Queens of the Stone Age

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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BCPosts: 37,148
    edited July 17
    I'm just glad they are etching side 4. That is the one thing that is missing from ...Like Clockwork. I know some might argue that they spread it out so much on that album because it was a 45RPM LP and it was best for the sound, but I'm not buying it, lol. It could have sounded just as good on 3 sides.
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  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ONPosts: 6,895
    PJ_Soul said:
    I'm just glad they are etching side 4. That is the one thing that is missing from ...Like Clockwork. I know some might argue that they spread it out so much on that album because it was a 45RPM LP and it was best for the sound, but I'm not buying it, lol. It could have sounded just as good on 3 sides.
    Not sure if you've done an A/B comparison between 45 and 33-1/3 RPM, but I've done it with mint copies of Tea for the Tillerman, and the difference I heard was astonishing. After that, there are only a handful of bands whose vinyl I'll get if pressed on 33-1/3. 
    '05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2

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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BCPosts: 37,148
    edited July 17
    benjs said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    I'm just glad they are etching side 4. That is the one thing that is missing from ...Like Clockwork. I know some might argue that they spread it out so much on that album because it was a 45RPM LP and it was best for the sound, but I'm not buying it, lol. It could have sounded just as good on 3 sides.
    Not sure if you've done an A/B comparison between 45 and 33-1/3 RPM, but I've done it with mint copies of Tea for the Tillerman, and the difference I heard was astonishing. After that, there are only a handful of bands whose vinyl I'll get if pressed on 33-1/3. 
    I didn't mean that 45 RPM can't produce better sound. I'm arguing that they could have still done it using 3 sides. It didn't need to be as spread out as it is, all other things being equal. There is a LOT of dead space on that record.
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  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ONPosts: 6,895
    PJ_Soul said:
    benjs said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    I'm just glad they are etching side 4. That is the one thing that is missing from ...Like Clockwork. I know some might argue that they spread it out so much on that album because it was a 45RPM LP and it was best for the sound, but I'm not buying it, lol. It could have sounded just as good on 3 sides.
    Not sure if you've done an A/B comparison between 45 and 33-1/3 RPM, but I've done it with mint copies of Tea for the Tillerman, and the difference I heard was astonishing. After that, there are only a handful of bands whose vinyl I'll get if pressed on 33-1/3. 
    I didn't mean that 45 RPM can't produce better sound. I'm arguing that they could have still done it using 3 sides. It didn't need to be as spread out as it is, all other things being equal. There is a LOT of dead space on that record.
    Gotcha! I'm guessing that was an effort to reduce what's known as inner groove distortion.

    First is the fact that you have less vinyl per second towards the centre of a record, which means much data gets 'compressed', and some of the data gets 'glossed over' by your stylus, leading to a loss in audio definition. In addition to that, records are pressed on a parallel basis and read on an increasingly angled one as your tonearm pivots. This theoretically contributes to a loss in quality towards the centre of a record compared to the outside, though I have no idea the magnitude of that degradation. I know my dad had a fancy Audio Technica which had a motor in the tonearm which slid from the outside towards the centre (rather than just pivoting), but I'd be hard-pressed to hear a difference.

    In any case, if the tracks are more-or-less evenly distributed, with a 48 minute runtime (based on Apple Music), you're looking at about 15 minutes per side, which should be more to your liking! :) 
    '05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2

    EV
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  • FrankY59FrankY59 Posts: 1,001
    edited July 20
    About 95% of the live shows I listen to from youtube are post ...Like Clockwork.

    It seemed they really emphasized that album and played it for most part in its entirety.  They had a few other random songs from other albums scattered in the setlist.  Do you think they will follow the same formula this tour in playing Villains in its near entirety scatter few other songs from their catalogue?  If so, what songs from ...Like Clockwork would make the cut?  The album is brilliant front to end.  
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  • eeriepadaveeeriepadave West Chester, PAPosts: 26,673
    edited August 4
    This was my first headlining qotsa show (first show was at ozzfest in '00).  This was very cool with Dave grohl on drums and mark lannegan came out for a few songs.



