dragonforce?

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i am a target Posts: 808
edited June 2008 in Other Music
anyone here seen them live? i'm considering going. not a huge fan but seeing those guys play guitar live must be insane. for anyone not familiar with the band watch this video. and yes. they do really play that fast. i've seen studio clips of them playing on youtube. quite possibly the worst lyrics ever. but hey. thats metal. the only song i know well is "through the fire and flames".

http://youtube.com/user/dragonforceofficial?ob=4

(just fastfoward to 3:22 if you want to see what i'm talking about)
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  • Jellyrolls
    Jellyrolls Posts: 523
    I have never seen them live, but the two guitarists puts every guitarist (except maybe 4-5) out there to shame. A lot of people here won't agree with me but they won't have a good argument to prove me wrong.
  • mole1985
    mole1985 Posts: 1,119
    hate to burst your bubble but Dragonforce use computers for their guitar solos, a friend of mine has seen them live and they just arn't that good.
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  • transplant
    transplant Posts: 1,088
    I would also go, just to hear the guitar players however I think my head would pop off sitting through a whole show.
  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    Jellyrolls wrote:
    I have never seen them live, but the two guitarists puts every guitarist (except maybe 4-5) out there to shame. A lot of people here won't agree with me but they won't have a good argument to prove me wrong.
    Here's an argument for you:

    Speed =/= good musician.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • pjalive21
    pjalive21 St. Louis, MO Posts: 2,818
    mole1985 wrote:
    hate to burst your bubble but Dragonforce use computers for their guitar solos, a friend of mine has seen them live and they just arn't that good.

    ummmm tell your friend to open up his eyes...saw them in the states here in Missouri with Killswitch Engage and Chaimara and they def played their guitars fully and brought the house down

    go see them if you can
  • mole1985
    mole1985 Posts: 1,119
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMilaKqOMok&feature=related

    Hardley inspiring....
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  • transplant
    transplant Posts: 1,088
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    Here's an argument for you:

    Speed =/= good musician.
    Though I don't judge how good a musician is by how fast they can play, the fact they CAN play that fast, whether you like the music or not is very impressive.

    I remember watching a YouTube clip here awhile back with some artist performing a slide guitar unlike anything I have ever heard. I remember everyone agreeing (rightfully so) that it was freaking awesome. Well, I guess I don't see that much of a difference between that and what someone like a Malmsteen/Buckethead/these Dragonforce guys can do.
  • Jellyrolls
    Jellyrolls Posts: 523
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    Here's an argument for you:

    Speed =/= good musician.

    That is the number one argument against these two players. I agree with you, but they play some amazingly hard notes...and then they boost the speed up on it. I'd like to see some of the cliche "greatest guitarists of all time" play like these two do.
  • eyedclaar
    eyedclaar Posts: 6,980
    Jellyrolls wrote:
    but they play some amazingly hard notes...

    I'm not sure I know any amazingly hard notes to play on a guitar, well, except for the Q Sharp. That one is hard...
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  • Django
    Django Posts: 152
    They can play, but the music is just ridiculous.

    I'm amazed that younger rock fans take it seriously. Its sooo corny.
  • mole1985
    mole1985 Posts: 1,119
    Django wrote:
    They can play, but the music is just ridiculous.

    I'm amazed that younger rock fans take it seriously. Its sooo corny.

    they put one of their major influences from computer games!!! lol
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  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    transplant wrote:
    Though I don't judge how good a musician is by how fast they can play, the fact they CAN play that fast, whether you like the music or not is very impressive.

    I remember watching a YouTube clip here awhile back with some artist performing a slide guitar unlike anything I have ever heard. I remember everyone agreeing (rightfully so) that it was freaking awesome. Well, I guess I don't see that much of a difference between that and what someone like a Malmsteen/Buckethead/these Dragonforce guys can do.
    The amazing slide guitar probably had a modicum of musicality to go along with the technical proficiency. The guitarists from Dragonforce play sped-up Nintendo music like robots and, as someone mentioned earlier, their sound is SO computer processed it's unbelievable. You ever hear guitar tones like that anywhere else? they sound like rayguns. I'd be careful before assuming it's only the tones they've doctored.

    I don't utterly disregard all "shredders". Steve Vai is technically absurd but knows when to play tastefully. Much of his "slow" music is as awful as his shred but the guy at least tries to make a composition rather than a scalar exercise in fret-burning.

    And by the way, I appreciate what you're saying but I don't want to be impressed by music, I want to be moved by it.
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  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    Jellyrolls wrote:
    That is the number one argument against these two players. I agree with you, but they play some amazingly hard notes...and then they boost the speed up on it. I'd like to see some of the cliche "greatest guitarists of all time" play like these two do.
    uh...

    :o I don't really know what to say to that other than the fact that all guitar notes are of equal difficulty to play.


    If it makes you feel better, I don't particularly rate Clapton, Page, Brian May, any of those at all.
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  • Django
    Django Posts: 152
    Shredding aside, I just find the cock rock cheeseyness of dragonforce embarrassing. Even the name make's me cringe.
  • pjalive21
    pjalive21 St. Louis, MO Posts: 2,818
    Django wrote:
    Shredding aside, I just find the cock rock cheeseyness of dragonforce embarrassing. Even the name make's me cringe.

    you must think the same of Iron Maiden then...so embarassing let me tell you..please
  • pjalive21
    pjalive21 St. Louis, MO Posts: 2,818
    mole1985 wrote:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMilaKqOMok&feature=related

    Hardley inspiring....

    i hope you were joking..haha

    i would like to see you play that song
  • keeponrockin
    keeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    Jellyrolls wrote:
    That is the number one argument against these two players. I agree with you, but they play some amazingly hard notes...and then they boost the speed up on it. I'd like to see some of the cliche "greatest guitarists of all time" play like these two do.
    I'd like to see these guys play with the soul and musicality of the all time greats.
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  • OUTHOUSE
    OUTHOUSE Posts: 39
    Dragonforce is lame.

    They all look like a bunch of dorks. Their lyrics are shit and there mastebatory guitar solos while fast are still boring.

    Other than that they are tolerable I guess.
  • Jellyrolls
    Jellyrolls Posts: 523
    keeponrockin wrote:
    I'd like to see these guys play with the soul and musicality of the all time greats.

    Play with soul? Lol.

    Anyways on the flipside.. I'd like to see these 'all time greats' play some of the shit herman li does. I will be the first to tell you that I am not really a fan of Dragonforce at all.. actually I agree with the stuff being said about them such as being lame, but I can get past that stuff and tell that they have 2 truly amazing guitarist.

    I would probably be right to say that half of you think that Mccready is a better guitarist than Herman Li. Not taking away ANYTHING from Mike, but no.
  • Igottago
    Igottago Posts: 483
    When did D & D players decide to start bands? Wow, they can play super fast..must be all that time playing video games that got their fingers so fast. Boring and cheesey as hell.

    I can play 2 notes that are a more enjoyable listen than that stuff.

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