Pinkerton

prytocorduroy
prytocorduroy Posts: 4,355
edited November 2007 in Other Music
So I just heard this album in it's entirety for the first time today. I'd heard El Scorcho before and that one's good.

Anyway, this has got to be the biggest, "what the fuck........????" album I've ever heard. Seriously. I don't know what to think about it. I'm gonna go smoke some weed and listen again and see if I "get it".
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  • itsevobaby
    itsevobaby Posts: 1,809
    pinkerton rules. i hope it happens for you :)


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  • dont_go_on_me
    dont_go_on_me Posts: 877
    it took me around 6-8 listens before I realized what I was actually listening to, and how good it really was.

    i love the album, way back when i was a jr. and sr. in high school that album was *it* for me.
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  • Bremerton
    Bremerton Posts: 279
    I think it is ok. It always puzzles me when people say it is superior to the blue album.
  • pushmepullme
    pushmepullme Posts: 255
    Its one of the best records ever.
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  • Julien
    Julien Posts: 2,457
    pinkerton's really good.
    I love the sound / production of this album.
    A few good tracks on it.
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  • Blackeyedangel
    Blackeyedangel Posts: 262
    This is where it all started.
  • niall
    niall Posts: 244
    Yeah I too love the production. The guitars sound is awesome on that album.
    Its a really good album.
  • DeetroitBaasketball
    DeetroitBaasketball Posts: 379
    Bremerton wrote:
    I think it is ok. It always puzzles me when people say it is superior to the blue album.

    Explain.

    I think people point to how personal the album was for Rivers. I guess he was very dissapointed people didn't receive it well. I really like it and see it as equal to or greater than the Blue album.
  • prytocorduroy
    prytocorduroy Posts: 4,355
    Okay....follow up.

    I listened to it twice last night stoned (it's obviously intriguing to me since I listened twice) and I have a feeling this is one of those No Code or Adore type albums. The ones that continue to get better with each listen but leave you confused as shit after the first listen. If this assumption is correct I'll be very happy - those type albums are the best!

    I like three more songs than I did after first listen now :)



    And I wasn't expecting a rehash of Blue but damn I wasn't expecting polar opposites. This has got to be the least pop thing Weezer has ever done.
  • DeetroitBaasketball
    DeetroitBaasketball Posts: 379
    danny72688 wrote:
    Okay....follow up.

    I listened to it twice last night stoned (it's obviously intriguing to me since I listened twice) and I have a feeling this is one of those No Code or Adore type albums. The ones that continue to get better with each listen but leave you confused as shit after the first listen. If this assumption is correct I'll be very happy - those type albums are the best!

    I like three more songs than I did after first listen now :)



    And I wasn't expecting a rehash of Blue but damn I wasn't expecting polar opposites. This has got to be the least pop thing Weezer has ever done.

    It's exactly one of those type of albums.
  • prytocorduroy
    prytocorduroy Posts: 4,355
    Alright, so I definitely like this album now. Been listening to it at least a few times a day since starting this thread. Not quite at Blue's level to me yet, though. However it's amazing how much more they put into this album. It just seems like it was premature for them. This is the kind of album that should've come out around Green's time I think.

    Anyways still working on getting only two more songs in that "listen to on repeat" status (out of all ten).

    How I could've overlooked Tired of Sex, Getchoo, Pink Triangle, and Butterfly from first listen just baffles me to death. Those are great tunes! :)
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    I didn't fall head over heels in love with Pinkerton until the 3rd listen. The first I was just not expecting what I heard...the second I was warming up to it...the third I *got it* and haven't ever looked back.
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  • chris05
    chris05 Posts: 347
    my favorite weezer album.
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  • pjoasisrule
    pjoasisrule Posts: 3,412
    That and The Blue Album are absolutely amazing albums, two of the best 90's records.
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  • Black Circle
    Black Circle Posts: 37
    pjoasisrule wrote:
    That and The Blue Album are absolutely amazing albums, two of the best 90's records.

    I agree. It’s a shame that Pinkerton was Weezer's last good album.
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  • Julien
    Julien Posts: 2,457
    Black Circle wrote:
    I agree. It’s a shame that Pinkerton was Weezer's last good album.

    The last one is not that bad. Not as good as blue album and pinkerton, but not bad.
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  • VitalDissidence
    VitalDissidence Posts: 160
    Julien wrote:
    The last one is not that bad. Not as good as blue album and pinkerton, but not bad.

    I thought Maladroit was closer to the blue album and Pinkerton than the dreadful green album. Granted, it's nowhere near as good but still good in its own right.
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  • prytocorduroy
    prytocorduroy Posts: 4,355
    VitalDissidence wrote:
    I thought Maladroit was closer to the blue album and Pinkerton than the dreadful green album. Granted, it's nowhere near as good but still good in its own right.
    Hey! Green is a fun album :) Way too short though.
  • Gardenparty
    Gardenparty Posts: 1,910
    pushmepullme wrote:
    Its one of the best records ever.

    it is up there
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  • gleemonex
    gleemonex Posts: 848
    Black Circle wrote:
    I agree. It’s a shame that Pinkerton was Weezer's last good album.
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