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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 10,637
    PJ_Soul said:
    Smellyman said:
    North Korea WILL NEVER attack Guam or any other country.

    Even crazy Kim knows they would be obliterated in seconds.



    wag the dog
    I tend to agree. I also have the "well, you never know - anything's possible - crazy things still happen" thoughts, but I still think the chances of the nut ever actually doing it are slim.
    Which nut?
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BCPosts: 38,333
    PJ_Soul said:
    Smellyman said:
    North Korea WILL NEVER attack Guam or any other country.

    Even crazy Kim knows they would be obliterated in seconds.



    wag the dog
    I tend to agree. I also have the "well, you never know - anything's possible - crazy things still happen" thoughts, but I still think the chances of the nut ever actually doing it are slim.
    Which nut?
    Kim Jung Un.
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 8,971
    edited August 2017
    overzealous junior engineers and scientists at play

    http://www.newsweek.com/trump-north-korea-missiles-nuclear-scientists-649702

    Postol is professor of science, technology and national security policy at MIT who has advised the Pentagon and Congress on missile-related defense projects. Schiller and Schmucker are missile engineers with the Munich-based company who have previously analyzed North Korean missiles, and in 2012 determined that the country’s supposed ICBMs were “fakes.” Schiller has worked on missile analyses for NATO, the EU, the German and Austrian armed forces and other institutions in Europe. Schmucker has worked at NASA and served as a U.N. weapons inspector in Iraq. 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 10,637
    JC29856 said:
    overzealous junior engineers and scientists at play

    http://www.newsweek.com/trump-north-korea-missiles-nuclear-scientists-649702

    Postol is professor of science, technology and national security policy at MIT who has advised the Pentagon and Congress on missile-related defense projects. Schiller and Schmucker are missile engineers with the Munich-based company who have previously analyzed North Korean missiles, and in 2012 determined that the country’s supposed ICBMs were “fakes.” Schiller has worked on missile analyses for NATO, the EU, the German and Austrian armed forces and other institutions in Europe. Schmucker has worked at NASA and served as a U.N. weapons inspector in Iraq. 
    So you'll admit it's a wag the dog response to distract from Mueller's investigation of Russia, Russia, Russia colluding with the Trump campaign to sway the election?
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 8,971
    these reports are odd, first we reject peace talks then we reject proposal to halt nuke testing.


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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 8,971
    things you might learn reading this

    http://www.alternet.org/grayzone-project/pundits-slam-trump-praise-mattis-north-korea

    Someone within the intelligence community is pushing for a military response by leaking this report.”

    months-long campaign by corporate media to drum up fears of a North Korean attack on the American homeland.

    The Western media is notorious for spreading ridiculous myths about North Korea; among them, that the country discovered evidence of unicorns, that all North Koreans are forced to get the same haircut, and that leader Kim Jong-un killed his uncle by feeding him to a pack of dogs.

    Just over 60 years ago, the U.S. waged what was essentially a genocidal war against Korea, in which it murdered millions of people.
    “Over a period of three years or so, we killed off — what — 20 percent of the population,” said Air Force General Curtis LeMay, who led the Strategic Air Command during the Korean War. 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 10,637
    JC29856 said:
    things you might learn reading this

    http://www.alternet.org/grayzone-project/pundits-slam-trump-praise-mattis-north-korea

    Someone within the intelligence community is pushing for a military response by leaking this report.”

    months-long campaign by corporate media to drum up fears of a North Korean attack on the American homeland.

    The Western media is notorious for spreading ridiculous myths about North Korea; among them, that the country discovered evidence of unicorns, that all North Koreans are forced to get the same haircut, and that leader Kim Jong-un killed his uncle by feeding him to a pack of dogs.

    Just over 60 years ago, the U.S. waged what was essentially a genocidal war against Korea, in which it murdered millions of people.
    “Over a period of three years or so, we killed off — what — 20 percent of the population,” said Air Force General Curtis LeMay, who led the Strategic Air Command during the Korean War. 
    Yea sure. I guess if you read infowars. I've never heard any of those "rumors" about North Korea. What shoe is going to drop on Monday regarding Trump and Russian collusion? PTAPE755
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 8,971
    edited August 2017
    North Korea is more successful when it comes to mineral resources. North Korea is speculated to be endowed with over six trillion dollars worth of rare metal resources. North Korea is a reservoir that is vast and mostly untouched due to North Korea's extremely rigid and isolationist policies that prevent any foreign mining company from coming in and making use of the metal deposits beneath the soil. North Korea possesses very large deposits of iron and zinc, being the world's eighteenth largest producer of both. The nation also possesses the twenty-second largest coal reserve in the world.

    Trump Tilly and WS have their eyes on the prize!!

    Did we ever find out what ever happened to Libya's gold reserves?
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 8,971
    edited August 2017
    you think cicilline is familiar with the phrases "you can't unring a bell" or closing the barn doors after the horse are let out?

    Rep. David Cicilline (D-R.I.) told Ryan in a letteron Friday that the House must act immediately to prohibit President Trump from ordering a preemptive nuclear strike without congressional authorization.

