just orderd this stack...

low_light
low_light Posts: 251
edited December 2003 in Musicians and Gearheads
for the money it works out nicely. pretty much the same setup i had with my combo.. but my combo is crapping the fucking bed. so i figure ill get this and later add a tube head to the cab.

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/sid=031202111038012075000192861842/g=guitar/search/detail/base_pid/482807/

-dm
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  • Pacomc79
    Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    Originally posted by low_light
    for the money it works out nicely. pretty much the same setup i had with my combo.. but my combo is crapping the fucking bed. so i figure ill get this and later add a tube head to the cab.

    http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/sid=031202111038012075000192861842/g=guitar/search/detail/base_pid/482807/

    -dm

    The Sovtek Mig 50's would be a good pair with that cab. at $250 it's not to expensive either used. Theres always the Yamaha/Soldano T50-100 too.

    But you'll probably go for the Marshall DSL or TSL.


    congrats on the new rig. I've always wanted a half stack.
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  • Hey I've been thinking about getting the same thing. Tell me what it's like when it comes in. Thanks
  • will do. honestly i had the mini 2 x12 combo of it but its going tits up on me. but for even just 2 12's it sounds fuckin great. i can imagine how it will sound with the cab.

    ill let you know by next week how the cab sounds.

    -low
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  • this looks like such a sweet deal. What is a half stack? And why is this combo so cheap. I was considering a fender cyber head (over 1 grand!!!) with some sort of cab. Are cabs really cheap? Is a whole stack 8 speakers? IS that why 4 is called half stack? What do marshall heads sound like? Could they create a PJ like tone? Hmmm do people use them with telecasters often?

    Fill me in guys.
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  • exhausted
    exhausted Posts: 6,638
    Originally posted by MissYouAllDay
    this looks like such a sweet deal. What is a half stack? And why is this combo so cheap. I was considering a fender cyber head (over 1 grand!!!) with some sort of cab. Are cabs really cheap? Is a whole stack 8 speakers? IS that why 4 is called half stack? What do marshall heads sound like? Could they create a PJ like tone? Hmmm do people use them with telecasters often?

    Fill me in guys.

    just don't buy a cyber head. they suck.
  • is that marshall head a tube head? And why do cyber heads suck? I read a review that said they were amazing and as advertised for recreating other amp sounds?

    Anyone can answer my other questions?
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  • Pacomc79
    Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    Originally posted by MissYouAllDay
    this looks like such a sweet deal. What is a half stack? And why is this combo so cheap. I was considering a fender cyber head (over 1 grand!!!) with some sort of cab. Are cabs really cheap? Is a whole stack 8 speakers? IS that why 4 is called half stack? What do marshall heads sound like? Could they create a PJ like tone? Hmmm do people use them with telecasters often?

    Fill me in guys.

    go to http://www.marshallamps.com and look up history. The Stack half/stack was created by Jim Marshall out of need by one of his customers Pete Townsend. After 8x12's were proven difficult to move and haul around it was cut in half and the halfstack was born. 4x12

    If I were you I'd look for used Marshall DSL JCM 800 900 or 2000's

    and used 1960A (X) cabs
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  • exhausted
    exhausted Posts: 6,638
    we have reached the extent of my knowledge on stacks. i've never researched them b/c i could never make use of them.

    maybe a head and a 2x10 or 2x12. but never a 4x12. i don't play what i can't lift.
  • Pacomc79
    Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    Originally posted by exhausted
    just don't buy a cyber head. they suck.


    The best deal on the best amp you can get for these sounds right now is the Line 6 Duoverb a 2x12 combo on sale for $499 at http://www.musiciansfriend.com

    I worry about the reliability of the Cyberdeluxe knowing Fenders quality control issues with the Dynatouch series. Digitech's Johnson series the Millieniums were nightmares. Breath on it wrong. and it's screwed. Cool sounds though
    My Girlfriend said to me..."How many guitars do you need?" and I replied...."How many pairs of shoes do you need?" She got really quiet.
  • exhausted
    exhausted Posts: 6,638
    Originally posted by Pacomc79
    The best deal on the best amp you can get for these sounds right now is the Line 6 Duoverb a 2x12 combo on sale for $499 at http://www.musiciansfriend.com

    I worry about the reliability of the Cyberdeluxe knowing Fenders quality control issues with the Dynatouch series. Digitech's Johnson series the Millieniums were nightmares. Breath on it wrong. and it's screwed. Cool sounds though

    yeah, i refer only to the fenders.
  • Well, as far as the price being cheap right now you can attribute that to the Xmas season. it normally sells for like 800 bucks... it is not a TUBE head and that is also why... which my point is that later when I have the cash I can always look into a really nice tube amp head and put it on the cab.

    as far as the playing what i can lift theory... hehe im 6'5 260 lbs.. i better be able to move it. and if i cant, well thats what my friends are for that go to the shows.. muahhaahahaha

    ;)

    in all seriousness though, it will fill out the sound a lot better. that fucking KORG triton sucks all the sound up around it. i need a little more punch to make the guitars sound better at shows.

    i've always wanted a half stack so im gonna just go for it. and the price was right

    -lowy
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  • Pacomc79
    Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    Originally posted by exhausted
    yeah, i refer only to the fenders.


    oh yeah. I've played with the cyberdeluxes only to really decide I want only one tone done exceptionally well rather than 152 tones done half assed and not even close but to each his own.

