Billy Corgan/Smashing Pumpkins

SlowFade
SlowFade Posts: 75
edited December 2006 in Other Music
was insane. I don't think any songwriter can match the quality he had in the "mellon collie" period. Even the b-sides on the Airplane flies high are better than most bands a-sides. He must have written about 10 songs a day back then.
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  • intodeep
    intodeep Posts: 7,249
    SlowFade wrote:
    was insane. I don't think any songwriter can match the quality he had in the "mellon collie" period. Even the b-sides on the Airplane flies high are better than most bands a-sides. He must have written about 10 songs a day back then.

    I agree Billy was writing some very strong stuff at that point, but Neil Young and Bob Dylan both come to mind of having equallly prolific periods of creativity.

    but yeah Billy had the juices going during that time
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  • lalalalaaaaaaaa
    lalalalaaaaaaaa Posts: 2,445
    I agree
  • Gardenparty
    Gardenparty Posts: 1,910
    What do you think are the chances of the new Pumpkins album being any good?

    I'm guessing it will be a big dissapointment, but that means they can easily suprise me with something really good.

    Here's to hoping!
    “I know this song so well, I can smoke a cigarette, have a drink, brush my teeth, take a shit, and mow the lawn while singing it. But I'll only be doing a couple of those things during this version.”
  • darthvedder88
    darthvedder88 Posts: 1,023
    Gardenparty wrote:
    What do you think are the chances of the new Pumpkins album being any good?

    I'm guessing it will be a big dissapointment, but that means they can easily suprise me with something really good.

    Here's to hoping!

    Chances are it's gonna fucking rock because Corgan is gonna come out and make these emo panzies look like shit.
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  • restlesssoul
    restlesssoul Posts: 6,952
    darthvedder88 wrote:
    Chances are it's gonna fucking rock because Corgan is gonna come out and make these emo panzies look like shit.


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  • bharQ
    bharQ Posts: 1,201
    I really really hope so

    he truly was amazing in the early days.. the bsides from gish and Siamese dream are my favourite as far as outtakes go.. of ANY band
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  • The Waiting Trophy Man
    The Waiting Trophy Man Niagara region, Ontario, Canada Posts: 12,158
    when is the new album due?? i love the pumpkins!
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  • prytocorduroy
    prytocorduroy Posts: 4,355
    I know I'll love the new stuff! It's like PJ, it's weird sometimes, but then one day it clicks!

    Anyway Siamese Dream-Mellon Collie, holy fucking shit. Brilliance. I can't get enough of Where Boys Fear to Tread right now, also X.Y.U. and Zero :) Can't forget Jellybelly and Muzzle and In the Arms of Sleep either! The whole fucking album is a masterpiece.

    Don't even get me started on the flawless Siamese Dream :p
  • prytocorduroy
    prytocorduroy Posts: 4,355
    bharQ wrote:
    I really really hope so

    he truly was amazing in the early days.. the bsides from gish and Siamese dream are my favourite as far as outtakes go.. of ANY band
    Slunk! :D
  • Gardenparty
    Gardenparty Posts: 1,910
    I thought the Machina albums were really, really lousy. Also, while Adore was a great record in its own right, it felt like such a letdown after the masterpiece.

    Anybody enjoy the Machina records?

    Corgan was also starting to get on my nerves by that point, so maybe it played in to my feelings for the records
    “I know this song so well, I can smoke a cigarette, have a drink, brush my teeth, take a shit, and mow the lawn while singing it. But I'll only be doing a couple of those things during this version.”
  • prytocorduroy
    prytocorduroy Posts: 4,355
    Gardenparty wrote:
    Anybody enjoy the Machina records?
    :eek:

    MACHINA I and II are awesome! :D There are rough spots, I'll give you that, but Jesus Christ they take me for a ride. I don't care for some of the drumming (sounds like a drum machine sometimes), don't know what Jimmy was thinking, he's fanfuckingtastic!
  • Gardenparty
    Gardenparty Posts: 1,910
    danny72688 wrote:
    :eek:

    MACHINA I and II are awesome! :D There are rough spots, I'll give you that, but Jesus Christ they take me for a ride. I don't care for some of the drumming (sounds like a drum machine sometimes), don't know what Jimmy was thinking, he's fanfuckingtastic!


    So.....if one were looking to revisit Machina 2, how would he/she go about finding it?

    It's been years
    “I know this song so well, I can smoke a cigarette, have a drink, brush my teeth, take a shit, and mow the lawn while singing it. But I'll only be doing a couple of those things during this version.”
  • prytocorduroy
    prytocorduroy Posts: 4,355
    Gardenparty wrote:
    So.....if one were looking to revisit Machina 2, how would he/she go about finding it?

    It's been years
    http://www.billy-corgan.com/index.php?page=mp3s
  • Gardenparty
    Gardenparty Posts: 1,910
    Sweet!

    looks like that's what i'll be doing tonight
    “I know this song so well, I can smoke a cigarette, have a drink, brush my teeth, take a shit, and mow the lawn while singing it. But I'll only be doing a couple of those things during this version.”
  • prytocorduroy
    prytocorduroy Posts: 4,355
    Gardenparty wrote:
    Sweet!

    looks like that's what i'll be doing tonight
    You *must* report back to me and tell me what you think! I love MACHINA II, with the exception of two, maybe three out of fourteen songs.
  • Gardenparty
    Gardenparty Posts: 1,910
    Will do
    “I know this song so well, I can smoke a cigarette, have a drink, brush my teeth, take a shit, and mow the lawn while singing it. But I'll only be doing a couple of those things during this version.”
  • NewJPage
    NewJPage Posts: 3,320
    intodeep wrote:
    I agree Billy was writing some very strong stuff at that point, but Neil Young and Bob Dylan both come to mind of having equallly prolific periods of creativity.

    but yeah Billy had the juices going during that time


    yeah, and along with those two...zappa anyone??? 79 albums and counting...what's billy written, like 8??
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  • MCG
    MCG Posts: 780
    Too bad he did Zwan (that's what it was called wasn't it), some of the worst garbage I've ever heard.
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  • bryanfury
    bryanfury Posts: 461
    i think that soem of the pumpkins stuff is radiohead before radiohead was radiohead (if that makes any sense).

    i also find it funny that radiohead scored big with kid a / amnesiac but machina was panned.
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  • prytocorduroy
    prytocorduroy Posts: 4,355
    MCG wrote:
    Too bad he did Zwan (that's what it was called wasn't it), some of the worst garbage I've ever heard.
    I actually liked the MUSIC of Zwan. The lyrics were way too happy for my taste which ruined it.

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