Qestion about eddies range

leethal
leethal Posts: 134
edited December 2006 in Musicians and Gearheads
Im a guitar player not a singer and i don't know a great deal of theory...

I've heard that most people have a vocal range of 2 and a half octaves. What is eddies range? I've heard eddie hit a low D (Dead Man) and a high A (In hiding) what is his range then?
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  • HailHailVitalogy
    HailHailVitalogy Posts: 6,020
    he's deffinantly hit higher...i'm not a singer either so I don't know what his range is
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  • enharmonic
    enharmonic Posts: 1,917
    Ed's a baritone with about 2.5 octaves of good voice. when I say good, I mean sounds that his voice will make without him having to push above his range. He has more notes, but they are not a natural part of his voice.
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  • Dirty Mosquito
    Dirty Mosquito Chicago Posts: 621
    enharmonic wrote:
    Ed's a baritone with about 2.5 octaves of good voice. when I say good, I mean sounds that his voice will make without him having to push above his range. He has more notes, but they are not a natural part of his voice.

    So if I can hit every note that Eddie hits on all the songs and hit most of Chris Cornell's notes, would you say that that is pretty good? If I practive for at least a week I can sing along with Chris on Hands All Over, which is really tough for me to hit.
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  • leethal
    leethal Posts: 134
    I aggree with what your saying about eddie having about 2.5 octaves of good voice. That makes sense.

    Is it true then what i heard about the average person being capable of 2.5. Because to me it seems like eddie has a huge range (not compared to some obviously but compared to a non singer definitely) I just don't see how the average person with a baritone could sing in hiding. I suppose its not all about your range its more about your tone and your control etc
  • leethal
    leethal Posts: 134
    HailHailVitalogy wrote:
    he's deffinantly hit higher...i'm not a singer either so I don't know what his range is

    Do you know where? I agree with you but in hiding was the highest i could think of. But Dead Man im pretty sure is as low as he's been
  • DOSW
    DOSW Posts: 2,014
    Dirty Mosquito wrote:
    So if I can hit every note that Eddie hits on all the songs and hit most of Chris Cornell's notes, would you say that that is pretty good? If I practive for at least a week I can sing along with Chris on Hands All Over, which is really tough for me to hit.

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  • Dirty Mosquito
    Dirty Mosquito Chicago Posts: 621
    DOSW wrote:
    Slaves and Bulldozers is a cakewalk for me.

    Awesome song! I loved that band. I tell you, I am not a great singer, but I have a lot of potential.. I swear if I just quite smoking and practiced more...id be so much better.
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  • DOSW
    DOSW Posts: 2,014
    Dirty Mosquito wrote:
    Awesome song! I loved that band. I tell you, I am not a great singer, but I have a lot of potential.. I swear if I just quite smoking and practiced more...id be so much better.

    Definitely. But I feel like gouging my ears out when I even *think* of me trying to hit some of those notes. :D I'm not a good singer at all. It's not like I'm trying to get better though, so I shouldn't complain.
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  • Dirty Mosquito
    Dirty Mosquito Chicago Posts: 621
    DOSW wrote:
    Definitely. But I feel like gouging my ears out when I even *think* of me trying to hit some of those notes. :D I'm not a good singer at all. It's not like I'm trying to get better though, so I shouldn't complain.

    The PJ song I struggle with most is Do The Evolution. I don't know why either, because it's not the highest or lowest tone song, I think it's just the key it's in. Some of the notes are hard for me to hit, but if I practice it alot or listen to it enough, it gets easier.
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  • DOSW
    DOSW Posts: 2,014
    Dirty Mosquito wrote:
    The PJ song I struggle with most is Do The Evolution. I don't know why either, because it's not the highest or lowest tone song, I think it's just the key it's in. Some of the notes are hard for me to hit, but if I practice it alot or listen to it enough, it gets easier.

    Just scream it at the top of your lungs. That should work, right?

