Frusciante, Mayer and Trucks...
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This is cool to watch. There's a video of them jamming together and talking about their love of guitar.
http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2007/02/07/watch-our-new-guitar-gods-doing-what-they-do-best-playing-live-and-loud/
http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2007/02/07/watch-our-new-guitar-gods-doing-what-they-do-best-playing-live-and-loud/
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Let's face it, Frusciante doesn't belong in the same room as derek trucks (and mayer to a lesser extent) when it comes to sheer talent.Pj_Gurl wrote:This is cool to watch. There's a video of them jamming together and talking about their love of guitar.
http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2007/02/07/watch-our-new-guitar-gods-doing-what-they-do-best-playing-live-and-loud/
creative? yes. talented? much less so.0 -
there are a lot of people who would disagree with you there, but u possibly are correct,
but id like to see derek trucks make 6 impressive (not dud) albums in six months, all being a different style
and right now im to lazy to go check if he has done that,
but cool video0 -
Well, i didn't post the link to get into a he is better than him debate, but i do think Frusciante can hold his head up high in the same room as them. I just thought it was really cool to see them having fun and hanging out and talking about their love of guitar.0
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Thanks for posting, that's what jamming is all about, not who's better than the next.SIN EATERS--We take the moral excrement we find in this equation and we bury it down deep inside of us so that the rest of our case can stay pure. That is the job. We are morally indefensible and absolutely necessary.0
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Thanks.THANK YOU, LOSTDAWG!
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i got that, but the article is about the "new guitar gods" or something like that. Frusciante has never made me sit back and think, "wow, that man sure can play," like derek trucks and john mayer.Pj_Gurl wrote:Well, i didn't post the link to get into a he is better than him debate, but i do think Frusciante can hold his head up high in the same room as them. I just thought it was really cool to see them having fun and hanging out and talking about their love of guitar.0 -
I totally disagree with you on subject of John Frusciante. To me, he's the greatest guitar player of today. Having been into him for many years and having been running the biggest website in the world about him for more than 3 years (http://www.invisible-movement.net , feel free to check it out), I have probably spent months viewing videos of him play, listening to him play and I had the pleasure of standing 1.5 metres away from him on one of the most inspired performances he gave with RHCP in 2006 in Vienna. The man can play, he feels every single note he's playing, his fingers move accross the fretboard at an enormous speed. When I was photographing him at Green Fest in 2007, I didn't manage to photograph his fingers during Don't Forget Me. And, I don't know how familiar people here are with his solo albums, but the variety of styles on them is, well, immense.
Didn't you notice that Mayer and Trucks were not able to follow him? He was told by the RS staff to play a bit more "bluesy", in order to synch with them. He's amazing on both acoustic and electric guitar, he definitely deserves to be there and in any other classification on great guitar players.
And he's not only a guitar player, he's also an amazing singer, he's quite good on piano, he's one of the most innovative musicians of today.0 -
Iva... wrote:I totally disagree with you on subject of John Frusciante. To me, he's the greatest guitar player of today. Having been into him for many years and having been running the biggest website in the world about him for more than 3 years (http://www.invisible-movement.net , feel free to check it out), I have probably spent months viewing videos of him play, listening to him play and I had the pleasure of standing 1.5 metres away from him on one of the most inspired performances he gave with RHCP in 2006 in Vienna. The man can play, he feels every single note he's playing, his fingers move accross the fretboard at an enormous speed. When I was photographing him at Green Fest in 2007, I didn't manage to photograph his fingers during Don't Forget Me. And, I don't know how familiar people here are with his solo albums, but the variety of styles on them is, well, immense.
Didn't you notice that Mayer and Trucks were not able to follow him? He was told by the RS staff to play a bit more "bluesy", in order to synch with them. He's amazing on both acoustic and electric guitar, he definitely deserves to be there and in any other classification on great guitar players.
And he's not only a guitar player, he's also an amazing singer, he's quite good on piano, he's one of the most innovative musicians of today.
have you heard derek trucks?0 -
cool vid & all amazing guitarists, thanks for posting
i'll never forget when i heard derek trucks play with clapton live, put simply it blew my mind0 -
I've seen Frusciante live a few times and he was terrible. Worst live lead guitarist I have ever seen. Could not pull off a solo to save his ass.SLC 11/2/95, Park City 6/21/98, Boise 11/3/00, Seattle 12/9/02, Vancouver 5/30/03, Gorge 9/1/05, Vancouver 9/2/05, Gorge 7/22/06, Gorge 7/23/06, Camden I 6/19/08, MSG I 6/24/08, MSG II 6/25/08, Hartford 6/27/08, Mansfield II 6/30/08; Eddie Albany 6/8/09, 6/9/09; Philly 10/30/09, 10/31/09; Boston 5/17/10
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Though they are all decent players in their own right, I don't feel Frusciante is on the same level as Trucks or Mayer.
