Get this Bullsh*t..

nailz100 · January 2005

So MIG and Paco, and everyone else...
I told you I was going to drive 3 hours to the nearest bogner dealer and try a few of their amps out. So while I am down there I call them and ask them what they have in stock....they tell me they have on Ectasy head left, but it has been sold and the owner does not want anyone playing it...which is totally understandable. So I ask them when they are getting more in stock and they tell me they don't know, and even if they did have them in stock I would not be able to play them. I'm like "Pardon"....and she tells me that they do not let anyone play them because they are too expensive. She says that in 2 or 3 months they might have a showcase on bogner amps where the salesman does a demo of each amp....wow, alot of good that does me when I am not even able to PLAY a F*ckin amp that I want to own!! I am pretty much set on a Shive EL34 head (thanks to Paco, and all the other people I've talked to) But I'd at least like to TRY ONE OUT before I pay over $2000 for one. I mean, give me a break!!...I'm not going to fly to Toronto or the states just to play with an amp for half an hour. I almost flipped out on the lady I talked to. Its like buying a pet, but you only get to see the pictures....you can't play with him or hold him.....Give Me a F*ckin break....>man I am so pissed off!

exhausted · January 2005

let me guess.... guitarworks, right?

nailz100 · January 2005

No....The Guitar Connection in Calgary. If you check the Bogner website you'll notice that there are only two dealers in all of Canada...one in Calgary and one in Toronto. (I live in Edmonton) So pretty much I'm F*cked if I want to try one of these anytime soon....unless I fly to Toronto.

exhausted · January 2005

yeah, i just went and checked. that does suck. and so does the guitar connection. they overcharge ruthlessly anyway and their store is a shithole.

exhausted · January 2005

i'd drop a note to bogner itself to let them know what the dealer is doing. it's directly resulting in the loss of sales.

nailz100 · January 2005

Find me an e-mail address for them and I'd be glad to....I can't find one on their website.

pirljamgirl · January 2005

jeez...you can try a car out, it costs much more than 2000 bucks, ya know? sorry dude, i would definitely let someone in authority know about what you have went through

exhausted · January 2005

nailz100 wrote:

Find me an e-mail address for them and I'd be glad to....I can't find one on their website.

phone them.

Pacomc79 · January 2005

definately phone them and ask to at least leave a message for reinhold bogner. How the fuck can you be expected to purchase an amp that you can't play? Shit, get someone in the store to play them. It's a fucking guitar amp and it's over 2 grand, if it's so fragile that it would break in the store under supervision how could they fucking sell it. Stupid trogloditic bitches. One gets the feeling they don't sell much of anything.

That's bullshit. The problem is Bogner is such a small company and there are so many orders it's often months before stores replenish thier stock, Mesa Boogie used to be the exact same way.

nailz100 · January 2005

I know guys, I know....its crap. An e-mail address would be more helpfull though, since I live up in the land of Eskimos.....or a 1-800 phone number?

exhausted · January 2005

$2000 amp
$5 phone call. if that.

Pacomc79 · January 2005

oh, Cell Phone is free. or a calling card. I'll look.

BOGNER AMPLIFICATION 11411 Vanowen St. North Hollywood, Ca. 91605

mccreadyisgod · January 2005

It's all been said, but I'll say it, too... that's f*cked up.

Tell them you were interested in a Bad Cat, too.

exhausted · January 2005

mccreadyisgod wrote:

It's all been said, but I'll say it, too... that's f*cked up.

Tell them you were interested in a Bad Cat, too.

and of course to get bad cat means you have to deal with the other bullshit store in town.

mccreadyisgod · January 2005

exhausted wrote:

and of course to get bad cat means you have to deal with the other bullshit store in town.

I meant use it as an idle threat...

Get a Sovtek. Nobody will refuse a test-drive on a Sovtek. And they look bad-ass.

Pacomc79 · January 2005

I caught you a delicious bass and I built you a cake.

nailz100 · January 2005

Maybe MIG, but I really had my heart set on a Shiva EL34....just wanted to try one out to push me over the top. The only thing I am a little concerned with is the distortion channel possibly not having enought drive/ grit for the style I am playing. I have read reviews on harmony central and they said a Fulltone Fulldrive 2 can solve that problem by increasing the gain and giving you more freedom with your boosts, so I might just end up getting a Shiva EL34 head with a Fulltone Fulldrive 2 pedal.....I haven't totally decided on the cab yet. Tell you what....How bout some of you go into a music store and try out a Shiva EL34 for me with a Fulltone pedal and tell me what you think? Since I can't PLAY the F*ckin Thing!

Pacomc79 · January 2005

nailz100 wrote:

Maybe MIG, but I really had my heart set on a Shiva EL34....just wanted to try one out to push me over the top. The only thing I am a little concerned with is the distortion channel possibly not having enought drive/ grit for the style I am playing. I have read reviews on harmony central and they said a Fulltone Fulldrive 2 can solve that problem by increasing the gain and giving you more freedom with your boosts, so I might just end up getting a Shiva EL34 head with a Fulltone Fulldrive 2 pedal.....I haven't totally decided on the cab yet. Tell you what....How bout some of you go into a music store and try out a Shiva EL34 for me with a Fulltone pedal and tell me what you think? Since I can't PLAY the F*ckin Thing!

will do, the local Fulltone/Bogner dealer is about 2 miles from where I work.

nailz100 · January 2005

Thanks Paco....I appreciate it. Like I said, its not so much the clean tones or "tone" in general that I am worried about....I just want to make sure the distortion is raunchy enough for my liking (say Three Days Grace, Chevelle...ish)....hopefully the Fulltone will add a bit...it'll probably go through tubes like crazy though? Also is it possible to go from the clean channel (channel 1) straight to the boost channel (channel 3) or do you have to click the distortion first and then the boost? I hear the boost adds alot of tone an grit...I would like to only click it once since I am singing all the time. Since I can't try one I have NO F*CKING IDEA!

Pacomc79 · January 2005

nailz100 wrote:

Thanks Paco....I appreciate it. Like I said, its not so much the clean tones or "tone" in general that I am worried about....I just want to make sure the distortion is raunchy enough for my liking (say Three Days Grace, Chevelle...ish)....hopefully the Fulltone will add a bit...it'll probably go through tubes like crazy though? Also is it possible to go from the clean channel (channel 1) straight to the boost channel (channel 3) or do you have to click the distortion first and then the boost? I hear the boost adds alot of tone an grit...I would like to only click it once since I am singing all the time. Since I can't try one I have NO F*CKING IDEA!

it's all footswitchable channel reverb and boost and there are several options on the rear of the amp, so yeah you can have the boost engaged, on channel 2. you may need the fulltone but I think you'll be suprised with how dynamic the tone is. There is plenty of gain available. If you were that influenced by pre gain you'd probably be more into Mesa Boogie. You'll get plenty of mileage out of the tubes, the ones you'd be slamming are cheaper preamp tubes anyway. I do that to mine and I haven't had any issues in a year and a half now. This amps #2 channel provides an extremely dynamic rock tone and that's about the best I can describe it. Your guitar should match up really well with it.

nailz100 · January 2005

So I can engage the boost straight from the clean channel and it'll jump to channel 3? How easy is it to change out the tubes in these bad boys? I will be playing alot of shows with it, so obviously I'll get a hard case with the head, but I also want to make sure that its not going to crap out on me all the time. How long to change the tubes? How many are there? If I have any service problems is there any change that someone here could fix it without me sending it all the way to Bogner?...it'll be used anyways (I guess thats something I should look into before I buy it)

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