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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 9,898
    unsung said:
    Anyone hear how the Democrats are still working for the Kananaugh or Roy Moore accusers lately?
    They didn't work for them to start.  Straw man alert...
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 15,629
    unsung said:
    Anyone hear how the Democrats are still working for the Kananaugh or Roy Moore accusers lately?
    meme it or didn't didn't happen. 
  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,480
    I’ll help you.  The Moore accusers are being sued and at least one Kavanaugh accuser faces jail time.

    No meme needed.  The meme is the Democrat Party.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 9,898
    unsung said:
    I’ll help you.  The Moore accusers are being sued and at least one Kavanaugh accuser faces jail time.

    No meme needed.  The meme is the Democrat Party.
    Ford is the individual that the Democratic leadership believed was credible.  They put her on the stand, under oath.  Is she facing jail time?  

    For Moore, anyone can sue anyone.  It takes about $300 bucks in Alabama to file a civil suit and and he's a lawyer so he could do it pro se.  So your statement means jack shit in terms of guilt.  What do we know affirmatively?  Moore requested dismissal of the suit he filed against the entities that ran political ads against him.  https://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2018/09/judge_rules_on_roy_moores_requ.html
    Curious, eh?

    Got any other hard hitting facts?  Feel good to defend Roy Moore?
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 31,984
    I heard Roy Moore is headed down, on his horse with gun in hand, to the border to help protect us from the "invasion." 
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 9,898
    I heard Roy Moore is headed down, on his horse with gun in hand, to the border to help protect us from the "invasion." 
    Even he was smart enough to know that was bullshit.  
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 14,916

    I googled this because I was curious...
    https://www.foxnews.com/world/migrant-caravan-gets-within-reach-of-border-what-happens-now

    3 hours ago.  So the media is listening.
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 19,643

    I googled this because I was curious...
    https://www.foxnews.com/world/migrant-caravan-gets-within-reach-of-border-what-happens-now

    3 hours ago.  So the media is listening.
    the soldiers will have to shoot them surely they are such a threat to our well being plus taliban cells are inbedded in the caravan , just shoot all of them just to be sure that none get in ! In other news an American terrorist gun down 13 people in Cali ..
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, ColoradoPosts: 5,534
    I heard Roy Moore is headed down, on his horse with gun in hand, to the border to help protect us from the "invasion." 
    I thought he was the leader of the proud boys
    Just another ignorant incel in fear of the impending white genocide 

  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,480
    Is incel the “a little early for” 2019’s racist?
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 31,984
    edited November 8

    I googled this because I was curious...
    https://www.foxnews.com/world/migrant-caravan-gets-within-reach-of-border-what-happens-now

    3 hours ago.  So the media is listening.
    An article on their website is akin to wall to wall coverage with reporters embedded with the "invaders?"
    As recently as Monday this was supposedly a crisis the required us sending 15,000 troops down there as soon as possible. 

    Trump hasn't tweeted about it since before the election. His supporters are suckers. 
    Post edited by The Juggler on
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 14,916

    I googled this because I was curious...
    https://www.foxnews.com/world/migrant-caravan-gets-within-reach-of-border-what-happens-now

    3 hours ago.  So the media is listening.
    An article on their website is akin to wall to wall coverage with reporters embedded with the "invaders?"
    As recently as Monday this was supposedly a crisis the required us sending 15,000 troops down there as soon as possible. 

    Trump hasn't tweeted about it since before the election. His supporters are suckers. 
    I should have been clearer that I was agreeing w you.  Funny how that all media outlets were noticing "no coverage" on the caravan and reporting the same thing you said then boom, there's finally a story.

    It is interesting that only Fox is still running a story and even more interesting that no other media outlets are too.

    You were right.  It was a huge political ploy on both sides...  No one really gives a shit about the caravan.


  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 31,984

    I googled this because I was curious...
    https://www.foxnews.com/world/migrant-caravan-gets-within-reach-of-border-what-happens-now

    3 hours ago.  So the media is listening.
    An article on their website is akin to wall to wall coverage with reporters embedded with the "invaders?"
    As recently as Monday this was supposedly a crisis the required us sending 15,000 troops down there as soon as possible. 

    Trump hasn't tweeted about it since before the election. His supporters are suckers. 
    I should have been clearer that I was agreeing w you.  Funny how that all media outlets were noticing "no coverage" on the caravan and reporting the same thing you said then boom, there's finally a story.

