existed on earth for billions of years and has survived the extinction of 99% of it's species. Thousands of new species are formed every year. Extinction is inevitable as the system evolves. It might sound strange, but I think we are just part of this system, what we develop through technology and stuff is part of the massive evolutionary schema. What if by trying to save species we are actually fucking with natural progression? I also think we could wipe out every species on the planet and within a few thousand years, new animals would exist. And none of it really matters anyway. Its not like there is any point to existence. The best thing for a species other than humans at this point is to have a commodity that keeps it farmed by us and protected from extinction. I think expecting all of a few billion human animals on the planet to stop killing Rhinos and such is a frivolous thought. It would only work if we eliminated certain sub-species of humans and that would make us guilty of our own crime.

    yea but white rhino are still awesome. if they become extinct, i'd like it to be by some "natural" happenings. but some asshole with a gun.
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    jlew24asu wrote:
    yea but white rhino are still awesome. if they become extinct, i'd like it to be by some "natural" happenings. but some asshole with a gun.

    We should have a DNA catalogue of all the known species. Then we can clone them.
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Ahnimus wrote:
    We should have a DNA catalogue of all the known species. Then we can clone them.
    eh, I havent decided how I feel about cloning. I dont think I like it.
  • RushlimboRushlimbo Posts: 832
    jlew24asu wrote:
    did we just agree on something. you have just read my last post ever and this board.

    It was bound to happen eventually.
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  • Alex_CoeAlex_Coe Posts: 762
    Ahnimus wrote:
    We should have a DNA catalogue of all the known species. Then we can clone them.


    Capital idea, Webster. I always wanted my own Triceratops.
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