Traveling Wilburys CDs reissued with care

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  • Sludge Factory
    Sludge Factory Posts: 976
    robfest2 wrote:
    But why would you assume they would do a bad job remastering the CDs?

    Most, if not all, music that isn't country music these days is mastered or produced way too loud. So, it stands to reason that someone knowing this would assume that a new release that was remastered would be done poorly.

    http://www.cdmasteringservices.com/dynamicrange.htm

    Edit: For addition link content.

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2007250708,00.html
    http://www.cdmasteringservices.com/dynamicdeath.htm
    http://music.guardian.co.uk/pop/story/0,,1992465,00.html#article

    and a great short video that explains it all can be found at the bottom of the page found by following the first link. All the other links can be found there, too.
  • robfest2
    robfest2 Posts: 594
    Sludge Factory wrote:
    Most, if not all, music that isn't country music these days is mastered or produced way too loud. So, it stands to reason that someone knowing this would assume that a new release that was remastered would be done poorly.


    BS

    The CDs sound great
  • Evacuation Rules
    Evacuation Rules Posts: 2,162
    I just got my copy and have inspected the sound. It's a bit loud and compressed, but not offensively so. The problem for me is that it's way too fucking bright...WAY too bright. Just the first 20 seconds of the first song was enough to give me a headache in headphones. There is sibilance everywhere. The original CD is far more pleasant to listen to, but that's typical these days. Most people will think the remaster sounds better because it's louder and brighter (which translates as "clearer" to the uninformed.)
  • Evacuation Rules
    Evacuation Rules Posts: 2,162
    robfest2 wrote:
    BS

    The CDs sound great

    Yeah, but the originals sound much better.
  • robfest2
    robfest2 Posts: 594
    JWBusher wrote:
    Yeah, but the originals sound much better.


    If you say so:rolleyes:
  • CM1847
    CM1847 Posts: 577
    While I'm impressed that people have the ability to pick out differences like those, I am very glad that I personally do not have that particular ability, it seems like it would make enjoying music much more difficult than it should be.
  • aNiMaL
    aNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    Considering I have never owned either volume on CD....and I only own volume 1 on LP.....I am stoked as all get out about picking up the these CDs.
  • Evacuation Rules
    Evacuation Rules Posts: 2,162
    All in all I think these reissues are very good and I'm glad people can buy these again and discover this great music!
  • robfest2
    robfest2 Posts: 594
    JWBusher wrote:
    I've been told that the remasters are too bright because they're HDCD encoded so they'll sound too bright if you don't have a decoder...so that explains the brightness! All in all I think these reissues are very good and I'm glad people can buy these again and discover this great music!
    Who are these people who tell you all this shit? And how did they get so cool?:rolleyes:
  • Sludge Factory
    Sludge Factory Posts: 976
    robfest2 wrote:
    BS

    The CDs sound great


    I would question your standards then...
  • Evacuation Rules
    Evacuation Rules Posts: 2,162
    robfest2 wrote:
    Who are these people who tell you all this shit? And how did they get so cool?:rolleyes:

    Huh? What's YOUR problem? Fuck off if you have nothing constructive to say.
  • Evacuation Rules
    Evacuation Rules Posts: 2,162
    I was wrong about the HDCD thing...these discs are not HDCD encoded, so they actually ARE way too bright.
  • aNiMaL
    aNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    JWBusher wrote:
    All in all I think these reissues are very good and I'm glad people can buy these again and discover this great music!
    I think we can all agree with that, JWBusher! I only discovered the TW about 4 or 5 years ago. So for me, this is terrific news.
  • Sludge Factory
    Sludge Factory Posts: 976
    Yeah, I definitely agree that this is fucking awesome news! It just disappointments me with how many people think that something is better if it is now remastered to today's standards because most of the time that isn't the case and things sound even worse. In many cases it isn't even the mastering engineers fault...
  • robfest2
    robfest2 Posts: 594
    Sludge Factory wrote:
    I would question your standards then...

    Question away
    JWBusher wrote:
    Huh? What's YOUR problem? Fuck off if you have nothing constructive to say.

    Not nice
    JWBusher wrote:
    I was wrong about the HDCD thing...these discs are not HDCD encoded, so they actually ARE way too bright.

    I guess Your people failed you





    OK here is something constructive. By analyze the music so closely you take all the fun out of it.


    Put the CDs on sit back and enjoy it!!!
  • Sludge Factory
    Sludge Factory Posts: 976
    robfest2 wrote:
    Question away


    OK here is something constructive. By analyze the music so closely you take all the fun out of it.


    Put the CDs on sit back and enjoy it!!!

    Your arguments are laughable. By stating that I should just put the CDs back on and enjoy is quite ironic. Am I supposed to not listen to the music at all. I thought the point of listening to music was to actually hear it and with how loud things are getting you are just getting voices sung over distortion. Not to mention how fatiguing it can be to sit through a whole CD these days. A great example is Pearl Jam's new CD. It is way too loud and I will lose interest in it after awhile or get a headache due to the distortion of things. This has nothing to do with the quality of the musicianship as the songs on that CD are some of my favorite.

    I don't analyze music too closely, but when all the instruments sound squished together it is disappointing and not even close to what it would sound like if played live.

    I think it would do you good to actually read some of the links I posted or to at least watch this video.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Gmex_4hreQ
  • patrickredeyes
    patrickredeyes Posts: 8,834
    I'm going to pick one up tomorrow b4 work. :D
  • Evacuation Rules
    Evacuation Rules Posts: 2,162
    robfest2 wrote:
    By analyze the music so closely you take all the fun out of it.

    Put the CDs on sit back and enjoy it!!!

    I don't like it when music sounds like shit, and I thought it was worth mentioning that these new remasters aren't necessary if you still have the old discs. If that's crazy to you, then keep your smart ass comments and eye rolls to yourself. Just because you have no standards doesn't mean you should criticize mine.
  • robfest2
    robfest2 Posts: 594
    Sludge Factory and JWBusher, if the CDs are so bad maybe you should sell your copies. But I will enjoy mine and the BS talk about too bright and all that shit will not stop me.
  • Sludge Factory
    Sludge Factory Posts: 976
    robfest2 wrote:
    Sludge Factory and JWBusher, if the CDs are so bad maybe you should sell your copies. But I will enjoy mine and the BS talk about too bright and all that shit will not stop me.


    I'm not trying to stop you. I'm just trying to open your mind to the fact that it isn't just bullshit talk and that there are real valid concerns here. Just because you deem something to be good doesn't make it necessarily so; in your mind, maybe, but the reality of things can be different at times.

    Suggesting that we sell our copies just because we feel they could be better is ignorant. Constructive criticism is used to help point out problems so as to avoid them in the future. If you just happily accept everything thrown your way you end up in the dilemma that companies like Ford have going on. Their internal structure was so messed up prior to their new CEO that the engineers would just accept things as mediocre products and avoid answering to failure.

    If I have a sink full of dirty dishes I'm not just going to ignore them or sell them away. That doesn't fix the problem at all, nay, I am going to work at a possible solution so I can enjoy those dishes in all their splendid glory and use them as intended.

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