alice in chains in the rock & roll hall of fame

GiventoFall
GiventoFall Posts: 217
edited March 2006 in Other Music
Will it happen?
Get over here!
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  • even flow?
    even flow? Posts: 8,066
    On the same year as Rush!
    You've changed your place in this world!
  • direwolf74
    direwolf74 Posts: 1,622
    Alice in Chains were a good band, but Hall of Fame material?? I think not.
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    -Tom Waits
  • mtilden
    mtilden Posts: 62
    direwolf74 wrote:
    Alice in Chains were a good band, but Hall of Fame material?? I think not.

    And Blondie is?

    They'll get in easily.
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  • Echoes
    Echoes Posts: 1,279
    it is already a joke, so why not?

    (PS Blondie contributed more to music than AiC ever did. I like AiC more but there really isn't a comparison)
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  • ms11781
    ms11781 Posts: 88
    Echoes wrote:
    it is already a joke, so why not?

    (PS Blondie contributed more to music than AiC ever did. I like AiC more but there really isn't a comparison)

    Agree with everything you said, but as bad as the process is, AIC still doesn't come close to getting in.
  • Brisk.
    Brisk. Posts: 11,581
    direwolf74 wrote:
    Alice in Chains were a good band, but Hall of Fame material?? I think not.

    sorry buddy, but aic are just aesome
  • JOEJOEJOE
    JOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,829
    mtilden wrote:
    And Blondie is?

    They'll get in easily.

    Blondie was innovative in the 70s/80s, and had a much longer career.

    AIC was a good band, but did they really do anything that original?
  • solat1973
    solat1973 Posts: 131
    JOEJOEJOE wrote:
    Blondie was innovative in the 70s/80s, and had a much longer career.

    AIC was a good band, but did they really do anything that original?

    Bro you out of ur mind name one band today that can write a record like jar of
    flies.. AH NOBODY...AIC lyrics alone will blow you away dude befor you write
    something think.....
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  • AxlUlrich
    AxlUlrich Posts: 12,652
    we will find out in 9-10 years...it's abit too early to be talking aboot AIC in the hall of fame really
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  • JOEJOEJOE
    JOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,829
    solat1973 wrote:
    Bro you out of ur mind name one band today that can write a record like jar of
    flies.. AH NOBODY...AIC lyrics alone will blow you away dude befor you write
    something think.....

    But that is only 1 record you are citing.....you may like them, which I respect, but did they do anything to change music?

    The short-timers that make the HOF usually had a lasting effect, such as the Sex Pistols.

    And, BRO, if you feel you have the right to tell me to think before I write something, I will tell you to check your spelling, grammar and punctuation before YOU write something, DUDE!

    :)
  • darthvedder88
    darthvedder88 Posts: 1,023
    They've inspired numerous artists, and have connected with millions of fans...yeah, they'll get in eventually.
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  • Deaderman
    Deaderman Posts: 49
    They've made as big an impact as Nirvana, so if Nirvana gets in, so should Alice.
    Power without Perception is virtually useless and therefore of no true value
  • drew0
    drew0 Posts: 943
    One of the greatest bands of the '90s. Why wouldn't they be in? Rage, PJ, AIC, Nirvana, Soundgarden, Smashing Pumpkins, Radiohead will all be in.
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  • Echoes
    Echoes Posts: 1,279
    "One of my favourite" is not always "One of the Greatest." While a large number of those bands whill probably get in, I don't think AiC will (I don't think Soundgarden should, either)
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  • ms11781
    ms11781 Posts: 88
    drew0 wrote:
    One of the greatest bands of the '90s. Why wouldn't they be in? Rage, PJ, AIC, Nirvana, Soundgarden, Smashing Pumpkins, Radiohead will all be in.

    Just because they were good in their era does not mean they will get in the Hall Of Fame. While I agree with you because I personally think they are one of the greatest band of the 90's, when you look at music as a whole, they will be considered as very good in their genre as far as the HOF voters are concerned. Nirvana is a lock to get in, first ballot. Pearl Jam is a close second and every day they are together helps because longevity counts for something. They should be first ballot but the HOF voters don't do things like you think they would. By then, Nirvana will already have ushered "grunge" into the Hall 2 years earlier and inexplicably, sometimes it takes the voters a little while to recognize the other bands that helped along the way. Radiohead is a possibility due to the experimentation they have brought to their music, but I think they need to add a bit more to the resume. My personal view is that RATM should get in because, let's face it, rap/rock is now considered a genre of music and while they are not pioneers, they are the only ones who have done it right. Still, they will not get in. AIC, Soundgarden and Smashing Pumpkins have zero chance. While the music is outstanding, they haven't brought anything groundbreaking to the table. As far as the history of music, they are merely good rock bands. If there was a Rock and Roll Hall of Fame for only bands that came out in the 90's, all those bands you named would undoubtedly be in.
  • mrwalkerb
    mrwalkerb Posts: 1,015
    ms11781 wrote:
    Just because they were good in their era does not mean they will get in the Hall Of Fame. While I agree with you because I personally think they are one of the greatest band of the 90's, when you look at music as a whole, they will be considered as very good in their genre as far as the HOF voters are concerned. Nirvana is a lock to get in, first ballot. Pearl Jam is a close second and every day they are together helps because longevity counts for something. They should be first ballot but the HOF voters don't do things like you think they would. By then, Nirvana will already have ushered "grunge" into the Hall 2 years earlier and inexplicably, sometimes it takes the voters a little while to recognize the other bands that helped along the way. Radiohead is a possibility due to the experimentation they have brought to their music, but I think they need to add a bit more to the resume. My personal view is that RATM should get in because, let's face it, rap/rock is now considered a genre of music and while they are not pioneers, they are the only ones who have done it right. Still, they will not get in. AIC, Soundgarden and Smashing Pumpkins have zero chance. While the music is outstanding, they haven't brought anything groundbreaking to the table. As far as the history of music, they are merely good rock bands. If there was a Rock and Roll Hall of Fame for only bands that came out in the 90's, all those bands you named would undoubtedly be in.


