Van Halen and the rock and roll hall of fame

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  • mrwalkerb
    mrwalkerb Posts: 1,015
    PissBottleMan wrote:
    Your line reminded me of the song from Nerf Herder:

    "I bought Women and Children First
    Fair Warning and Van Halen II
    Dance the night away

    PBM


    I bought Van Halen One
    It was the best damn record I ever owned
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  • PissBottleMan
    PissBottleMan Union City, TN Posts: 4,155
    mrwalkerb wrote:
    I bought Van Halen One
    It was the best damn record I ever owned

    I remember Sammy saying on MTV that Nerf Herder wanted him for the video to that song. He said he didn't want to give them any more publicity and fame off that song.

    It is quite catchy.

    PBM
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  • DCGARDEN
    DCGARDEN Posts: 515
    Musically speaking, VanHalen was as gifted a band to come around in a long time. Eddie did re-define a generation of players, they've sold millions of albums, played before millions of fans.

    I'd take them over the sh*t that is Bon Jovi anyday, and I don't doubt Bon Jovi will be there one day either.

    Deal with it
    I'll keep taking punches
    Untill their will grows tired
  • mrwalkerb
    mrwalkerb Posts: 1,015
    DCGARDEN wrote:
    Musically speaking, VanHalen was as gifted a band to come around in a long time. Eddie did re-define a generation of players, they've sold millions of albums, played before millions of fans.

    I'd take them over the sh*t that is Bon Jovi anyday, and I don't doubt Bon Jovi will be there one day either.

    Deal with it

    but here's the thing everything that people have said here with the exception of the actual guitar play (which granted could be the most important part I guess) could just as well be talking about Bon Jovi and I mean BJ-tee hee- has lasted longer and been way more successfull over the last 10-15 years than van halen
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  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    mrwalkerb wrote:
    but here's the thing everything that people have said here with the exception of the actual guitar play (which granted could be the most important part I guess) could just as well be talking about Bon Jovi and I mean BJ-tee hee- has lasted longer and been way more successfull over the last 10-15 years than van halen

    The percentage of acts in th HOF that have been relevant in the last 10-15 years is minuscule. The HOF is meant to salute and honor acts from the history of rock and roll.
  • Lizard
    Lizard So Cal Posts: 12,091
    ^^
    Exactly. By the time they make it in, they are not BIG usually. But they were at a time. Like Van Halen was!!

    :)
    So I'll just lie down and wait for the dream
    Where I'm not ugly and you're lookin' at me
  • JOEJOEJOE
    JOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,829
    cutback wrote:
    The percentage of acts in th HOF that have been relevant in the last 10-15 years is minuscule. The HOF is meant to salute and honor acts from the history of rock and roll.

    I agree that its an honor for the past, but do you think recent activity (Gary Cherone, dodgy reunion tour with Sammy) should be considered a demerit?
  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    JOEJOEJOE wrote:
    I agree that its an honor for the past, but do you think recent activity (Gary Cherone, dodgy reunion tour with Sammy) should be considered a demerit?

    No. In my opinion, VH is being honored for the years 1977-1985. Although they had early sucess with Sammy, it just wasn't the same. I think VH broke up in 1985. The rest was just EVH jerking off.:)
  • JOEJOEJOE
    JOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,829
    cutback wrote:
    No. In my opinion, VH is being honored for the years 1977-1985. Although they had early sucess with Sammy, it just wasn't the same. I think VH broke up in 1985. The rest was just EVH jerking off.:)

    I think it kills the legend of a band when they carry-on too long, or when "EVH jerks off"....I hope if more then 1 or 2 members of PJ decide to call it quits, the band will opt out.

    Not that its a perfect comparison, but look what Axel has done to the G N R name!
  • PissBottleMan
    PissBottleMan Union City, TN Posts: 4,155
    I like the Dave-era stuff too, but you can discount Sammy's contribution to the band.

    ...and I can't believe I've been reduced to defending the Sammy stuff. ;)

    They had a lot of success from '85-'96...was it the same as the early stuff...nah...but, they were still a great rock band.

