PJ/EV address HOF/drummers

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  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWestPosts: 11,013
    #DrummerDrama
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  • rival9500rival9500 Posts: 360
    "I'll go now."

    ~Dave A. 2 hours before the show.
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  • TroubledSoulTroubledSoul Posts: 1,330
    good PR stunt by the band
    Yeh I've seen Pearl Jam, too. But I can't remember the dates.
  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 2,573
    lol. After all that whining.
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 2,643

    good PR stunt by the band

    Seriously?

  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWestPosts: 11,013
    P.R. stunt by the band.
    Eddie could get him inducted with a phone call, guaranteed.
    The band knew he couldn't make it, that's why they invited him.

    These are all Dave A "hot takes" I've read either here or on Facebook in the last 12 hours.
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  • ZodZod Posts: 5,141
    It reminds me a little of the Steven Adler thing from GNR. Instead of bringing him out on tour gets to show up to a few shows and play a song. He really wants to tour, but that's all he gets.

    It's probably the same for Dave A. He wants to be inducted and feels that he was a significant part of the bands legacy. Instead of being inducted he gets invited to sit at a table and watch everyone else get inducted?

    It's nice the band invited him to attend, but it's not the same thing.
  • TroubledSoulTroubledSoul Posts: 1,330

    good PR stunt by the band

    Seriously?
    yep. seriously.

    the whole saga is a farce.
    Yeh I've seen Pearl Jam, too. But I can't remember the dates.
  • cp3iversoncp3iverson Posts: 3,215
    Apparently the Foos wanted Dave A included. Taylor and Grohl.
    ISO:  2010 Hartford AP
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 2,643

    good PR stunt by the band

    Seriously?
    yep. seriously.

    the whole saga is a farce.
    how so?

  • CW55354CW55354 Posts: 90
    Pearl Jam has no control of who gets inducted. If a simple phone call was all it took, KISS would have inducted more members. Gene Simmons couldn't convince them. Same with many other bands. If there is one thing that is consistent about the HOF, it's pissing inductees off. Whether it's which members get inducted, who inducts them or even how many tickets the bands get to the ceremony, the HOF is very unyielding. Pearl Jam did the only thing they could by inviting all drummers and acknowledging their contribution. Dave said the band should "do the right thing" and I agreed with that request when he made it (though he was whiny about it.) Pearl Jam stepped up, only for Dave to smack them back down. Just shows Dave probably wasn't as innocent in the whole firing scenario as he wants everyone to believe. He should now keep his mouth shut about it.
  • NewJPageNewJPage Posts: 2,185
    CW55354 said:

    Pearl Jam has no control of who gets inducted. If a simple phone call was all it took, KISS would have inducted more members. Gene Simmons couldn't convince them. Same with many other bands. If there is one thing that is consistent about the HOF, it's pissing inductees off. Whether it's which members get inducted, who inducts them or even how many tickets the bands get to the ceremony, the HOF is very unyielding. Pearl Jam did the only thing they could by inviting all drummers and acknowledging their contribution. Dave said the band should "do the right thing" and I agreed with that request when he made it (though he was whiny about it.) Pearl Jam stepped up, only for Dave to smack them back down. Just shows Dave probably wasn't as innocent in the whole firing scenario as he wants everyone to believe. He should now keep his mouth shut about it.

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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 5,803

    Apparently the Foos wanted Dave A included. Taylor and Grohl.

    ?
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  • MP188882MP188882 Posts: 34
    FYI - The report about Dave A not attending the RRHOF ceremony has been retracted and is now 404'd. As of 48 minutes ago on FB to the "Pearl Jam Ten Club Members" group:

    "BlastEcho regrets to inform Pearl Jam fans that the story about former member Dave Abbruzzese not agreeing to participate at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony in April is FALSE. BlastEcho apologizes to Mr. Abbruzzese, Pearl Jam fans and anyone else who was misled by this story. The intent was never "fake news," but rather the result of being duped by someone posing as Mr. Abbruzzese. Our deepest apologies."
    MP
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  • green_girlgreen_girl Posts: 913
    That's an admirable note. Good for them for doing the right thing! I hope everyone has a great night at the ceremony.
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 2,643
    So much drama

  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 5,803
    MP188882 said:

    FYI - The report about Dave A not attending the RRHOF ceremony has been retracted and is now 404'd. As of 48 minutes ago on FB to the "Pearl Jam Ten Club Members" group:

    "BlastEcho regrets to inform Pearl Jam fans that the story about former member Dave Abbruzzese not agreeing to participate at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony in April is FALSE. BlastEcho apologizes to Mr. Abbruzzese, Pearl Jam fans and anyone else who was misled by this story. The intent was never "fake news," but rather the result of being duped by someone posing as Mr. Abbruzzese. Our deepest apologies."


