alice in chains in the rock & roll hall of fame

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  • enharmonic
    enharmonic Posts: 1,917
    I don't see it happening.

    Nirvana - yep
    Pearl Jam - yep
    Soundgarden - Maybe...definitely should happen IMO
    AIC - don't know for sure...great band indeed, but something always seemed to be missing.
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  • Deaderman
    Deaderman Posts: 49
    mrwalkerb wrote:
    what outdated comment? and dude you said AIC had the same impact as Nirvana so come on now

    "sorry they just didn't have the impact and on top of that some of thier stuff sounds dated something that has yet to, and probably will not in the near future, happen to In Utero."


    Whatever...LOL
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  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    JOEJOEJOE wrote:
    Blondie was innovative in the 70s/80s, and had a much longer career.

    AIC was a good band, but did they really do anything that original?
    They had a singer who's fans had the kind of reverence for him when he was still alive that only dead people like Kurt Cobain usually get. That's fairly original. Even if you claim they didn't have a huge impact on the musical world, you cannot deny Layne was something special. He had that untangible quality that cannot be explained. Blondie were an average pop-punk band who ad some catchy tunes that were sold by the pin-up fronting them. AiC changed their fans lives. Can you say the same for Blondie fans?
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  • direwolf74
    direwolf74 Posts: 1,622
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    They had a singer who's fans had the kind of reverence for him when he was still alive that only dead people like Kurt Cobain usually get. That's fairly original. Even if you claim they didn't have a huge impact on the musical world, you cannot deny Layne was something special. He had that untangible quality that cannot be explained. Blondie were an average pop-punk band who ad some catchy tunes that were sold by the pin-up fronting them. AiC changed their fans lives. Can you say the same for Blondie fans?

    Uhh..you might wanna study up on some rock n' roll history before you make any more posts on this topic. Yes, Alice in Chains were a good band, and they may have changed the lives of some of their fans, but they did NOT make the kind of massive impact that would get them into the hall of fame. Sorry to disappoint ya, but it just ain't gonna happen.
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  • enharmonic
    enharmonic Posts: 1,917
    Nirvana killed butt rock with Nevermind, and basically launched the shift in 90s rock music that will forever be called fucking "grunge"...ugggh. They deserve to get in if for no other reason than they kille dthe era of coked-up supermodels doing cartwheels on the hoods of Ferrari's in music videos.

    Soundgarden were pretty much the unsung heroes of the 90s until Black Hole Sun turned them into some kind of mega band...which IMO is what killed them (the business of being a mega rock band). SG brought a level of musicianship to the table that few of their peers had going for them. I hate to say that they were the Zeppelin of their generation, but 20 years from now, people will still be talking about Cornell's voice, Matt and Ben's shifting, brilliant rhythm section, and Kim Thayil's frenetic, wah-drenched guitar. To wit, I have never heard a band rip off SG successfully. The only band on par with them musically in the 90s was Tool.
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  • JOEJOEJOE
    JOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,829
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    They had a singer who's fans had the kind of reverence for him when he was still alive that only dead people like Kurt Cobain usually get. That's fairly original. Even if you claim they didn't have a huge impact on the musical world, you cannot deny Layne was something special. He had that untangible quality that cannot be explained. Blondie were an average pop-punk band who ad some catchy tunes that were sold by the pin-up fronting them. AiC changed their fans lives. Can you say the same for Blondie fans?

    I agree Layne was unique, and I applaud your passion towards him, but there are dozens of singers held in the same regard by their loyal fans. I am a huge Paul Westerberg fan, but I know he was never fully accepted by the masses, so I doubt the HOF will include him...So be it.

    Blondie introuduced pop-punk to the masses, and they had an impact on young girls who looked up to Deborah Harry, much the way you may admire Layne. The admiration for both may be based on different reasons, but both had their followers.
  • mrwalkerb
    mrwalkerb Posts: 1,015
    Deaderman wrote:
    "sorry they just didn't have the impact and on top of that some of thier stuff sounds dated something that has yet to, and probably will not in the near future, happen to In Utero."


    Whatever...LOL


    so because in your opinion my opionion is wrong I'm wrong? whether you like to admit it or not some of these once great albums just don't sound as fresh as they once did and it has more to do with production styles then anything, unfortuantly AIC happens to have a few albums that fall into that pit. flame away but I think Ten sounds dated
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  • Deaderman
    Deaderman Posts: 49
    mrwalkerb wrote:
    so because in your opinion my opionion is wrong I'm wrong? whether you like to admit it or not some of these once great albums just don't sound as fresh as they once did and it has more to do with production styles then anything, unfortuantly AIC happens to have a few albums that fall into that pit. flame away but I think Ten sounds dated



    I never said your opinion is wrong, I just said we'll see what happens. You want to be honest? Every album out there is dated, no matter what. You say that Nirvana won't become outdated? Well, since the 60's, bands have been talking about drug use so I don't see how Alice would become outdated. We went from talking about Alice not going into the HOF to your opinion....I might have just let you have your opinion but not only did you more or less call me an idiot, you critiicized me. Can't take it, eh?
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  • Oh, Jimmy
    Oh, Jimmy Posts: 957
    mrwalkerb wrote:
    what outdated comment? and dude you said AIC had the same impact as Nirvana so come on now


    I think AIC has as much of a lingering effect on music as Nirvana, but the initial grunge explosion was like the second coming of Elvis.


    Nirvana, PJ, SG, Tool and the Black Crowes will most likely be first timers from the early 90's
    Rage, AIC, Pumpkins etc. etc will get in eventually.
  • Igottago
    Igottago Posts: 483
    I don't know about the requirements to get into hall of fame, and I dont give a shit. But AIC are underappreciated, and won't get the critical respect they deserve until 15-20 years from now, when everyone can soberly sift out the good from the bad. The great thing about the early 1990's is that all the big bands were unique..AIC had a more blues oriented sound, and their aggressive metal style was as good as their melodic acoustic stuff. They had great range. And Layne truly was a talent, one of the best voices of the time. Not to mention the vocal harmonies between Layne and Jerry. Whether they make the hall of fame or not doesn't really matter.
  • Bradass
    Bradass Posts: 88
    As Much as Alice deserve to be in, I don't really give a shit.
    The Rock and Roll Hall of fame is a fucking sham, it's worse that the Oscars for Christ's sake
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