Americans and music

biffy clyro
biffy clyro Posts: 148
edited July 2007 in Other Music
Why does it seem the vast majority of Americans seem to dislike good music?

Prime example...Kings of Leon go in at number 25 in the album charts(number 1 for the second week running in the UK),Nickelback go in at number 1 and sell 5 million??
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  • stateoflove79
    stateoflove79 Posts: 2,845
    biffy clyro wrote:
    Why does it seem the vast majority of Americans seem to dislike good music?

    Prime example...Kings of Leon go in at number 25 in the album charts(number 1 for the second week running in the UK),Nickelback go in at number 1 and sell 5 million??
    Most Americans (and I am an American) wouldn't know good music if it bit their cock or nipples off.
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  • Pearl Jam and toast
    Pearl Jam and toast Posts: 4,475
    We have a lot of people with realllllly shitty taste like everywhere else. Good music is rarely gonna be recognized by billboard charts or the media. For christs' sake aren't we on season 9 or so of american idol?
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  • BinFrog
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    I think you give the rest of the world too much credit. I find that the vast majority of people I have met, American or otherwise, have musical tastes I would personally consider god awful. I don't think it's an American thing.
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  • stu gee
    stu gee Posts: 1,174
    biffy clyro wrote:
    Why does it seem the vast majority of Americans seem to dislike good music?

    Prime example...Kings of Leon go in at number 25 in the album charts(number 1 for the second week running in the UK),Nickelback go in at number 1 and sell 5 million??

    Crazy Frog got to number here not so long ago so im not sure your argument holds any water at all.
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  • biffy clyro
    biffy clyro Posts: 148
    stu gee wrote:
    Crazy Frog got to number here not so long ago so im not sure your argument holds any water at all.


    I'm not talking about pop,r n b,classical or anything like that,i'm talking about guitar music,and guitar bands.Sorry should have been a bit clearer.
  • Pearl Jam and toast
    Pearl Jam and toast Posts: 4,475
    biffy clyro wrote:
    I'm not talking about pop,r n b,classical or anything like that,i'm talking about guitar music,and guitar bands.Sorry should have been a bit clearer.
    I understand what you're asking, and generally you English seem to have us whipped. I don't think it's just me,.. but I've noticed that far more British seem to have at least some good music that they listen to. hmm.
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  • DOSW
    DOSW Posts: 2,014
    I don't know if this is the case in other countries, but...

    Music just isn't marketed as an art form. It's marketed as something that can make your car rides a little more enjoyable, or your workouts a little easier, or your ringtone a little more catchy. So when 'good' music (i.e. music with any shred of artistic merit) is put out, people don't really want. They don't want something that you can put on a good pair of headphones and just listen to all the way through... that went out of style a long time ago. They want that Nickelback song they heard on the radio, so they buy Now That's What I Call Music 49 and listen to it for about a week and then forget about it. And there's the problem... 'good' music doesn't sell.
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  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    It's not Americans, it's people. Have you ever heard the crap that tops the charts in other countries? We don't have a monopoly on bad taste, that's for sure.
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  • Pearl Jam and toast
    Pearl Jam and toast Posts: 4,475
    hippiemom wrote:
    It's not Americans, it's people. Have you ever heard the crap that tops the charts in other countries? We don't have a monopoly on bad taste, that's for sure.
    certainly not, but I really do think English people just generally have better popular rock music. Interpol, Radiohead, The Cure, The Smiths, etc.
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  • stu gee
    stu gee Posts: 1,174
    hippiemom wrote:
    It's not Americans, it's people. Have you ever heard the crap that tops the charts in other countries? We don't have a monopoly on bad taste, that's for sure.

    Yeah, have a look at some of the charts in Europe, absolutely horrendous as well

    Had a look at the french charts there and i see that Mika is in the top 5 album chart. I wouldnt advise people check him out if you havent heard him but he is a complete nightmare.