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  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 9,474
    None of us know the real details about what happened with Dave A. and Pearl Jam but I'd venture a guess he got screwed, and getting screwed out of 20 years of touring and $$$ would make me livid until the day I die.
  • NewJPageNewJPage Posts: 2,185

    None of us know the real details about what happened with Dave A. and Pearl Jam but I'd venture a guess he got screwed, and getting screwed out of 20 years of touring and $$$ would make me livid until the day I die.

    One could argue he's getting screwed on hof, but how is he getting screwed by not being in the band?
    6/26/98, 8/17/00, 10/8/00, 12/8/02, 12/9/02, 4/25/03, 5/28/03, 6/1/03, 6/3/03, 6/5/03, 6/6/03, 6/12/03, 6/13/03, 6/15/03, 6/18/03, 6/21/03, 6/22/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03, 10/3/04, 10/5/04, 9/9/05, 9/11/05, 9/16/05, 5/16/06, 5/17/06, 5/19/06, 6/30/06, 7/23/06, 8/5/07, 6/30/08, 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 5/4/10, 5/7/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 5,803
    NewJPage said:

    None of us know the real details about what happened with Dave A. and Pearl Jam but I'd venture a guess he got screwed, and getting screwed out of 20 years of touring and $$$ would make me livid until the day I die.

    One could argue he's getting screwed on hof, but how is he getting screwed by not being in the band?
    Getting screwed out of drumming the shit out of Olé maybe.
    The man they call my enemy. I've seen his eyes, he looks just like me - A mirror...
  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 9,474
    NewJPage said:

    None of us know the real details about what happened with Dave A. and Pearl Jam but I'd venture a guess he got screwed, and getting screwed out of 20 years of touring and $$$ would make me livid until the day I die.

    One could argue he's getting screwed on hof, but how is he getting screwed by not being in the band?
    If it was a b.s. reason for being fired (i.e., Ed wanted Jack all along) then I would be pissed. I do not know the reasons though.
  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam NINUNINOPROPosts: 133,699

    None of us know the real details about what happened with Dave A. and Pearl Jam but I'd venture a guess he got screwed, and getting screwed out of 20 years of touring and $$$ would make me livid until the day I die.

    what need to know?,,their success today speaks for it self..they made the right calls 27 years now and become one of the best bands of all times..
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  • NewJPageNewJPage Posts: 2,185

    NewJPage said:

    None of us know the real details about what happened with Dave A. and Pearl Jam but I'd venture a guess he got screwed, and getting screwed out of 20 years of touring and $$$ would make me livid until the day I die.

    One could argue he's getting screwed on hof, but how is he getting screwed by not being in the band?
    If it was a b.s. reason for being fired (i.e., Ed wanted Jack all along) then I would be pissed. I do not know the reasons though.
    Anyone can get fired from any job for any reason (aside from the few protected reasons...gender, religion, etc). He was not screwed. 4 guys wanted him fired. Doesn't really matter why
    6/26/98, 8/17/00, 10/8/00, 12/8/02, 12/9/02, 4/25/03, 5/28/03, 6/1/03, 6/3/03, 6/5/03, 6/6/03, 6/12/03, 6/13/03, 6/15/03, 6/18/03, 6/21/03, 6/22/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03, 10/3/04, 10/5/04, 9/9/05, 9/11/05, 9/16/05, 5/16/06, 5/17/06, 5/19/06, 6/30/06, 7/23/06, 8/5/07, 6/30/08, 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 5/4/10, 5/7/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 9,248

    NewJPage said:

    None of us know the real details about what happened with Dave A. and Pearl Jam but I'd venture a guess he got screwed, and getting screwed out of 20 years of touring and $$$ would make me livid until the day I die.

