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prytocorduroyprytocorduroy Posts: 4,355
edited November 2007 in Other Music
So I just heard this album in it's entirety for the first time today. I'd heard El Scorcho before and that one's good.

Anyway, this has got to be the biggest, "what the fuck........????" album I've ever heard. Seriously. I don't know what to think about it. I'm gonna go smoke some weed and listen again and see if I "get it".
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  • itsevobabyitsevobaby Posts: 1,809
    pinkerton rules. i hope it happens for you :)


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  • dont_go_on_medont_go_on_me Posts: 877
    it took me around 6-8 listens before I realized what I was actually listening to, and how good it really was.

    i love the album, way back when i was a jr. and sr. in high school that album was *it* for me.
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  • BremertonBremerton Posts: 279
    I think it is ok. It always puzzles me when people say it is superior to the blue album.
  • pushmepullmepushmepullme Posts: 255
    Its one of the best records ever.
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  • JulienJulien Posts: 2,457
    pinkerton's really good.
    I love the sound / production of this album.
    A few good tracks on it.
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  • BlackeyedangelBlackeyedangel Posts: 262
    This is where it all started.
  • niallniall Posts: 244
    Yeah I too love the production. The guitars sound is awesome on that album.
    Its a really good album.
  • DeetroitBaasketballDeetroitBaasketball Posts: 379
    Bremerton wrote:
    I think it is ok. It always puzzles me when people say it is superior to the blue album.

    Explain.

    I think people point to how personal the album was for Rivers. I guess he was very dissapointed people didn't receive it well. I really like it and see it as equal to or greater than the Blue album.
  • prytocorduroyprytocorduroy Posts: 4,355
    Okay....follow up.

    I listened to it twice last night stoned (it's obviously intriguing to me since I listened twice) and I have a feeling this is one of those No Code or Adore type albums. The ones that continue to get better with each listen but leave you confused as shit after the first listen. If this assumption is correct I'll be very happy - those type albums are the best!

    I like three more songs than I did after first listen now :)



    And I wasn't expecting a rehash of Blue but damn I wasn't expecting polar opposites. This has got to be the least pop thing Weezer has ever done.
  • DeetroitBaasketballDeetroitBaasketball Posts: 379
    danny72688 wrote:
    Okay....follow up.

    I listened to it twice last night stoned (it's obviously intriguing to me since I listened twice) and I have a feeling this is one of those No Code or Adore type albums. The ones that continue to get better with each listen but leave you confused as shit after the first listen. If this assumption is correct I'll be very happy - those type albums are the best!

    I like three more songs than I did after first listen now :)



    And I wasn't expecting a rehash of Blue but damn I wasn't expecting polar opposites. This has got to be the least pop thing Weezer has ever done.

    It's exactly one of those type of albums.
  • prytocorduroyprytocorduroy Posts: 4,355
    Alright, so I definitely like this album now. Been listening to it at least a few times a day since starting this thread. Not quite at Blue's level to me yet, though. However it's amazing how much more they put into this album. It just seems like it was premature for them. This is the kind of album that should've come out around Green's time I think.

    Anyways still working on getting only two more songs in that "listen to on repeat" status (out of all ten).

    How I could've overlooked Tired of Sex, Getchoo, Pink Triangle, and Butterfly from first listen just baffles me to death. Those are great tunes! :)
  • AbookamongstthemanyAbookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    I didn't fall head over heels in love with Pinkerton until the 3rd listen. The first I was just not expecting what I heard...the second I was warming up to it...the third I *got it* and haven't ever looked back.
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  • chris05chris05 Posts: 347
    my favorite weezer album.
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  • pjoasisrulepjoasisrule Posts: 3,412
    That and The Blue Album are absolutely amazing albums, two of the best 90's records.
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  • Black CircleBlack Circle Posts: 37
    pjoasisrule wrote:
    That and The Blue Album are absolutely amazing albums, two of the best 90's records.

    I agree. It’s a shame that Pinkerton was Weezer's last good album.
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  • JulienJulien Posts: 2,457
    Black Circle wrote:
    I agree. It’s a shame that Pinkerton was Weezer's last good album.

    The last one is not that bad. Not as good as blue album and pinkerton, but not bad.
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  • VitalDissidenceVitalDissidence Posts: 160
    Julien wrote:
    The last one is not that bad. Not as good as blue album and pinkerton, but not bad.

    I thought Maladroit was closer to the blue album and Pinkerton than the dreadful green album. Granted, it's nowhere near as good but still good in its own right.
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  • prytocorduroyprytocorduroy Posts: 4,355
    VitalDissidence wrote:
    I thought Maladroit was closer to the blue album and Pinkerton than the dreadful green album. Granted, it's nowhere near as good but still good in its own right.
    Hey! Green is a fun album :) Way too short though.
  • GardenpartyGardenparty Posts: 1,910
    pushmepullme wrote:
    Its one of the best records ever.

    it is up there
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  • gleemonexgleemonex Posts: 848
    Black Circle wrote:
    I agree. It’s a shame that Pinkerton was Weezer's last good album.
    Quoted for truth.
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  • dirtyTdirtyT Posts: 3,620
    Bremerton wrote:
    I think it is ok. It always puzzles me when people say it is superior to the blue album.
    PINKERTON IS SUPERIOR TO THE BLUE ALBUM!!!
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  • lukin321lukin321 Charlotte, NC Posts: 864
    Yea Pinkerton is my favorite Weezer album, loved it from the start
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  • prytocorduroyprytocorduroy Posts: 4,355
    lukin321 wrote:
    Yea Pinkerton is my favorite Weezer album, loved it from the start
    I like it now, but at first I didn't really like it. I had to "get" it first.
    What's your favorite track?
  • letsongsprotestletsongsprotest Novi, MI Posts: 552
    Good God, I havent listened to Pinkerton in a long time. I'm gonna give it a spin today!!! My fave Weezer album. Pink Triangle is probably my favorite or maybe Across the Sea.

    By the way, I frakin' love Maladroit too. I think its way underrated.
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  • SigEpCougarSigEpCougar Posts: 96
    pink triangle.... fucking classic..


    tired of sex....amazing....

    el sorcho.... well


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    a ecw reference....brilliant!
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  • bird jambird jam Posts: 107
    Black Circle wrote:
    I agree. It’s a shame that Pinkerton was Weezer's last good album.

    There is a very good reason for this. Listen to the Rentals and you will know why.
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  • whatsthefreezerwhatsthefreezer Posts: 347
    still gives me goosebumps more than a decade later.
  • prytocorduroyprytocorduroy Posts: 4,355
    whatsthefreezer wrote:
    still gives me goosebumps more than a decade later.
    It's a shame it took critics 10 years to realize this. It only took me a couple listens.
  • whatsthefreezerwhatsthefreezer Posts: 347
    danny72688 wrote:
    It's a shame it took critics 10 years to realize this. It only took me a couple listens.

    it was truly ahead of its time. yep always funny how critical reception changes over time the list of "growers" gets bigger all the time.
  • mookie blaylock 10mookie blaylock 10 Posts: 4,042
    two pinkies way up for pinkerton. :)
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