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    Tonight in Melbourne. Pumped
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    Tonight in Melbourne. Pumped
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    Tonight in Melbourne. Pumped
    Have an awesome night. 
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     anyone want merch? Gene i have you covered. Nearly at merch booth
  • FrankY59FrankY59 Posts: 1,001
    "I Appear Missing" only played once thus far in Oceania!  Not looking good when they come to Detroit :(  Then again I am certain the set list will completely change after August 25th.
  • 2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance Posts: 16,237
    benjs said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    benjs said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    I'm just glad they are etching side 4. That is the one thing that is missing from ...Like Clockwork. I know some might argue that they spread it out so much on that album because it was a 45RPM LP and it was best for the sound, but I'm not buying it, lol. It could have sounded just as good on 3 sides.
    Not sure if you've done an A/B comparison between 45 and 33-1/3 RPM, but I've done it with mint copies of Tea for the Tillerman, and the difference I heard was astonishing. After that, there are only a handful of bands whose vinyl I'll get if pressed on 33-1/3. 
    I didn't mean that 45 RPM can't produce better sound. I'm arguing that they could have still done it using 3 sides. It didn't need to be as spread out as it is, all other things being equal. There is a LOT of dead space on that record.
    Gotcha! I'm guessing that was an effort to reduce what's known as inner groove distortion.

    First is the fact that you have less vinyl per second towards the centre of a record, which means much data gets 'compressed', and some of the data gets 'glossed over' by your stylus, leading to a loss in audio definition. In addition to that, records are pressed on a parallel basis and read on an increasingly angled one as your tonearm pivots. This theoretically contributes to a loss in quality towards the centre of a record compared to the outside, though I have no idea the magnitude of that degradation. I know my dad had a fancy Audio Technica which had a motor in the tonearm which slid from the outside towards the centre (rather than just pivoting), but I'd be hard-pressed to hear a difference.

    In any case, if the tracks are more-or-less evenly distributed, with a 48 minute runtime (based on Apple Music), you're looking at about 15 minutes per side, which should be more to your liking! :) 
    Very well explained. 
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 2,795
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 9,474
    Hopefully not too much of a dance party.  Entering Taylor Swift realm in her country to pop shift territory.
  • FrankY59FrankY59 Posts: 1,001
    tbergs said:
    That article made no sense.  Can someone translate it to English?
  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ONPosts: 6,895
    Someone better call Donald Trump - we have a LEAK!!!! Sad.
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  • benjs said:
    Someone better call Donald Trump - we have a LEAK!!!! Sad.
    It's very good. Very funky. 
    looking to hear of the earth
  • benjs said:
    Someone better call Donald Trump - we have a LEAK!!!! Sad.
    It's very good. Very funky. 
    Looking forward to it!
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  • eeriepadaveeeriepadave West Chester, PAPosts: 26,673
    benjs said:
    Someone better call Donald Trump - we have a LEAK!!!! Sad.
    sweet, thanks for the heads up!
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  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 9,206
    Shitty rip. A couple songs in the middle get quiet.
  • HorosHoros Posts: 4,119
    DewieCox said:
    Shitty rip. A couple songs in the middle get quiet.
    Yeah. still enjoyed listening to it though.
    #FHP
  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ONPosts: 6,895
    Horos said:
    DewieCox said:
    Shitty rip. A couple songs in the middle get quiet.
    Yeah. still enjoyed listening to it though.
    There's a better one out there now.
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 2,795
    I refuse to listen to the unofficial leaks, but the new single is awesome. The last few minutes is pure rock funk!


    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom'sPosts: 6,450
    That's actually official...they released it 
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 2,795
    That's actually official...they released it 
    That's what I meant. I'll listen to it because it's official :)

    It's f-ing amazing. Just listened to it about 4 times in a row. Goosebumps every time after Homme delivers that Here. We. Come! Guitar sound reminds me a lot of Zeppelin circa Physical Graffiti. That thing bleeds in some spots it's so hot. 
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  • Weston1283Weston1283 Cleveland, OHPosts: 2,099
    This album is going to be incredible
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  • eeriepadaveeeriepadave West Chester, PAPosts: 26,673
    Horos said:
    DewieCox said:
    Shitty rip. A couple songs in the middle get quiet.
    Yeah. still enjoyed listening to it though.
    that's the one i got, right around un reborn again it gets quiet.

    My favorite track is probably The Evil Has Landed
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  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 9,474
    Not as excited after hearing the first two songs.  

  • reesdogreesdog Auckland, NZ.Posts: 1,855
    Not as excited after hearing the first two songs.  

    Agreed, not thinking too much for this tinny sound they're going for so far. I have strong doubts about this new record, but hope I'm wrong..
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