    But really, I'd say that song is more effective because of the passion delivered through the singing as opposed to the notes themselves.
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  • harrisonmerwin
    harrisonmerwin Posts: 766
    i have a nice mid range and high range. i cant sing real low like eddie or anything. I can almost hit everything cornell does. I feel i have an average voice right in the middle, which i like.
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  • Dirty Mosquito
    Dirty Mosquito Chicago Posts: 621
    harrisonmerwin wrote:
    i have a nice mid range and high range. i cant sing real low like eddie or anything. I can almost hit everything cornell does. I feel i have an average voice right in the middle, which i like.

    I know it's cliche, but tea with honey really helps me, especially cutting down on the smoking on days I know I will be singing.
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  • harrisonmerwin
    harrisonmerwin Posts: 766
    Dirty Mosquito wrote:
    I know it's cliche, but tea with honey really helps me, especially cutting down on the smoking on days I know I will be singing.

    im not much of a low singer anyways...every song i write i make sure i can sing well just so i don't have to really adapt myself. I keep it to fairly simple melodies as well because were a 3 peice and i have quite teh guitar duties to keep up with.
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  • Dirty Mosquito
    Dirty Mosquito Chicago Posts: 621
    harrisonmerwin wrote:
    im not much of a low singer anyways...every song i write i make sure i can sing well just so i don't have to really adapt myself. I keep it to fairly simple melodies as well because were a 3 peice and i have quite teh guitar duties to keep up with.

    That's cool. I am still trying to find a band. I've been a one man band working on a record for over 3 years, and I have so much material, but nothing really finished.
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  • enharmonic
    enharmonic Posts: 1,917
    Dirty Mosquito wrote:
    So if I can hit every note that Eddie hits on all the songs and hit most of Chris Cornell's notes, would you say that that is pretty good? If I practive for at least a week I can sing along with Chris on Hands All Over, which is really tough for me to hit.

    I couldn't say it's good or bad because I don't know if you're going about it the right way. I can do it too, but not the right way, so that doesn't make it good because ultimately it leads to the kind of voices they both have today vs. what they had.
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  • enharmonic
    enharmonic Posts: 1,917
    leethal wrote:
    I aggree with what your saying about eddie having about 2.5 octaves of good voice. That makes sense.

    Is it true then what i heard about the average person being capable of 2.5. Because to me it seems like eddie has a huge range (not compared to some obviously but compared to a non singer definitely) I just don't see how the average person with a baritone could sing in hiding. I suppose its not all about your range its more about your tone and your control etc

    I'd say that the "average" (whatever that is...but I follow you) person is not a singer. Good is relative. Lets say this. A competent singer has at least a 2 octave range. That's only 16 notes, but most of western music doesn't use much more than 2 octaves from a compositional standpoint, so 2 octaves is a good standard.
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  • moster78
    moster78 Posts: 1,591
    enharmonic wrote:
    I'd say that the "average" (whatever that is...but I follow you) person is not a singer. Good is relative. Lets say this. A competent singer has at least a 2 octave range. That's only 16 notes, but most of western music doesn't use much more than 2 octaves from a compositional standpoint, so 2 octaves is a good standard.

    We can't all be Jeff Buckley and have a 4 octave range!
  • enharmonic
    enharmonic Posts: 1,917
    moster78 wrote:
    We can't all be Jeff Buckley and have a 4 octave range!

    Jeff's range was not a pure 4 octaves. He had extraordinary control over his falsetto.
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  • moster78
    moster78 Posts: 1,591
    enharmonic wrote:
    Jeff's range was not a pure 4 octaves. He had extraordinary control over his falsetto.

    I used to date a singer, so some of the terminology is familiar, but brings back bad memories. I just remember reading somewhere that he was anywhere between 3.5 to 4.
  • enharmonic
    enharmonic Posts: 1,917
    moster78 wrote:
    I used to date a singer, so some of the terminology is familiar, but brings back bad memories. I just remember reading somewhere that he was anywhere between 3.5 to 4.

    At most, I heard him use 2.5. Perhaps he had a wider range than he recorded or performed with.
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