    "In light of the ongoing standoff between the United States and North Korea, as well as President Trump's reckless words," Cicilline wrote, "I ask that you immediately call the House of Representatives back into session to debate legislation prohibiting the U.S. from conducting a preemptive nuclear strike without prior congressional authorization."

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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 16,811
    Smellyman said:
    North Korea WILL NEVER attack Guam or any other country.

    Even crazy Kim knows they would be obliterated in seconds.



    wag the dog
    Exactly. The dude isn't suicidal and he wants to stay in power. 
    I don't think he is suicidal, but I do think that he's a drunk kid with an ego that the Kardashions couldn't even imagine.   Add a Clown to the mix and now you have two of dumbest leaders (that have nukes) squaring off.  

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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 8,971
    edited August 2017
    Nukes


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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 10,637
    Still afraid of the little fat guy with a bad haircut, I see? Still perpetrating some kind of myth on us all. Mueller.
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    Still afraid of the little fat guy with a bad haircut, I see? Still perpetrating some kind of myth on us all. Mueller.
    "Drilling for fear makes the job simple."  Having an easy  mark like Jong-un to promote that fear makes it even easier.

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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 8,971
     

    North Korea’s entire nuclear stockpiles consist of 60 nuclear weapons, compared with 6,970 owned by the US, out of which 1,750 are operational.

    To place these numbers in a global perspective, there are an estimated 15,000 nuclear weapons, worldwide.

    While the North Koreans require a sixth successful test to put a nuclear warhead on an intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBM), the US had conducting 1,030 such nuclear tests, starting in July 1945.

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/08/24/nuclear-apocalypse-trump-and-kim-should-not-hold-the-world-hostage/

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 10,637
    edited August 2017
    JC29856 said:
     

    North Korea’s entire nuclear stockpiles consist of 60 nuclear weapons, compared with 6,970 owned by the US, out of which 1,750 are operational.

    To place these numbers in a global perspective, there are an estimated 15,000 nuclear weapons, worldwide.

    While the North Koreans require a sixth successful test to put a nuclear warhead on an intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBM), the US had conducting 1,030 such nuclear tests, starting in July 1945.

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/08/24/nuclear-apocalypse-trump-and-kim-should-not-hold-the-world-hostage/

    Woooooooooooah! No way! Fake news. No talk of Russia and their stockpiles? Why not? They did fly over the Koreas today with nuke bombers. Be afraid, be very afraid. Trump only has one card left to play to avoid impeachment. Take your pick of dogs to wag. The shitzu of Korea? Maybe it's the saluki of Iraq? The lurcher of Iran? Or maybe it'll be the Canaan of Syria? Or how about the Ukrainian ovcharka? And everyone's favorite, the Afghan hound?

    3D, D'ing.
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 8,971
    JC29856 said:
     

    North Korea’s entire nuclear stockpiles consist of 60 nuclear weapons, compared with 6,970 owned by the US, out of which 1,750 are operational.

    To place these numbers in a global perspective, there are an estimated 15,000 nuclear weapons, worldwide.

    While the North Koreans require a sixth successful test to put a nuclear warhead on an intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBM), the US had conducting 1,030 such nuclear tests, starting in July 1945.

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/08/24/nuclear-apocalypse-trump-and-kim-should-not-hold-the-world-hostage/

    Woooooooooooah! No way! Fake news. No talk of Russia and their stockpiles? Why not? They did fly over the Koreas today with nuke bombers. Be afraid, be very afraid. Trump only has one card left to play to avoid impeachment. Take your pick of dogs to wag. The shitzu of Korea? Maybe it's the saluki of Iraq? The lurcher of Iran? Or maybe it'll be the Canaan of Syria? Or how about the Ukrainian ovcharka? And everyone's favorite, the Afghan hound?

    3D, D'ing.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/10/31/collapse-north-korea-nuclear-test-site-leaves-200-dead/
    As many as 200 North Korean labourers have been killed after a mine shaft being dug at the regime's nuclear test site collapsed, according to Japan's Asahi TV.

    US involvement? Maybe KJU can blame us and escalate nuclear war?
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  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ONPosts: 6,963
    JC29856 said:
    JC29856 said:
     

    North Korea’s entire nuclear stockpiles consist of 60 nuclear weapons, compared with 6,970 owned by the US, out of which 1,750 are operational.

    To place these numbers in a global perspective, there are an estimated 15,000 nuclear weapons, worldwide.

    While the North Koreans require a sixth successful test to put a nuclear warhead on an intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBM), the US had conducting 1,030 such nuclear tests, starting in July 1945.

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/08/24/nuclear-apocalypse-trump-and-kim-should-not-hold-the-world-hostage/

    Woooooooooooah! No way! Fake news. No talk of Russia and their stockpiles? Why not? They did fly over the Koreas today with nuke bombers. Be afraid, be very afraid. Trump only has one card left to play to avoid impeachment. Take your pick of dogs to wag. The shitzu of Korea? Maybe it's the saluki of Iraq? The lurcher of Iran? Or maybe it'll be the Canaan of Syria? Or how about the Ukrainian ovcharka? And everyone's favorite, the Afghan hound?

