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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,594
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    No one is saying there's anything wrong with harmless fun music. The only dispute here is between those who are saying the guys from Dragonforce are the best guitarists around and those of us who think that's ludicrous because hyper speed and video game effects does not a good guitarist make.

    Defining great guitar playing is about as subjective as you can get. If someone's into speed and acrobatics then, yeah, DragonForce will be right up their alley. What's to argue?
  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    pjl44 wrote:
    Defining great guitar playing is about as subjective as you can get. If someone's into speed and acrobatics then, yeah, DragonForce will be right up their alley. What's to argue?
    That they aren't even good as far as acrobatics go? They're sloppy, over-produced, computerised and lack inventiveness in their solos. All they have is speed.
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  • Jellyrolls
    Jellyrolls Posts: 523
    Lol you really do hate these two guitarists. And the way you throw the word "musician" gets confusing. To say they aren't creative makes you sound like a deaf fool.
  • keeponrockin
    keeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    Jellyrolls wrote:
    Lol you really do hate these two guitarists. And the way you throw the word "musician" gets confusing. To say they aren't creative makes you sound like a deaf fool.
    Please tell me what is creative about playing really fast. Is it IMPRESSIVE, yes. Creative, I don't see it.
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  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    Jellyrolls wrote:
    Lol you really do hate these two guitarists. And the way you throw the word "musician" gets confusing. To say they aren't creative makes you sound like a deaf fool.
    I really don't think it does.

    I don't hate them at all. As I have said, I have no problem with them making music. Doesn't harm me. All I am doing is stating a FACT which is that they are not some of the best guitarists out there. They are no better than a million bedroom shredders posting videos on youtube. They are technically accomplished and perhaps fun to some but to state that they are great musicians and creative really plays around with the concept of what music is. Last time I checked, it wasn't about playing faster than your peers.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • lastexit
    lastexit 10923 Posts: 259
    That shit is god-awful. They can move their fingers really fast though!
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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,594
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    That they aren't even good as far as acrobatics go? They're sloppy, over-produced, computerised and lack inventiveness in their solos. All they have is speed.

    Have you seen them live? I have and there's nothing sloppy or over-produced about it. If it's not your thing, that's cool. It's just that declaring "facts" about what makes a guitar player great comes off goofy.

    For what it's worth, I don't consider them "great," but can see how someone else might. And you realize it's supposed to be over-the-top and tongue-in-cheek, right?
  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    pjl44 wrote:
    And you realize it's supposed to be over-the-top and tongue-in-cheek, right?
    No kidding. I thought they were trying to be philosophical and deep :rolleyes:
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • brooksyinc
    brooksyinc Posts: 16
    I seriously want to see them live. They are a great band from what i've heard of their music and hearing them live would be in-freaking-sane!
    Enough! I grow weary of your sexually suggestive dancing. Bring me my ranch dressing hose!