    It is interesting that only Fox is still running a story and even more interesting that no other media outlets are too.

    You were right.  It was a huge political ploy on both sides...  No one really gives a shit about the caravan.


    How was it a political ploy on both sides? One side blatantly lied and exaggerated the threat leading up Tuesday while the other side talked about health care, and the economy. 
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 14,916
    Question?

    What is the upside of giving illegal/undocumented immigrants a drivers license?

  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 19,643
    A massacre will always take away from the other story's as it should ...
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 16,913
    Question?

    What is the upside of giving illegal/undocumented immigrants a drivers license?

    That they know how to drive safely in the state they’re residing in? Or did you mean “government issued ID?” Makes a difference as last time I checked, driver’s licenses weren’t “given out.”
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BCPosts: 43,509
    Question?

    What is the upside of giving illegal/undocumented immigrants a drivers license?

    Safety. It's a hell of a lot better than them driving around without a driver's license, right?
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 10,012
    Question?

    What is the upside of giving illegal/undocumented immigrants a drivers license?
    So there'd be at least some documentation on them? 
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 14,916

    I googled this because I was curious...
    https://www.foxnews.com/world/migrant-caravan-gets-within-reach-of-border-what-happens-now

    3 hours ago.  So the media is listening.
    An article on their website is akin to wall to wall coverage with reporters embedded with the "invaders?"
    As recently as Monday this was supposedly a crisis the required us sending 15,000 troops down there as soon as possible. 

    Trump hasn't tweeted about it since before the election. His supporters are suckers. 
    I should have been clearer that I was agreeing w you.  Funny how that all media outlets were noticing "no coverage" on the caravan and reporting the same thing you said then boom, there's finally a story.

    It is interesting that only Fox is still running a story and even more interesting that no other media outlets are too.

    You were right.  It was a huge political ploy on both sides...  No one really gives a shit about the caravan.


    How was it a political ploy on both sides? One side blatantly lied and exaggerated the threat leading up Tuesday while the other side talked about health care, and the economy. 
    Can't they both?

    Every news source was following it because Trump brought it up.  News sources were discussing why it is important that we do something.  They went and interviewed the migrants in central America then after the election, everyone stopped reporting on it.

    You even said it was a political ploy and I agree with you.  Both sides got what they wanted from it.

    1-to put Trump as an unemphatic person towards the plights of the migrants.
    2-to show that an "invasion" was coming and to be scared.

    Trump stopped tweeting and the media stopped caring.

    It's what I thought you were getting to?  Am I wrong?
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 14,916
    Question?

    What is the upside of giving illegal/undocumented immigrants a drivers license?

    That they know how to drive safely in the state they’re residing in? Or did you mean “government issued ID?” Makes a difference as last time I checked, driver’s licenses weren’t “given out.”
    We love harping on words don't we...

    "What is the upside of illegal/undocumented immigrants obtaining a drivers license?"
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 14,916
    Question?

    What is the upside of giving illegal/undocumented immigrants a drivers license?

    That they know how to drive safely in the state they’re residing in? Or did you mean “government issued ID?” Makes a difference as last time I checked, driver’s licenses weren’t “given out.”
    PJ_Soul said:
    Question?

    What is the upside of giving illegal/undocumented immigrants a drivers license?

    Safety. It's a hell of a lot better than them driving around without a driver's license, right?

    Non-residents


    Out-of-state and foreign driver licenses

    You can drive in New York State with a valid driver license from another state or country. You don’t need to apply for a New York State driver license unless you become a New York State resident. 

    If you have a driver license from another country you do not need to have an International Driving Permit, but it is helpful. The permit verifies in several languages that you have a valid driver license. Police officers who can’t read the language on your foreign driver license will be able to read the permit. Contact the authorities in your home country to get an International Driving Permit. 

  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, ColoradoPosts: 5,534
      
      Appeals court says Trump admin can't end DACA

  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 16,913
    Question?

    What is the upside of giving illegal/undocumented immigrants a drivers license?

    That they know how to drive safely in the state they’re residing in? Or did you mean “government issued ID?” Makes a difference as last time I checked, driver’s licenses weren’t “given out.”
    We love harping on words don't we...