    I'd rather have an original deluxe reverb.
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  • i'd actually love to have a deluxe reverb but i dont have the cash. so i have to make due with what i can. this seemed pretty good

    -low
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  • exhausted
    exhausted Posts: 6,638
    Originally posted by low_light
    i'd actually love to have a deluxe reverb but i dont have the cash. so i have to make due with what i can. this seemed pretty good

    -low

    i don't think it would have the power you need anyway. you'd have to mic it.
  • Pacomc79
    Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    Originally posted by exhausted
    i don't think it would have the power you need anyway. you'd have to mic it.


    you're doing well with what you are getting anyway low. The DR is only 22 watts. Too small for your band. Marshall half stacks are like Fender American Standards or Les Paul Standards. Just pure unadulterated Rock and Roll. You can't go wrong with them. You'll have plenty of money later on to upgrade and get what you really want. Just look at Stone and Mike. They change virtually every tour now. What you have is a great amp that suits your needs. It will make you happy. More speakers give you more sound I think you'll like it even more than the combo.
    My Girlfriend said to me..."How many guitars do you need?" and I replied...."How many pairs of shoes do you need?" She got really quiet.
  • thanks, Paco. I think it should be okay. It has the same chorus effect that believe it or not actually SOUNDS good. most built in effects on amps sound like shit but I really like their Chorus.

    I'm still miffed that the combo crapped the bed. the left speaker just barely even puts out a signal and the other side is following suit. and I dont abuse the amp or overdrive the thing at all. who knows. seems everything is made to break down and be repaired too quickly.

    -low
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  • Pacomc79
    Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    Originally posted by low_light
    thanks, Paco. I think it should be okay. It has the same chorus effect that believe it or not actually SOUNDS good. most built in effects on amps sound like shit but I really like their Chorus.

    I'm still miffed that the combo crapped the bed. the left speaker just barely even puts out a signal and the other side is following suit. and I dont abuse the amp or overdrive the thing at all. who knows. seems everything is made to break down and be repaired too quickly.

    -low

    It's made by people in South Korea who may not even be able to read the instructions. Cut them a little slack. :) Chances are it's a short somewhere inside who knows. The speaker could be faulty or something inside is faulty. Often things can shake loose from volume shaking or moving it. Pretty common with electronic stuff. After playing my old Ultimate Chorus on my Brother in Laws Strat I miss all that power, reverb and even the chorus even though it's kind of cheezy. I had a floating ground in mine once, ended up paying someone 90 bucks to fix it only to find out it was a fucking soldier joint I could have fixed in 2 seconds. Your combo has a speaker out. When you get the cab try plugging the combo in. If the sound is perfect something is wrong between the amplifier and the speakers most likely their crapped out. I have an eminence 12" lying in my house if you want it.

    In todays world if you want something built right....you have to do it yourself or pay a lot of money for it.
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  • House53
    House53 Posts: 1,276
    Where are you all playing that 22 watts (tube watts, it should be noted tube watts and solid state watts are not apples to apples tube watts are much louder) is not enough power?

    My amp is 18 watts (tube) and I have played some pretty big places with it... I never have to turn up past 12 o'clock (5)

    When I had a Hiwatt Custom 50... I played a grandstand outdoors with no mic... that was with 412s, master volume cranked, and input volume on about three with two overdrives... anyways, my point is you don't really need much power for a band or playing out.

    The Hiwatt couldn't get turned up very high at all in most clubs, or at practice... at least not without some serious ear plugs around.

    Just my $.02.
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  • Pacomc79
    Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    Originally posted by House53
    Where are you all playing that 22 watts (tube watts, it should be noted tube watts and solid state watts are not apples to apples tube watts are much louder) is not enough power?

    My amp is 18 watts (tube) and I have played some pretty big places with it... I never have to turn up past 12 o'clock (5)

    When I had a Hiwatt Custom 50... I played a grandstand outdoors with no mic... that was with 412s, master volume cranked, and input volume on about three with two overdrives... anyways, my point is you don't really need much power for a band or playing out.

    The Hiwatt couldn't get turned up very high at all in most clubs, or at practice... at least not without some serious ear plugs around.

    Just my $.02.


    yeah you are right. 22 watts is really more than enough. Hell my amp is 15 watts and it's really more than enough but sometimes I wish I had more headroom.
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  • House53
    House53 Posts: 1,276
    If we are talking about rock 'n' roll credibility or presence... I agree a Marshall 1/2 stack is the way to go...

    But for volume "needs" no one posting on here needs a 100 watt amp

    I agree on the headroom issue.
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