Russia's Influence On The American Election

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  • JC29856 said:
    James liar under oath Clapper trying to subvert democracy over conspiracy theory.

    https://bigleaguepolitics.com/sources-clapper-discussed-using-supreme-court-justice-block-trumps-inauguration/
    Oooooooooooo, a conspiracy theory? You don't say?
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 7,570
    JC29856 said:
    James liar under oath Clapper trying to subvert democracy over conspiracy theory.

    https://bigleaguepolitics.com/sources-clapper-discussed-using-supreme-court-justice-block-trumps-inauguration/
    Oooooooooooo, a conspiracy theory? You don't say?
    This is just a bridge too far.  James Clapper should lose his job immediately, followed by impeachment proceedings.  We cannot stand for someone holding a meeting, with an accompanying recommendation.  There are limits to what is allowed in this country.  
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 8,255
    (And these questions can be re-phrased and asked about 90% of what you asked)
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 8,740
    edited September 10
    I prefer this story, one 3D helped promulgate, breathlessly at times.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/global-opinions/wp/2017/09/08/the-case-for-trump-russia-collusion-were-getting-very-very-close/?undefined=&utm_term=.b0bf559d5842&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1

    We know what happened next: The fake stories, memes and slogans moved from the network of Russian-sponsored “American” accounts into the networks of real Americans. Some, such as “pizzagate,” the theory that Hillary Clinton was part of a pedophile ring being run out of Washington pizza parlor, got a lot of attention. Others, such as the theory that Barack Obama founded the Islamic State, or the theory that the Google search engine was working on Clinton’s behalf, got less attention but were notable for another reason: They were not only promoted on the fake Russian network, which bought advertising in order to push them further, but also were promoted on open Russian news networks, including the Sputnik English-language news services. Afterwards, they were repeated, also openly, by candidate Trump.

    But for those who want something more, do be aware that circumstantial evidence of Russian collusion with his campaign is already available. And direct evidence is getting very, very close.

    Post edited by Halifax2TheMax on
  • So much for those brilliantly disappearing headlines of brilliance and the non-story losing steam and fading away into the brilliant abyss of brilliantly disappearing headlines.

  • I prefer this story, one 3D helped promulgate, breathlessly at times.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/global-opinions/wp/2017/09/08/the-case-for-trump-russia-collusion-were-getting-very-very-close/?undefined=&utm_term=.b0bf559d5842&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1



    I still believe, as I’ve been writing for months, that Trump’s sympathy for Russian President Vladimir Putin, a cynicial and vicious dictator, should, by itself, have eliminated him from U.S. politics. Nothing else that we will ever learn about him makes him more unqualified to be president of the United States.
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 8,255
    Robert Mueller covering for the Saudis 911 investigation.

    https://harpers.org/blog/2017/09/crime-and-punishment/
    (And these questions can be re-phrased and asked about 90% of what you asked)
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 8,255
    edited September 12
    I prefer this story, one 3D helped promulgate, breathlessly at times.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/global-opinions/wp/2017/09/08/the-case-for-trump-russia-collusion-were-getting-very-very-close/?undefined=&utm_term=.b0bf559d5842&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1



    I still believe, as I’ve been writing for months, that Trump’s sympathy for Russian President Vladimir Putin, a cynicial and vicious dictator, should, by itself, have eliminated him from U.S. politics. Nothing else that we will ever learn about him makes him more unqualified to be president of the United States.


    (And these questions can be re-phrased and asked about 90% of what you asked)
  • JC29856 said:
    I prefer this story, one 3D helped promulgate, breathlessly at times.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/global-opinions/wp/2017/09/08/the-case-for-trump-russia-collusion-were-getting-very-very-close/?undefined=&utm_term=.b0bf559d5842&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1



    I still believe, as I’ve been writing for months, that Trump’s sympathy for Russian President Vladimir Putin, a cynicial and vicious dictator, should, by itself, have eliminated him from U.S. politics. Nothing else that we will ever learn about him makes him more unqualified to be president of the United States.


    New menu out?
  • Somebody's got some 'splainin to do and they ain't doin it, yo! Follow the money from Russia with love and a PTape, all the way to impeachment. 7Xs.

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/12/politics/michael-flynn-senate-subpoena-refusal/index.html
  • Gee, I wonder if trump had Russian interference in our elections brought up as an "irritant?"

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/13/politics/russia-us-state-department/index.html
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 8,663
    Gee, I wonder if trump had Russian interference in our elections brought up as an "irritant?"