    One could argue he's getting screwed on hof, but how is he getting screwed by not being in the band?
    If it was a b.s. reason for being fired (i.e., Ed wanted Jack all along) then I would be pissed. I do not know the reasons though.
    That's not "getting screwed", that's not making yourself indispensable.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWestPosts: 11,013
    NewJPage said:

    NewJPage said:

    None of us know the real details about what happened with Dave A. and Pearl Jam but I'd venture a guess he got screwed, and getting screwed out of 20 years of touring and $$$ would make me livid until the day I die.

    One could argue he's getting screwed on hof, but how is he getting screwed by not being in the band?
    If it was a b.s. reason for being fired (i.e., Ed wanted Jack all along) then I would be pissed. I do not know the reasons though.
    Anyone can get fired from any job for any reason (aside from the few protected reasons...gender, religion, etc). He was not screwed. 4 guys wanted him fired. Doesn't really matter why
    I bet it matters why to Dave.
    ___________________________________________

    "...I changed by not changing at all..."
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 2,643

    None of us know the real details about what happened with Dave A. and Pearl Jam but I'd venture a guess he got screwed, and getting screwed out of 20 years of touring and $$$ would make me livid until the day I die.

    what need to know?,,their success today speaks for it self..they made the right calls 27 years now and become one of the best bands of all times..
    Yeah, but that stickman tattoo.........

  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 5,803

    None of us know the real details about what happened with Dave A. and Pearl Jam but I'd venture a guess he got screwed, and getting screwed out of 20 years of touring and $$$ would make me livid until the day I die.

    what need to know?,,their success today speaks for it self..they made the right calls 27 years now and become one of the best bands of all times..
    Confirmation bias.
    The man they call my enemy. I've seen his eyes, he looks just like me - A mirror...
  • ZodZod Posts: 5,141
    edited March 13
    CW55354 said:

    Pearl Jam has no control of who gets inducted. If a simple phone call was all it took, KISS would have inducted more members. Gene Simmons couldn't convince them. Same with many other bands. If there is one thing that is consistent about the HOF, it's pissing inductees off. Whether it's which members get inducted, who inducts them or even how many tickets the bands get to the ceremony, the HOF is very unyielding. Pearl Jam did the only thing they could by inviting all drummers and acknowledging their contribution. Dave said the band should "do the right thing" and I agreed with that request when he made it (though he was whiny about it.) Pearl Jam stepped up, only for Dave to smack them back down. Just shows Dave probably wasn't as innocent in the whole firing scenario as he wants everyone to believe. He should now keep his mouth shut about it.

    Honestly. It's Pearl Jam. The band who tried to boycott Ticketmaster by doing an entire tour without Ticketmaster. The band who boycotted an entire state (cancelling a show) because they didn't believe in a specific state law. If the band believes enough in the cause there is something they can do about it. The thing is they fired Dave A., so obviously it's not something they believe in enough to take more drastic measures.
    Post edited by Zod on
  • NewJPageNewJPage Posts: 2,185
    JimmyV said:

    NewJPage said:

    NewJPage said:

    None of us know the real details about what happened with Dave A. and Pearl Jam but I'd venture a guess he got screwed, and getting screwed out of 20 years of touring and $$$ would make me livid until the day I die.

    One could argue he's getting screwed on hof, but how is he getting screwed by not being in the band?
    If it was a b.s. reason for being fired (i.e., Ed wanted Jack all along) then I would be pissed. I do not know the reasons though.
    Anyone can get fired from any job for any reason (aside from the few protected reasons...gender, religion, etc). He was not screwed. 4 guys wanted him fired. Doesn't really matter why
    I bet it matters why to Dave.
    I'm sure it does. But that doesn't mean he's getting screwed
    6/26/98, 8/17/00, 10/8/00, 12/8/02, 12/9/02, 4/25/03, 5/28/03, 6/1/03, 6/3/03, 6/5/03, 6/6/03, 6/12/03, 6/13/03, 6/15/03, 6/18/03, 6/21/03, 6/22/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03, 10/3/04, 10/5/04, 9/9/05, 9/11/05, 9/16/05, 5/16/06, 5/17/06, 5/19/06, 6/30/06, 7/23/06, 8/5/07, 6/30/08, 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 5/4/10, 5/7/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11
  • RunIntoTheRainRunIntoTheRain TexasPosts: 470
    How about we resist the urge to speculate about something that happened over 20 years ago since none of us know shit about it?
    Be nice if this thread didn't have to be closed.
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