    "What is the upside of illegal/undocumented immigrants obtaining a drivers license?"
    Well, words do assist with understanding and since you’re using the word “obtaining,” and “driver’s licenses,” my previous answer, at a minimum, stands. Pay a fee, take a written test and if not surrendering an existing license, take a road test, have your vision checked, pass all three, be issued a license. Safer driver, if driving. If used for an ID, proof of existence, Identification for opening bank accounts, getting utilities turned on, making a major purchase like a car, getting a loan, obtaining credit. What do you use ID for and wouldn’t those same things for an immigrant, legal or otherwise, be beneficial?
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 14,916
    Question?

    What is the upside of giving illegal/undocumented immigrants a drivers license?

    That they know how to drive safely in the state they’re residing in? Or did you mean “government issued ID?” Makes a difference as last time I checked, driver’s licenses weren’t “given out.”
    We love harping on words don't we...

    "What is the upside of illegal/undocumented immigrants obtaining a drivers license?"
    Well, words do assist with understanding and since you’re using the word “obtaining,” and “driver’s licenses,” my previous answer, at a minimum, stands. Pay a fee, take a written test and if not surrendering an existing license, take a road test, have your vision checked, pass all three, be issued a license. Safer driver, if driving. If used for an ID, proof of existence, Identification for opening bank accounts, getting utilities turned on, making a major purchase like a car, getting a loan, obtaining credit. What do you use ID for and wouldn’t those same things for an immigrant, legal or otherwise, be beneficial?
    See my previous answer below.  A foreigner technically does not need one to operate a vehicle in NY (I used NY as an example).

    That sounds all good but all of the things you listed you don't need an ID for sans maybe obtaining credit but you can get a bank account.   So there are ways around all of that you listed.



    Non-residents


    Out-of-state and foreign driver licenses

    You can drive in New York State with a valid driver license from another state or country. You don’t need to apply for a New York State driver license unless you become a New York State resident. 

    If you have a driver license from another country you do not need to have an International Driving Permit, but it is helpful. The permit verifies in several languages that you have a valid driver license. Police officers who can’t read the language on your foreign driver license will be able to read the permit. Contact the authorities in your home country to get an International Driving Permit. 

  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 16,913
    Question?

    What is the upside of giving illegal/undocumented immigrants a drivers license?

    That they know how to drive safely in the state they’re residing in? Or did you mean “government issued ID?” Makes a difference as last time I checked, driver’s licenses weren’t “given out.”
    We love harping on words don't we...

    "What is the upside of illegal/undocumented immigrants obtaining a drivers license?"
    Well, words do assist with understanding and since you’re using the word “obtaining,” and “driver’s licenses,” my previous answer, at a minimum, stands. Pay a fee, take a written test and if not surrendering an existing license, take a road test, have your vision checked, pass all three, be issued a license. Safer driver, if driving. If used for an ID, proof of existence, Identification for opening bank accounts, getting utilities turned on, making a major purchase like a car, getting a loan, obtaining credit. What do you use ID for and wouldn’t those same things for an immigrant, legal or otherwise, be beneficial?
    See my previous answer below.  A foreigner technically does not need one to operate a vehicle in NY (I used NY as an example).

    That sounds all good but all of the things you listed you don't need an ID for sans maybe obtaining credit but you can get a bank account.   So there are ways around all of that you listed.



    Non-residents


    Out-of-state and foreign driver licenses

    You can drive in New York State with a valid driver license from another state or country. You don’t need to apply for a New York State driver license unless you become a New York State resident. 

    If you have a driver license from another country you do not need to have an International Driving Permit, but it is helpful. The permit verifies in several languages that you have a valid driver license. Police officers who can’t read the language on your foreign driver license will be able to read the permit. Contact the authorities in your home country to get an International Driving Permit. 

    Wouldn’t a state issued ID establish residency, as in local, not permanent or legal US resident or citizen? I’d be surprised a utility or a landlord or bank would accept a foreign driver’s license to open accounts, savings or credit.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 16,913
    And international driving permits are only valid for 60 or 90 days, if I recall. Usually the length of time permitted by a tourist visa.
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 14,916
    Question?

    What is the upside of giving illegal/undocumented immigrants a drivers license?

    That they know how to drive safely in the state they’re residing in? Or did you mean “government issued ID?” Makes a difference as last time I checked, driver’s licenses weren’t “given out.”
    We love harping on words don't we...