    Thanks for saving me the time to write all that.

    Deaderman wrote:
    They've made as big an impact as Nirvana, so if Nirvana gets in, so should Alice.

    As tempting as it is to just call you an idiot for making that statement I will hold off. The idea that anyone of the from the early nineties had even a fraction of the effect that Nirvana is retarted. That's like equating Led Zep with Spinal Tap becasue Nirvana is on teh Led Zep level kids whether you like 'em or not you have to admit it and if anyone flames me with Zeppelin being awesome bullshit step off cause I own all thier records and yes I know they were great but in the grand scheme of things what Nirvana did cannot be overstated. If for nothing other then killing hair metal, not mention being the band that threw the spotlight on "alternative" music, all these bands like the pixies and Dinosaur Jr. who are held in such regard today simply would not be the mildy household names they are if not for Nirvana, Nirvana's in the hall, Pearl Jam is a maybe but it will be for thier stand on ticketmaster and the boots more then the music-not that they don't deserve because of the music but that's not why they'll get in. I can see RATM and maybe teh Peppers but really guys AIC? sorry they just didn't have the impact and on top of that some of thier stuff sounds dated something that has yet to, and probably will not in the near future, happen to In Utero.
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  • Deaderman
    Deaderman Posts: 49
    First off, if you're going to do something, do it and don't just halfass it. As for the outdated comment, I'm not sure if the HOF council will agree with your opinion, but we'll all see won't we? And thanks for reminding me why Kurt turns over in his grave with fans like you.
    mrwalkerb wrote:
    Thanks for saving me the time to write all that.




    As tempting as it is to just call you an idiot for making that statement I will hold off. The idea that anyone of the from the early nineties had even a fraction of the effect that Nirvana is retarted. That's like equating Led Zep with Spinal Tap becasue Nirvana is on teh Led Zep level kids whether you like 'em or not you have to admit it and if anyone flames me with Zeppelin being awesome bullshit step off cause I own all thier records and yes I know they were great but in the grand scheme of things what Nirvana did cannot be overstated. If for nothing other then killing hair metal, not mention being the band that threw the spotlight on "alternative" music, all these bands like the pixies and Dinosaur Jr. who are held in such regard today simply would not be the mildy household names they are if not for Nirvana, Nirvana's in the hall, Pearl Jam is a maybe but it will be for thier stand on ticketmaster and the boots more then the music-not that they don't deserve because of the music but that's not why they'll get in. I can see RATM and maybe teh Peppers but really guys AIC? sorry they just didn't have the impact and on top of that some of thier stuff sounds dated something that has yet to, and probably will not in the near future, happen to In Utero.
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  • JOEJOEJOE
    JOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,829
    mrwalkerb wrote:
    Thanks for saving me the time to write all that.




    As tempting as it is to just call you an idiot for making that statement I will hold off. The idea that anyone of the from the early nineties had even a fraction of the effect that Nirvana is retarted. That's like equating Led Zep with Spinal Tap becasue Nirvana is on teh Led Zep level kids whether you like 'em or not you have to admit it and if anyone flames me with Zeppelin being awesome bullshit step off cause I own all thier records and yes I know they were great but in the grand scheme of things what Nirvana did cannot be overstated. If for nothing other then killing hair metal, not mention being the band that threw the spotlight on "alternative" music, all these bands like the pixies and Dinosaur Jr. who are held in such regard today simply would not be the mildy household names they are if not for Nirvana, Nirvana's in the hall, Pearl Jam is a maybe but it will be for thier stand on ticketmaster and the boots more then the music-not that they don't deserve because of the music but that's not why they'll get in. I can see RATM and maybe teh Peppers but really guys AIC? sorry they just didn't have the impact and on top of that some of thier stuff sounds dated something that has yet to, and probably will not in the near future, happen to In Utero.

    Why not state your opinion, rather then belittling the opinions of others?

    The Pixies were around way before Nirvana, and were doing quite nicely even before Nirvana took-off.
  • mrwalkerb
    mrwalkerb Posts: 1,015
    Deaderman wrote:
    First off, if you're going to do something, do it and don't just halfass it. As for the outdated comment, I'm not sure if the HOF council will agree with your opinion, but we'll all see won't we? And thanks for reminding me why Kurt turns over in his grave with fans like you.

    what outdated comment? and dude you said AIC had the same impact as Nirvana so come on now
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  • mk333
    mk333 Posts: 17
    I think whether or not AIC makes it in the hall of fame they are still a great band that is COMPLETELY original and not like anything or anyone else. There will never be another band like this and for that I love these guys even more. I think their music has had an impact on music more than we will ever know. That is the beauty of music. Whether or not a band makes it in the Hall of Fame shouldn't matter, and you can't relate one bands music to the success of another band.
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