Billy Corgan/Smashing Pumpkins

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  • "Stand Inside Your Love" has to be one of the greatest songs ever
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  • i'm definitely a huge fan of both machina I and II, and there are times when i enjoy them more than any of the early stuff. every pumpkins album is timeless and i'm hoping the new album will be just as delightful!!
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  • machina and machina 2 are great.....adore was the only weak point, and I do think that corgan's attitude scared off more fans than the music. The new pumpkins record will indeed rule though...but, here's one of my major complaints/love about the band....sometimes they have these great outro's that should have been thier own songs....like the end of through the eyes of ruby, and whir...both of those endings would be great bases of songs....oh well, I guess they fit where they are.
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  • SlowFade wrote:
    sometimes they have these great outro's that should have been thier own songs....like the end of through the eyes of ruby, and whir...both of those endings would be great bases of songs....oh well, I guess they fit where they are.
    I feel the same way. The outros come out of left field for me, they go with the song but could be their own.

    Anyone remember The End is the Beginning is the End? I fucking love that shit!
  • chikevin
    chikevin Posts: 421
    Chances are it's gonna fucking rock because Corgan is gonna come out and make these emo panzies look like shit.
    i expect more of him doing what he did on his 'solo' record. i call it 'solo' b/c it was just him and jimmy.

    billy's too proud to go back to what he abandoned. that's why he's using the SP name...to try and get people to listen to him again.

    don't get me wrong, i loved the guy...but he's gotta recognize what he's doing.
  • r1vers
    r1vers Posts: 244
    "Stand Inside Your Love" has to be one of the greatest songs ever

    hahah seriously. so epic.
    "Last time I think we played that song here was like, a long time ago, and there was a bonfire in the back and people were like throwing each other into it...very exciting days but a huge fucking relief that that's not how it is tonight..." Ed Irvine Night 1 2003, after Deep
  • One of my favourite bands, they are brilliant (it is weird not having to say that in past tense now).

    I'm trying to keep my expectations not too high for the new album to avoid dissapointment.

    Does anyone have news on about when they will release it? I can't seem to find any dates?
  • I-Am-Mine wrote:
    Does anyone have news on about when they will release it? I can't seem to find any dates?
    According to that man himself:

    Q. Who's in the band?
    A. Not telling.


    Q. When is the album coming out?
    A. Soon.


    Q. What does it sound like?
    A. The Smashing Pumpkins.

    Looks good to me so far :)
  • If you haven't already, I encourage you to listen to Pistachio Medley, it's on the Zero singe. It's 25 minutes worth of shorth clips of band demos, most of them rip roaring amazing riffs that any other band would have hailed as their greatest single ever. Billy was so prolific he just had to throw them all together and say F it, there's not enough time for my genius.
  • If you haven't already, I encourage you to listen to Pistachio Medley, it's on the Zero singe. It's 25 minutes worth of shorth clips of band demos, most of them rip roaring amazing riffs that any other band would have hailed as their greatest single ever. Billy was so prolific he just had to throw them all together and say F it, there's not enough time for my genius.

    Yeah, That's Billy for ya. But as for the new Pumpkins, I really really hope Paz Lenchantin is their bassist or Melissa Auf Der Maur. That would be tits!!!!
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  • CAN'T WAIT THE NEW SP ALBUM!!! I adore Machina I & especially Machina II & there won't be happier person alive if the new album would sound like it ( not that I would complain if it would sound a bit like Adore ;-)
    En mi vida,
    el oscuro me mantiene
    cuando yo te vi
    en la lluvia me prometiste tu sangre

    Estrella de la mañana
    Samael te persigo a ti
    y si me quedo sin alas
    ademas me muero por ti
  • I hope it's more like Gish and Siamese Dream. In other words, I hope it's full of great Corgan guitar work.

    I was disappointed to hear things didn't work out with Eric Avery on bass. His Bass lines with Corgan's guitar could have been really amazing.
  • enharmonic
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    It will be a great Pumpkins record. As far as whether or not it will stand up to what amounts to "classic" records like Gish, Siamese Dream, and MCIS...that is a mighty tall order to fill.