    PBM
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  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    PissBottleMan wrote:
    I like the Dave-era stuff too, but you can discount Sammy's contribution to the band.

    ...and I can't believe I've been reduced to defending the Sammy stuff. ;)

    They had a lot of success from '85-'96...was it the same as the early stuff...nah...but, they were still a great rock band.

    PBM

    hahahahaha


    I think the Sammy era should be included. I didn't phrase my post correctly. What if VH had broken up when DLR left? Are they HOF worthy? I say yes.
  • PissBottleMan
    PissBottleMan Union City, TN Posts: 4,155
    cutback wrote:
    I think the Sammy era should be included. I didn't phrase my post correctly. What if VH had broken up when DLR left? Are they HOF worthy? I say yes.

    What's funny is that I was anti-Sammy for a long while. But, he seems like a down-to-earth guy...I might not like his stuff with VH as much, but he seems like a good guy.

    PBM
    "We paced ourselves and we didn't rush through it and we tried to be as creative as our collective minds would let us be over some course of time instead of just trying to rush through a record"

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  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    PissBottleMan wrote:
    What's funny is that I was anti-Sammy for a long while. But, he seems like a down-to-earth guy...I might not like his stuff with VH as much, but he seems like a good guy.

    PBM

    Yeah I have nothin' love for Sammy. But DLR was engine that ran VH. With Sammy it was just a good hard rock band.
  • Pearl Jam and toast
    Pearl Jam and toast Posts: 4,475
    transplant wrote:
    despite the fact that their first 4 discs are awesome, from what my guitar friends tell me, EVH pretty much redefined how many play the guitar. They aren't necessarily VH fans however they are blown away by how good the guy is. They don't put him in the Hendrix category obviously but they were hard pressed to come up with others that have redefined how rock guitar is played.

    One can also argue that when he wasn't wasted beyond recognition, DLR was one hell of a frontman.

    And besides, Zakk Wylde said he is the greatest :)

    ok, last edit. I will admit to being surprised that anyone who likes rock music can't appreciate the DLR era.
    Van Halen was the leader of the monstrosity that nearly killed rock music called "Hair Metal".

    About hair metal..

    - Worst lyrics in history (and I mean ALL history. Pre-grecian to present day).

    - They turned the EQ on their amps up all the way so every single goddamn note that douchebag eddie van halen plays gives you a headache (that's every hair metal guitar player, not just Van Halen)

    - They all sounded exactly the fucking same.

    - Does every hair metal song need a chorus with 10 vocal tracks layered over eachother? Yes. And it's annoying as fucking hell. Also see the above bullet.


    Etc etc etc... Thank god for R.E.M. and The Cure helping humanity through that nightmare and Pearl Jam ad Nirvana for killing the beast.



    And Zach Wylde can burn in hell. Guess what this is...

    *shred**shred**shred**shred**pinch harmonic**pinch harmonic**pinch harmonic**pinch harmonic**pinch harmonic**shred*shred*shred*shred**pinch harmonic**pinch harmonic**pinch harmonic**pinch harmonic**pinch harmonic**pinch harmonic**pinch harmonic**pinch harmonic**pinch harmonic**pinch harmonic**pinch harmonic**pinch harmonic**pinch harmonic**shred*..



    That's every Zach Wylde song. I found a Black Sabbath bootleg from the 90s when he was with them,... That dickhole ruined War Pigs. He fuckign ruined it. It's so full of pinch harmonics and random shredding he rendered it unlistenable. Fuck him.
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  • locked
    locked Boston Posts: 4,048
    they were at their best with "Fair Warning"..

    That guitar opening to "mean streets" is the balls..

    having stated that, VH remains the worst concert I ever attended..

    I saw them in 1980 at the Cape Cod Collesium during their "women and children first" tour..

    They played 50 (count 'em) 50 minutes as the headliner and were awful..
    just awfull..