I know that there are die hard Frus fans (hence Iva’s site - there are many Mayer and Trucks fan sites). Frusciante
doesn't seem to be as much of a deep blues inspired player as say Mayer or Trucks, so he didn't really fit with the
others (and I think we can all agree that their jam was just an entirely staged photo shoot, complete CRAP, and
by far not representative of their playing as a whole - I know they can all play much better than that - photo shoot).
Luckily, I've had the opportunity to play with both Mayer and Trucks, and for me I'd say that Trucks is probably the
most inspiring and virtuosic player of the bunch (Frusciante has just always seemed to be off in his own little world).
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Why does everything have to be over analyzed. I enjoyed their stories about when they first started playing, but that's just me. That's the bits i took out of the interview. Like back when they were young, they were no different that us, they just wanted to play guitar. Of course it was 'staged', that's the rollingstone for you. I didn't watch it expecting them to come out and justify their greatness by playing an 18-string guitar and creating the "J" chord.0
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me too. i saw them around this time last year, and trucks was simply awesome. he was hanging back a bit at first, more than happy for clapton to take the limelight, which was very humble of him. when he opened up he was just amazing. they did little wing together, was so cool, and trucks playing in the outro to layla was brilliant. awesome to watch him live.Voiceless wrote:i'll never forget when i heard derek trucks play with clapton live, put simply it blew my mind0 -
on the issue with john frusciante can i add that he doesnt delve into blues nearly as much as the others, and yeh he did seem to be in his own little world, but he's always like that0
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I'd agree with you there, not quite to the same extent, but yes his solos are pretty nasty at times. Now and again he'll do something that will make me think "wow, maybe this guy isn't as bad as I thought" but then the next song will consist of one note being bent with feedback for 2 minutes in the place of a "guitar solo". And don't say he "feels every note" just because he puts a pained expression on his face. Anyone can do that.nathanastin wrote:I've seen Frusciante live a few times and he was terrible. Worst live lead guitarist I have ever seen. Could not pull off a solo to save his ass.0 -
As far as John Mayer is concerned. He is the best guitar player that i hate. I do not like his interperation of the blues at all. I find everything he does in terrible taste. However... His talent though is unquestionable. I have no grounds to dislike him other than my opinion but it is a really strong one. When i'm playing i make sure i sound nothing like him.
Then again what would you expect from someone who's favourite guitar players are stone gossard and dan from the black keys.0 -
I'm a fan, i just ignore the elevator music he puts out. 'Try' is a damn good blues rock album, it really show cases his talent.leethal wrote:As far as John Mayer is concerned. He is the best guitar player that i hate. I do not like his interperation of the blues at all. I find everything he does in terrible taste. However... His talent though is unquestionable. I have no grounds to dislike him other than my opinion but it is a really strong one. When i'm playing i make sure i sound nothing like him.
Then again what would you expect from someone who's favourite guitar players are stone gossard and dan from the black keys.0 -
leethal wrote:As far as John Mayer is concerned. He is the best guitar player that i hate. I do not like his interperation of the blues at all. I find everything he does in terrible taste. However... His talent though is unquestionable. I have no grounds to dislike him other than my opinion but it is a really strong one. When i'm playing i make sure i sound nothing like him.
Then again what would you expect from someone who's favourite guitar players are stone gossard and dan from the black keys.
That makes sense, because Stone couldn't play Blues to save his life.0 -
Mike_Muse_Rage wrote:And don't say he "feels every note" just because he puts a pained expression on his face. Anyone can do that.
I'm not even gonna get into the whole "he feels it" thing because that is just a stupid argument and you apparently just think it's an act anyway. But what I will say is that Frusciante blows Mayer out of the water because he doesn't just regurgitate the same blues licks we have been hearing all of our lives. Mayer, while his fingers can move, hardly ever brings anything new to the table, and he just gets old to me.
Frusciante's solos are awesome, but that again is all a matter of opinion.
Derek Trucks just kicks fuckin' ass, and I love to listen to him. Would STILL rather go see Frusciante any day though because I love all of the stuff he has written.And before his first step... He's off again...0 -
Mike_Muse_Rage wrote:I'd agree with you there, not quite to the same extent, but yes his solos are pretty nasty at times. Now and again he'll do something that will make me think "wow, maybe this guy isn't as bad as I thought" but then the next song will consist of one note being bent with feedback for 2 minutes in the place of a "guitar solo". And don't say he "feels every note" just because he puts a pained expression on his face. Anyone can do that.
one note this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCvZgxeMNDE0
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