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/13/politics/russia-us-state-department/index.html
    Wrong!

    The irritant is the fake media and their fake stories!
    hippiemom = goodness
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 8,255
    Kim K social media showed the Kremlin how to influence elections.

    https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/09/13/magazine/rt-sputnik-and-russias-new-theory-of-war.html
    (And these questions can be re-phrased and asked about 90% of what you asked)
  • dignindignin Posts: 5,099

    Trump ethics watchdog moves to allow anonymous gifts to legal defense funds

    In a reversal of internal policy, the Office of Government Ethics says funds benefiting aides caught up in Russia probes may accept anonymous gifts from lobbyists.



    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/13/trump-ethics-watchdog-legal-defense-242690
  • dignin said:

    Trump ethics watchdog moves to allow anonymous gifts to legal defense funds

    In a reversal of internal policy, the Office of Government Ethics says funds benefiting aides caught up in Russia probes may accept anonymous gifts from lobbyists.



    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/13/trump-ethics-watchdog-legal-defense-242690
    If there is no "there" there, why do you need to change the rules regarding anonymous, maybe Julien Asstrange will "leak" the donors, contributions to legal defense funds? Riddle me that 3D.
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 8,255
    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/14/paul-manafort-jason-maloni-testify-grand-jury-242737

    Trump Putin collusion to Trump campaign associates public relations spokesman business dealings in Russia collusion with Russians

    (And these questions can be re-phrased and asked about 90% of what you asked)
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 7,570
    JC29856 said:
    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/14/paul-manafort-jason-maloni-testify-grand-jury-242737

    Trump Putin collusion to Trump campaign associates public relations spokesman business dealings in Russia collusion with Russians

    I'll buy a comma for $200, Alex.
  • Some money laundering activity via Inaugural events? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm..........

    http://diffuser.fm/trump-inauguration-budget-107-million/?utm_source=sailthru&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=newsletter_5003207

    Four sources in the Trump camp told the Associated Press that the show cost $25 million to stage, and that the inaugural festivities raised a total of $107 million. By contrast, Steve Kerrigan, the head of Obama’s inaugural committee, revealed that the A-list celebrity-fueled show cost less than $5 million. “I couldn’t tell you how we possibly could have spent $25 million on a concert,” he said.

    Obama raised $53 million, half that of Trump, although the celebration sold 10,000 tickets — twice the amount sold for the Trump event — and had HBO paying for the rights to broadcast it. However, Trump likely raised more money because Obama — and George W. Bush before him — set a limit on personal donations towards covering costs, while Trump allowed unlimited personal donations and set a cap of $1 million on corporate donations.

    Trump’s committee had pledged to donate any surplus funds to charity but the AP report says that, as of now, the money has only gone to redecorating the White House and the vice president’s residence. Trump’s committee head, Tom Barrack, said earlier this year that “a full and clean external audit has been conducted and completed” but that the money wouldn’t be distributed until November. However, sources told the AP that they were unaware of any such audit, and one added, “They blew out their budgets on so many things.”

    “The thing about inaugural expenses, they’re not complicated,” Kerrigan said. “You take money in, you pay it out, and then you know what you’re left with when it’s done.”



    Read More: $107 Million for 3 Doors Down and Toby Keith? Donald Trump's Inauguration Budget Raises Questions | http://diffuser.fm/trump-inauguration-budget-107-million/?utm_source=sailthru&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=newsletter_5003207&trackback=tsmclip


    Follow the money, from Russia with love and a PTape, all the way to impeachment. 7Xs.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BCPosts: 36,750
    mrussel1 said:
    JC29856 said:
    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/14/paul-manafort-jason-maloni-testify-grand-jury-242737

    Trump Putin collusion to Trump campaign associates public relations spokesman business dealings in Russia collusion with Russians

    I'll buy a comma for $200, Alex.
    I think you need to ask Pat. :lol:
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 8,255

    Comey knew trump was being spied on via his close circle otherwise why add the "directed at him"

    He also disputed Mr Trump's wiretapping claims.

    "With respect to the president's tweets about alleged wiretapping directed at him by the prior administration, I have no information that supports those tweets, and we have looked carefully inside the FBI," he told the panel.



    (And these questions can be re-phrased and asked about 90% of what you asked)
  • JC29856 said:

    Comey knew trump was being spied on via his close circle otherwise why add the "directed at him"

    He also disputed Mr Trump's wiretapping claims.