    Roth didn't even attempt to sing the words on cue and laughed through most on the songs..

    the sound mix was so bad, you couldn;t tell when one song ended and another began..
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  • transplant
    transplant Posts: 1,088
    ya got a few issues to work out there Pearl Jam and toast? Hilarious.

    VH in the Hall was a no brainer, should have happened earlier.
  • PissBottleMan
    PissBottleMan Union City, TN Posts: 4,155
    Pearl Jam and toast wrote:
    Van Halen was the leader of the monstrosity that nearly killed rock music called "Hair Metal".

    Yeah, but the sweet isn't as sweet without the sour.

    It's a mindless good time. Some times, you want to turn off your brain and enjoy the ride.

    This is why I have White Lion, Poison, Warrant and Enuff Z'nuff on my iPod in addition to the well-respected bands you listed. :)

    PBM
    "We paced ourselves and we didn't rush through it and we tried to be as creative as our collective minds would let us be over some course of time instead of just trying to rush through a record"

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  • Pearl Jam and toast
    Pearl Jam and toast Posts: 4,475
    PissBottleMan wrote:
    Yeah, but the sweet isn't as sweet without the sour.

    It's a mindless good time. Some times, you want to turn off your brain and enjoy the ride.

    This is why I have White Lion, Poison, Warrant and Enuff Z'nuff on my iPod in addition to the well-respected bands you listed. :)

    PBM
    You enjoy it :p

    Yes I have a big issue with hair metal I think that's rather clear. ;)
    Come on pilgrim you know he loves you..

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    Oh my, they dropped the leash.



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  • mrwalkerb
    mrwalkerb Posts: 1,015
    Pearl Jam and toast wrote:
    Van Halen was the leader of the monstrosity that nearly killed rock music called "Hair Metal".

    About hair metal..

    - Worst lyrics in history (and I mean ALL history. Pre-grecian to present day).

    - They turned the EQ on their amps up all the way so every single goddamn note that douchebag eddie van halen plays gives you a headache (that's every hair metal guitar player, not just Van Halen)

    - They all sounded exactly the fucking same.

    - Does every hair metal song need a chorus with 10 vocal tracks layered over eachother? Yes. And it's annoying as fucking hell. Also see the above bullet.


    Etc etc etc... Thank god for R.E.M. and The Cure helping humanity through that nightmare and Pearl Jam ad Nirvana for killing the beast.



    And Zach Wylde can burn in hell. Guess what this is...

    *shred**shred**shred**shred**pinch harmonic**pinch harmonic**pinch harmonic**pinch harmonic**pinch harmonic**shred*shred*shred*shred**pinch harmonic**pinch harmonic**pinch harmonic**pinch harmonic**pinch harmonic**pinch harmonic**pinch harmonic**pinch harmonic**pinch harmonic**pinch harmonic**pinch harmonic**pinch harmonic**pinch harmonic**shred*..



    That's every Zach Wylde song. I found a Black Sabbath bootleg from the 90s when he was with them,... That dickhole ruined War Pigs. He fuckign ruined it. It's so full of pinch harmonics and random shredding he rendered it unlistenable. Fuck him.


    Sounds about right (although I see motley crue as a worse offender), see the reason I love Pearl Jam and Nirvana etc so much is because they killed all that shit. The thing that I always find odd is there are people on here that feel the same way as me but there are still all kinds of people (many of those who are populating this thread) who seem to just like rocking out.
    "I'm not suicidal, except when I drink. That's why we don't all drink at the same time, there'd be no-one alive to drive home..."
    Chris Cornell

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  • PissBottleMan
    PissBottleMan Union City, TN Posts: 4,155
    mrwalkerb wrote:
    The thing that I always find odd is there are people on here that feel the same way as me but there are still all kinds of people (many of those who are populating this thread) who seem to just like rocking out.

    I like music that challenges me, but I'm a sucker for a power ballad or a sugary pop song. I embrace all types of music...good or bad. :D

    PBM
    "We paced ourselves and we didn't rush through it and we tried to be as creative as our collective minds would let us be over some course of time instead of just trying to rush through a record"

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