    Just keep in mind that Mr. Corgan was a very conflicted, depressed, troubled person in those days. He has since found God and his life has taken a complete 180. Not saying that it will have a good or bad influence on his work...but until I hear it, I will be worried that he's gone Cornell on us.

    No disrespect to Chris. I think it's great that he has a new lease on life and is living clean...just that his Audioslave work doesn't hold a candle to the work he did when he was living his own private hell. I hope that the same fate isn't awaiting Billy...though given the alternative, I'd rather him be happy and making music that I can't relate to, than in the eye of a hurricane making music that's revolutionary.
  • Gardenparty
    Gardenparty Posts: 1,910
    enharmonic wrote:
    It will be a great Pumpkins record. As far as whether or not it will stand up to what amounts to "classic" records like Gish, Siamese Dream, and MCIS...that is a mighty tall order to fill.

    Just keep in mind that Mr. Corgan was a very conflicted, depressed, troubled person in those days. He has since found God and his life has taken a complete 180. Not saying that it will have a good or bad influence on his work...but until I hear it, I will be worried that he's gone Cornell on us.

    No disrespect to Chris. I think it's great that he has a new lease on life and is living clean...just that his Audioslave work doesn't hold a candle to the work he did when he was living his own private hell. I hope that the same fate isn't awaiting Billy...though given the alternative, I'd rather him be happy and making music that I can't relate to, than in the eye of a hurricane making music that's revolutionary.

    Think i'd prefer the latter
    “I know this song so well, I can smoke a cigarette, have a drink, brush my teeth, take a shit, and mow the lawn while singing it. But I'll only be doing a couple of those things during this version.”
  • tonadax
    tonadax Posts: 594
    i really don´t expecting something amazing from them, just an average album with a good media cover...

    good comeback groups would be soundgarden or ratm but it´s 100% imposible...
  • enharmonic wrote:
    It will be a great Pumpkins record. As far as whether or not it will stand up to what amounts to "classic" records like Gish, Siamese Dream, and MCIS...that is a mighty tall order to fill.

    Just keep in mind that Mr. Corgan was a very conflicted, depressed, troubled person in those days. He has since found God and his life has taken a complete 180. Not saying that it will have a good or bad influence on his work...but until I hear it, I will be worried that he's gone Cornell on us.

    No disrespect to Chris. I think it's great that he has a new lease on life and is living clean...just that his Audioslave work doesn't hold a candle to the work he did when he was living his own private hell. I hope that the same fate isn't awaiting Billy...though given the alternative, I'd rather him be happy and making music that I can't relate to, than in the eye of a hurricane making music that's revolutionary.

    i've always felt that once he became big, after MCIS, he lost the gloom that made the pumpkins what they were. so to keep singing about how life sucked, when he was banging supermodels, was just silly.

    i think the music will be tight on this new disc, but i'll reserve judgment on the lyrics until after i hear them!
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  • bryanfury wrote:
    i've always felt that once he became big, after MCIS, he lost the gloom that made the pumpkins what they were. so to keep singing about how life sucked, when he was banging supermodels, was just silly.

    i think the music will be tight on this new disc, but i'll reserve judgment on the lyrics until after i hear them!

    Well you also have to consider the fact that after Mellon Collie when Adore was being released, Corgan claimed he started to become a colder person on the inside, and as previously mentioned, he has found God in his life. However, these emo panzies don't know what "depressed" really is. Only Billy does ;)
    "Darth Vader would say 'Impressive'."

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    6/14/08 Manchester, Tennessee
  • I encourage everyone to buy Pisces Iscariot. A band with B-Sides this good, perhaps on par with Pearl Jam is worth getting back into!

    I love you Billy! :D
  • Julien
    Julien Posts: 2,457
    Mellon collie was a real masterpiece.
    This album was awesome.
    I saw the smashing in Belgium during this tour in April 96 and the show was so incredible...
    With PJ I saw this year, this show is the best I saw...
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