Interesting read!

Maybe I was a little harsh, I dunno?

Anyone got a boot of the mtv unplugged they did?

1. STP are extremely underrated. They have had as many hit songs as Pearl Jam, and more than Soundgarden, Nirvana, or AIC ever did. But unfortunately were stuck in the grunge shadow just because they were not from Seattle and therefore never got a mention in the same breath as "the big 4"

2. STP ripped off no one. Eddie Vedder doesn't even sound like himself from the first PJ album. And the first PJ album sounds nothing like PJ sounds now. And why? Because new bands are at the mercy of their producers, who are paid an assload of money by the record company to make the music sound like what is popular at the time. You don't get to start calling your own shots till you prove yourself with some hits, as STP and PJ BOTH did. STP was no Pearl Jam copy, STP JUST LIKE PEARL JAM were mixed to sound that way by someone else.

3. STP is from San Diego. Which is where Eddie Vedder was living prior to joining PJ. So how does anyone know Ed didn't copy Weiland? WE DON'T. Maybe Ed was having a few beers at a local show when he was still trying to figure out how to sing.

4. STP fucking kicks ass live. And Weiland is one of the best frontmen i have ever had the pleasure of paying to see. You would all do yourselves a huge favor to check them out while you have the chance.

elmer wrote:

Neither was the case in all probablility! This 'sound-a-like' debate surely ended upon both bands releasing their second albums.

Agreed. Core was a much darker album, stylistically, than any of STP's other records, which probably led to Weiland singing in his lower register for much of it. As STP broadened their sound on Purple and Tiny Music, Weiland's voice broadened with it. As for his expressions in the Plush video, I'd say that's probably imitation.

walkthamile wrote:

No... Purple, although a much better album than Core, was as much Seattle Sound as its predecessor. They changed with Tiny Music, and then went downhill after that one IMO.

what exactly is "the seattle sound"?

i have never heard 2 popular bands from that city who sound even remotely similar.

walkthamile wrote:

Well, let me see...on that album he still sounded like Vedder, on some songs he even started to sound like Cobain and Staley! Those guys were all in bands that came from Seattle! Their music was loud and they had quite alot of heavy distorted guitars, and they had some angst filled lyrics

hmmm

loud, distorted guitars, and angsty

i guess Pearl Jam ripped off Nine Inch Nails then

Pretty Hate Machine: 1989
Ten: 1991

This game is fun. Let's keep connecting bands through generalized means when no other connection exists

walkthamile wrote:

Only Ed did not rip off Trent Reznor! And Weiland clearly ripped off Ed... Yeh, this is enjoyable lets keep playing :rolleyes:

They were BOTH influenced by Jim Morrison

Is it really hard to contemplate that 2 singers influenced by the same guy may have a similar vocal style?

Weiland still uses the baritone on heavier songs. Ed uses it....ummm...whenever he's not being whiney and nasal.

ENOUGH ENOUGH PEOPLE, YES I'M SHOUTING!!!!!

STP recorded a demo under the name Mighty Joe Young around 1990, BEFORE Pearl Jam were known, and they essentially still sound like STP, and more to the point, Weiland still has that deeper voice that everybody is so quick to compare to Vedder's. In addition 4 of the songs from the demo ended up on Core

Here is the PROOF

http://youtube.com/watch?v=KRR_VmnpR-M


The chances are that STP were probably signed because of Pearl Jam's success and stylistically of course there are similarities, but there is no doubt that STP had their own sound before Pearl Jam came on the scene. Therefore all you doubters are all talking cobblers!

I personally love STP, not as much as Pearl Jam, but they have written some of the most memorable songs of the past 15 years.