    3D, D'ing.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/10/31/collapse-north-korea-nuclear-test-site-leaves-200-dead/
    As many as 200 North Korean labourers have been killed after a mine shaft being dug at the regime's nuclear test site collapsed, according to Japan's Asahi TV.

    US involvement? Maybe KJU can blame us and escalate nuclear war?
    Is this sarcasm or your honest opinion on what likely transpired? In any case, what is one to learn from your post?
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  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via ChicagoPosts: 3,341
    benjs said:
    JC29856 said:
    JC29856 said:
     

    North Korea’s entire nuclear stockpiles consist of 60 nuclear weapons, compared with 6,970 owned by the US, out of which 1,750 are operational.

    To place these numbers in a global perspective, there are an estimated 15,000 nuclear weapons, worldwide.

    While the North Koreans require a sixth successful test to put a nuclear warhead on an intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBM), the US had conducting 1,030 such nuclear tests, starting in July 1945.

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/08/24/nuclear-apocalypse-trump-and-kim-should-not-hold-the-world-hostage/

    Woooooooooooah! No way! Fake news. No talk of Russia and their stockpiles? Why not? They did fly over the Koreas today with nuke bombers. Be afraid, be very afraid. Trump only has one card left to play to avoid impeachment. Take your pick of dogs to wag. The shitzu of Korea? Maybe it's the saluki of Iraq? The lurcher of Iran? Or maybe it'll be the Canaan of Syria? Or how about the Ukrainian ovcharka? And everyone's favorite, the Afghan hound?

    3D, D'ing.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/10/31/collapse-north-korea-nuclear-test-site-leaves-200-dead/
    As many as 200 North Korean labourers have been killed after a mine shaft being dug at the regime's nuclear test site collapsed, according to Japan's Asahi TV.

    US involvement? Maybe KJU can blame us and escalate nuclear war?
    Is this sarcasm or your honest opinion on what likely transpired? In any case, what is one to learn from your post?

    the only thing JC is peddling is fear uncertainty and doubt

    deny, deflect & distract

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  • CM189191 said:
    benjs said:
    JC29856 said:
    JC29856 said:
     

    North Korea’s entire nuclear stockpiles consist of 60 nuclear weapons, compared with 6,970 owned by the US, out of which 1,750 are operational.

    To place these numbers in a global perspective, there are an estimated 15,000 nuclear weapons, worldwide.

    While the North Koreans require a sixth successful test to put a nuclear warhead on an intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBM), the US had conducting 1,030 such nuclear tests, starting in July 1945.

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/08/24/nuclear-apocalypse-trump-and-kim-should-not-hold-the-world-hostage/

    Woooooooooooah! No way! Fake news. No talk of Russia and their stockpiles? Why not? They did fly over the Koreas today with nuke bombers. Be afraid, be very afraid. Trump only has one card left to play to avoid impeachment. Take your pick of dogs to wag. The shitzu of Korea? Maybe it's the saluki of Iraq? The lurcher of Iran? Or maybe it'll be the Canaan of Syria? Or how about the Ukrainian ovcharka? And everyone's favorite, the Afghan hound?

    3D, D'ing.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/10/31/collapse-north-korea-nuclear-test-site-leaves-200-dead/
    As many as 200 North Korean labourers have been killed after a mine shaft being dug at the regime's nuclear test site collapsed, according to Japan's Asahi TV.

    US involvement? Maybe KJU can blame us and escalate nuclear war?
    Is this sarcasm or your honest opinion on what likely transpired? In any case, what is one to learn from your post?

    the only thing JC is peddling is fear uncertainty and doubt

    deny, deflect & distract

    spinspinspin
    3D, D'ing? You don't say? Anything to take the attention away from Trump? A pizza menu perhaps? A napkin and a map? 

    http://community.pearljam.com/discussion/261556/podesta-emails-part-2/p1

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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 12,570
    wish I had a clue as to what 3D, D'ing fucking means. it's mentioned in every third or fourth Trump-related post. 
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 8,971
    oh boy, this is potentially a triple treble hook trigger fish!!!!!
    Russian ties!

    “We know that North Korea wants above all to talk to the United States about guarantees for its security. We are ready to support that, we are ready to take part in facilitating such negotiations,” Lavrov said at an international conference in Vienna, according to the Interfax news agency. “Our American colleagues, [including] Rex Tillerson, have heard this.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/dec/07/north-korea-ready-direct-talks-us-sergei-lavrov
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  • Lavrov? The Russian? The guy who works for Putin? We should take advice from him? Oh wait, Team Trump Treason already has and does. Never mind. And who goes to Vienna anyway? Do they have Big Macs and Fishwiches there?
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 21,728
    Talking is fine, I hope they do some of that.  But then let's start trading with them things like LPs, CDs, music downloads, dance steps, climbing techniques, cartoons, painting and sculpture,  architectural drawings, photo journals,  cinema, wood carvings, beading and jewelry, all sorts of fabric arts, poetry!, eating traditions and of course earwax (PB, that one's for you!). 

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