    I know this thread is supposed to be about guitar music, but it is all in the same charts anyway.
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  • stu gee
    stu gee Posts: 1,174
    Pearl Jam and toast wrote:
    certainly not, but I really do think English people just generally have better popular rock music. Interpol, Radiohead, The Cure, The Smiths, etc.

    i thought interpol were from the US?
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  • Todd76
    Todd76 Posts: 1,469
    stu gee wrote:
    i thought interpol were from the US?


    they are (NYC)......and i'm going to see them tonight - cant freakin wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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  • Pearl Jam and toast
    Pearl Jam and toast Posts: 4,475
    Todd76 wrote:
    they are (NYC)......and i'm going to see them tonight - cant freakin wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    They're like a thousand times more popular in England I believe.
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  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    As hm said, Americans do not have a monopoly on bad music. Simon Cowell is British after all. :o
  • Peter C
    Peter C Posts: 237
    cutback wrote:
    As hm said, Americans do not have a monopoly on bad music. Simon Cowell is British after all. :o

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  • intodeep
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    Pearl Jam and toast wrote:
    certainly not, but I really do think English people just generally have better popular rock music. Interpol, Radiohead, The Cure, The Smiths, etc.

    ahh one of my all time favorite discussions. US vs england in rock music.

    the brits whipped everyone in the late 60's and 70's. They took a couple good swings in 80s but for the most part ithink since teh 70's the good ole USA has had them beat.

    as mentioned interpol is from the US but i think perhaps the editors are from the UK? (i could be wrong) and they sound like a 3rd generation smiths knock off instead of a 2nd genderation like interpol :D

    some bands just get hot in europe or the UK and not as much here. Personally i don't like the Kings of Leon. I have their first two albums and i saw them live and they just don't do it for me.
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  • biffy clyro
    biffy clyro Posts: 148
    intodeep wrote:
    ahh one of my all time favorite discussions. US vs england in rock music.

    the brits whipped everyone in the late 60's and 70's. They took a couple good swings in 80s but for the most part ithink since teh 70's the good ole USA has had them beat.

    as mentioned interpol is from the US but i think perhaps the editors are from the UK? (i could be wrong) and they sound like a 3rd generation smiths knock off instead of a 2nd genderation like interpol :D

    some bands just get hot in europe or the UK and not as much here. Personally i don't like the Kings of Leon. I have their first two albums and i saw them live and they just don't do it for me.


    NO!NO!NO!

    It's nothing to do with US V UK rock...i'm talking about americans not buying good music(american artists included)the strokes,kings of leon,white stripes are all huge over here,but americans would rather buy and listen to crap like hinder
  • PaulJam
    PaulJam Posts: 163
    biffy clyro wrote:
    Why does it seem the vast majority of Americans seem to dislike good music?

    Prime example...Kings of Leon go in at number 25 in the album charts(number 1 for the second week running in the UK),Nickelback go in at number 1 and sell 5 million??

    What is the answer to 99 out of every 100 questions?

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  • PaulJam
    PaulJam Posts: 163
    DOSW wrote:
    I don't know if this is the case in other countries, but...

    Music just isn't marketed as an art form. It's marketed as something that can make your car rides a little more enjoyable, or your workouts a little easier, or your ringtone a little more catchy. So when 'good' music (i.e. music with any shred of artistic merit) is put out, people don't really want. They don't want something that you can put on a good pair of headphones and just listen to all the way through... that went out of style a long time ago. They want that Nickelback song they heard on the radio, so they buy Now That's What I Call Music 49 and listen to it for about a week and then forget about it. And there's the problem... 'good' music doesn't sell.

    great points.
  • intodeep
    intodeep Posts: 7,249
    biffy clyro wrote:
    NO!NO!NO!

    It's nothing to do with US V UK rock...i'm talking about americans not buying good music(american artists included)the strokes,kings of leon,white stripes are all huge over here,but americans would rather buy and listen to crap like hinder

    Well what do you mean by HUGE?

    Huge like Pearl Jam and Nirvana was in the early 90's?

    Becasue all of those bands are popular here. I think anyone who is a rock music fan knows who they are an likes them. KOL being the exception and i think this album is the one that will put them over the top.
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