    "With respect to the president's tweets about alleged wiretapping directed at him by the prior administration, I have no information that supports those tweets, and we have looked carefully inside the FBI," he told the panel.



    Trump wasn't the "original" target but became one via Manafort and possibly by what was discussed. Why is that so difficult for you to understand. I'm ready for the 4th Estate spin.

    Follow the money, from Russia with love to a always has been and forever will be corrupt Trump, all the way to impeachment. 7Xs.
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 8,255
    JC29856 said:

    Comey knew trump was being spied on via his close circle otherwise why add the "directed at him"

    He also disputed Mr Trump's wiretapping claims.

    "With respect to the president's tweets about alleged wiretapping directed at him by the prior administration, I have no information that supports those tweets, and we have looked carefully inside the FBI," he told the panel.



    Trump wasn't the "original" target but became one via Manafort and possibly by what was discussed. Why is that so difficult for you to understand. I'm ready for the 4th Estate spin.

    Follow the money, from Russia with love to a always has been and forever will be corrupt Trump, all the way to impeachment. 7Xs.
    likely false if omitted

    "With respect to the president's tweets about alleged wiretapping by the prior administration, I have no information that supports those tweets, and we have looked carefully inside the FBI," he told the panel.


    (And these questions can be re-phrased and asked about 90% of what you asked)
  • JC29856 said:
    JC29856 said:

    Comey knew trump was being spied on via his close circle otherwise why add the "directed at him"

    He also disputed Mr Trump's wiretapping claims.

    "With respect to the president's tweets about alleged wiretapping directed at him by the prior administration, I have no information that supports those tweets, and we have looked carefully inside the FBI," he told the panel.



    Trump wasn't the "original" target but became one via Manafort and possibly by what was discussed. Why is that so difficult for you to understand. I'm ready for the 4th Estate spin.

    Follow the money, from Russia with love to a always has been and forever will be corrupt Trump, all the way to impeachment. 7Xs.
    likely false if omitted

    "With respect to the president's tweets about alleged wiretapping by the prior administration, I have no information that supports those tweets, and we have looked carefully inside the FBI," he told the panel.


    I'm sure the republican controlled congress will begin an investigation into possible collusion between Hillary's campaign and Comey's FBI in wiretapping trump Tower. Keep beating those dead horses.
  • The JugglerThe Juggler To your left.Posts: 28,292
    JC29856 said:

    Comey knew trump was being spied on via his close circle otherwise why add the "directed at him"

    He also disputed Mr Trump's wiretapping claims.

    "With respect to the president's tweets about alleged wiretapping directed at him by the prior administration, I have no information that supports those tweets, and we have looked carefully inside the FBI," he told the panel.



    Trump wasn't the "original" target but became one via Manafort and possibly by what was discussed. Why is that so difficult for you to understand. I'm ready for the 4th Estate spin.

    Follow the money, from Russia with love to a always has been and forever will be corrupt Trump, all the way to impeachment. 7Xs.
    Stop! You're interrupting him from predictably muddying up the waters on this issue.
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  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWestPosts: 10,912
    If Obama claimed George W. Bush had wiretapped him and we later learned David Plouffe was the subject of a long-running FBI investigation, I wouldn't have died on a hill arguing that somehow proved Obama right.
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  • dignindignin Posts: 5,099
    JimmyV said:
    If Obama claimed George W. Bush had wiretapped him and we later learned David Plouffe was the subject of a long-running FBI investigation, I wouldn't have died on a hill arguing that somehow proved Obama right.
    Yeah, but you're not completely full of shit.
  • Difference is, Trump and company know their guilty but they don't know what their guilty of. 7Xs.
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 8,255
    I'll help with those that have bumps on their heads even thou it was already posted twice, MY issue is "Comey knew trump was being spied on" and added the phrase "directed at him" for cover. Why add that phrase (see above for context with it omitted)? Trump tweet referred to my "wires tapped" in Trump Tower, without mentioning it being directed at him. Both Trump and Comey were very careful with their words.

    Anyway now back to regular deprogramming
     Congressman Dana Rohrabacher, R-California
    “I’m up against an array of very powerful forces, including the intelligence services and major newspapers … all of whom confirmed a major lie that was being used for political purposes and a lie that was repeated and repeated in order to undercut our new president….You’ve got people who are obviously just trying to cover their ass for mistakes they have made. They will probably do their best to keep Trump from knowing about this and knowing about his options to expose this.”


    (And these questions can be re-phrased and asked about 90% of what you asked)
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 11,013
    you have an issue with a direct, true, statement? 
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