Why are we working ourselves to death?‏

Pap
Pap Serres, Greece Posts: 29,969
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Why are we working ourselves to death?
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  • 23scidoo
    23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,989
    Because we are suckers and we sleeping on two legs..
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  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    because I need money.
  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    I would say 75% of my daily stress comes from my job. It's not healthy, but I refer to my first post.
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    I'm not working myself to death. I'm working myself to live. I enjoy my job and being productive.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • shetellsherself
    shetellsherself New Jersey Posts: 8,835
    Because productivity makes as feel more alive than sitting around doing nothing. Wait... So then what makes us feel alive is actually killing us?
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  • Pap
    Pap Serres, Greece Posts: 29,969
    edited February 2014
    The question is why we work this way and not why we want to have a job. I guess all of you do not have a problem working overtime (sometimes even without getting paid). Hey chief, we found some test rats over here... Productivity is not about quantity, but quality.
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  • riotgrl
    riotgrl LOUISVILLE Posts: 1,895
    For all the 'improvements' we've made over the past 150 years, it does seem like we've gone backwards a bit. I love my job and I love being productive but I definitely have started to think that the way we live today is all wrong. We are working ourselves to death for money because we need money because we created this system that does nothing to nurture us that does nothing but require ever greater demands on our time, away from our family.
    Are we getting something out of this all-encompassing trip?

    Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...

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  • SPEEDY MCCREADY
    SPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 26,880
    Why do I work?

    Lets see, because running around naked, and eating dirt, doesnt really appeal to me.
    And sitting in my sweatpants, and living in my parents basement, mooching food? Well, that got old 30 years ago.
    But the biggest reason why I work?
    Because I ran out of shit to FLIP on ebay!
    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwuc5k-LKFU
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  • shetellsherself
    shetellsherself New Jersey Posts: 8,835
    SPEEDY MCCREADY said:


    But the biggest reason why I work?
    Because I ran out of shit to FLIP on ebay!

    =)) <<<I wish this guy could laugh without rolling on the ground bc it's funny but not THAT funny. It's nice to have the speedy perspective around here. Maybe AET will come back to life a bit

    Anyway...as part of my job I work daily with people who have lost the ability to be productive in the manner they have become accustomed to either due to severe illness, stroke, brain injury, injury etc.... These people often become depressed and lose their sense of purpose. They have to learn to define themselves differently, to find new roles to play. They have to find new purpose or occupation. That's not easy. If you are fortunate enough to find an occupation (whether it's your paying job, a creative hobby, caregiving for someone else, whatever) that you enjoy and gives you purpose then you are a fortunate person for sure. Striving for that purpose and definition of self is why we work so hard
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  • Pap
    Pap Serres, Greece Posts: 29,969
    Stone Gossard: The fact that we don't work so hard all the time... That we really... We work just enough to really keep us excited about what work is... Making records and then going doing some touring and then... Being able to get into that process... We're like dreaming about a record, then making it, doing artwork for it, doing some shows, learning those songs, having some of the songs become part of our, sort of, history and then the ones that people love and... We do that in a way that we don't... We don't kill ourselves and we work enough that it really feels that it's not work... It feels like... It's still... We're sort of in this dream that we can... You know... Even you can't believe, or you're actually able to kind of do what you want to do and sort of that it's sustaining us, but it's sustaining our friends and our family that... You know... And the people that work here... So, I think by not killing ourselves every time we do it, I think that's helped us maintain a certain freshness about it...
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  • Annafalk
    Annafalk Sweden Posts: 4,004
    That sounds great what Stone is saying in that interview above!
    I think it's optimal if we can work about 75 % and not full time, with something meaningful. But as always money is the big issue..


  • Dru_Cortez
    Dru_Cortez Posts: 953
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    That's why!
    Cheers.
    'Cause you don't give blood and take it back again.
  • Pap
    Pap Serres, Greece Posts: 29,969
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21j_OCNLuYg
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  • whispering hands
    whispering hands Under your skin Posts: 13,527
    http://youtu.be/lAD6Obi7Cag
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,693
    edited March 2015
    North Americans in particular seem to have a real problem with this. Many other cultures seem to have a MUCH better grasp of what makes life happy. Americans (and to some extent Canadians) seem to be way too focused on defining their lives, themselves, their success in life, on power and salary, and even just work-related bragging rights (i.e. I work 80 a week, I am so great!). And they tend to judge others based on that way too much as well.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • oceaninmyeyes
    oceaninmyeyes Posts: 4,646
    ^^^ :yin_yang:
    And the sun it may be shining . . . but there's an ocean in my eyes
  • FoxyRedLa
    FoxyRedLa Lauren / MI Posts: 4,810
    PJ_Soul said:

    North Americans in particular seem to have a real problem with this. Many other cultures seem to have a MUCH better grasp of what makes life happy. Americans (and to some extent Canadians) seem to be way too focused on defining their lives, themselves, their success in life, on power and salary, and even just work-related bragging rights (i.e. I work 80 a week, I am so great!). And they tend to judge others based on that way too much as well.

    The rat race is only a NA race? I work for the man but only until the moment I can retire :lol:
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  • northerndragon
    northerndragon Posts: 9,851
    I'm doing it right now because I had a hospital go live to oversee and now I'm about to be away for 8 weeks and I'm a department of one so everything has to be tucked in before I'm gone. So for the next two days it's more work than anything, but I don't get the appeal in anyway. What the hell good is the money if your not enjoying yourself......never thought I would be so excited for surgery and the drugged stupor to follow as I am right now.
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  • PJSiren
    PJSiren Salem, OR Posts: 5,863
    FoxyRedLa said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    North Americans in particular seem to have a real problem with this. Many other cultures seem to have a MUCH better grasp of what makes life happy. Americans (and to some extent Canadians) seem to be way too focused on defining their lives, themselves, their success in life, on power and salary, and even just work-related bragging rights (i.e. I work 80 a week, I am so great!). And they tend to judge others based on that way too much as well.

    The rat race is only a NA race? I work for the man but only until the moment I can retire :lol:
    EXACTLY! lol I work, and I work hard, but I don't work myself to death, and I don't live to work...I work to live...and when I can retire, I will!
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