    "What is the upside of illegal/undocumented immigrants obtaining a drivers license?"
    Well, words do assist with understanding and since you’re using the word “obtaining,” and “driver’s licenses,” my previous answer, at a minimum, stands. Pay a fee, take a written test and if not surrendering an existing license, take a road test, have your vision checked, pass all three, be issued a license. Safer driver, if driving. If used for an ID, proof of existence, Identification for opening bank accounts, getting utilities turned on, making a major purchase like a car, getting a loan, obtaining credit. What do you use ID for and wouldn’t those same things for an immigrant, legal or otherwise, be beneficial?
    See my previous answer below.  A foreigner technically does not need one to operate a vehicle in NY (I used NY as an example).

    That sounds all good but all of the things you listed you don't need an ID for sans maybe obtaining credit but you can get a bank account.   So there are ways around all of that you listed.



    Non-residents


    Out-of-state and foreign driver licenses

    You can drive in New York State with a valid driver license from another state or country. You don’t need to apply for a New York State driver license unless you become a New York State resident. 

    If you have a driver license from another country you do not need to have an International Driving Permit, but it is helpful. The permit verifies in several languages that you have a valid driver license. Police officers who can’t read the language on your foreign driver license will be able to read the permit. Contact the authorities in your home country to get an International Driving Permit. 

    Wouldn’t a state issued ID establish residency, as in local, not permanent or legal US resident or citizen? I’d be surprised a utility or a landlord or bank would accept a foreign driver’s license to open accounts, savings or credit.
    And international driving permits are only valid for 60 or 90 days, if I recall. Usually the length of time permitted by a tourist visa.

    Remember this revolves around illegal and undocumented immigrants.

    How can an illegal/undocumented establish residency?

    Bank of America was given a ration of shit for letting people open accounts without a US drivers' licenses.  It is possible to open a bank account here.  It is also easy enough to rent an apartment here.  I know PJ soul commented that it was the same in Canada.

    Yes after a certain period of time you might need to change your residency if you don't have a work visas or if it expires.

    So what you have described is what a normal person would/should do.  I'm asking about illegal/undocumented immigrants/people.

    I ask because I am seeing a push here in NY to be able to give them a drivers license.  

    It doesn't make sense.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BCPosts: 43,509

    Appeals court panel says Trump administration can’t end DACA, setting up Supreme Court fight




    I guess this is where Trump hopes his SCOTUS picks will start to come in handy.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 19,643
    PJ_Soul said:

    Appeals court panel says Trump administration can’t end DACA, setting up Supreme Court fight




    I guess this is where Trump hopes his SCOTUS picks will start to come in handy.
    Yep he will def expect them to pay up on their nominations ...
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 31,984

    I googled this because I was curious...
    https://www.foxnews.com/world/migrant-caravan-gets-within-reach-of-border-what-happens-now

    3 hours ago.  So the media is listening.
    An article on their website is akin to wall to wall coverage with reporters embedded with the "invaders?"
    As recently as Monday this was supposedly a crisis the required us sending 15,000 troops down there as soon as possible. 

    Trump hasn't tweeted about it since before the election. His supporters are suckers. 
    I should have been clearer that I was agreeing w you.  Funny how that all media outlets were noticing "no coverage" on the caravan and reporting the same thing you said then boom, there's finally a story.

    It is interesting that only Fox is still running a story and even more interesting that no other media outlets are too.

    You were right.  It was a huge political ploy on both sides...  No one really gives a shit about the caravan.


    How was it a political ploy on both sides? One side blatantly lied and exaggerated the threat leading up Tuesday while the other side talked about health care, and the economy. 
    Can't they both?

    Every news source was following it because Trump brought it up.  News sources were discussing why it is important that we do something.  They went and interviewed the migrants in central America then after the election, everyone stopped reporting on it.

    You even said it was a political ploy and I agree with you.  Both sides got what they wanted from it.

    1-to put Trump as an unemphatic person towards the plights of the migrants.
    2-to show that an "invasion" was coming and to be scared.

    Trump stopped tweeting and the media stopped caring.

    It's what I thought you were getting to?  Am I wrong?
    I was talking about the politics of it. When you said political ploy on both sides I thought you meant democrat and republican. It was a ploy by the president and the republicans and fox news carried their water with non stop coverage. The other channels were forced to cover it some because of what the president said but none gave it nearly the attention that fox did.


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