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 1.) Having an open back one allows the sound to be fuller and projected more openly. If there's a cover on the back, it's almost muffled. It's all about tastechops wrote:thanks mcreadyisgod.
 the idea of getting a combo amp now, then adding another cabinet when the money/need arises sounds pretty appealing right now. it offers the flexibility to uprgrade in the future without spending *too* much money now.
 and since i have no shame left in regards to lack of amp knowledge:
 1) what is the difference in sound between a solid back and open back?
 2) what exactly IS a half stack (is there a 'full stack')?
 3) do different speakers offer different sounds, or just better/worse quality? that is to say, are some speakers/brands suited to different types of music? i once had someone try to convince me marshall cabinets didn't have marshall speakers in them per se, and it really the amp that was important. i guess what i mean, is picking a cabinet purely based on size and cost?
 thanks again.
 2.) Half stack is a head with one speaker cab. Full is a head with two speaker cabs (either side by side or on top of eachother). I've seen some giant stacks with FOUR cabs.
 3.) Different speakers are designed for different things. Blackwidows(Peavey) are used for Bass. You can swap speakers out of amps and cabs, too. I know many people do this and have been known to get a better sound. Try out different cabs. Like I said, my roc pro is going through an actual bass amp that I'm simply using as a cab. This allows me to get a HUGE low end and have the luxury of adjusting the EQ's on the cab itself. With a normal cab, you don't have this, instead you control everything from the head. (If you have two cabs and one head, the one head will EQ and control both cabs).
 I hope this helps and you're not confused. I'm not as good as Paco, McCready, Ian, at explaining but I've learned a LOT from them so I'm trying to explain the best I can.Grand Rapids '04, Detroit '06
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            Hey mig,
 If I have a JCM800 1960 Lead cab (no clue on the year), more than likely what speakers are inside, Vintage 30s?If idle hands are the devil's workshop, he must not be very productive.
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            do try out an Orange Rockerverb if you get a shot too since you're shopping the Tiny Terror you might be more pleased with the RV Veddy nice.
 I'm loving this amp discussion we haven't had a good one in a while.My Girlfriend said to me..."How many guitars do you need?" and I replied...."How many pairs of shoes do you need?" She got really quiet.0
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            Novawind wrote:Hey mig,
 If I have a JCM800 1960 Lead cab (no clue on the year), more than likely what speakers are inside, Vintage 30s?
 depends on the letters next to the cab. The AX models I believe are V30's
 and the TV (tall vintage cab) has greenbacks.
 Many other Marshall cabs have G12T75's.
 Marshall may have changed recently to Vintage 30's in everything since they are so popular.
 The G12T75's are good speakers though too and certainly give you a higher wattage output.. in other words you get a louder tighter more forceful crispy clean at higher wattage levels. Works very well at high gain levels to keep things toegther and detailed.
 I've been a greenback fiend since I first plugged in a TV cabinet with an old Mesa Maverick. Granted they weren't the old sought after "pre rola" greenbacks or anything but to me it sounded like heaven, but mainly because I like a smooth overdriven character and that works with fuzz for me too. The heavy magnet models or G12H's have even more bass which I like as a single coil junkie... but it still works with the clear articulate PAF's from hollowbodies too.
 MIG, that was great man.My Girlfriend said to me..."How many guitars do you need?" and I replied...."How many pairs of shoes do you need?" She got really quiet.0
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            mccready is god, thanks heaps mate. awesome effort, and i appreciate it loads. the kind of information you, and others offer, would take bloody ages to find browsing around. same too to xtremehardy.
 as for the rockerverb, i've been spending heaps of time googling around when i should be doing a major assingment. anyway, i stubmled across this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3-l6plJXpE&feature=related). dunno if it would interest any of you, but i was pretty impressed with the sound of it! aside from the fact he plays well, and has a heaps better guitar - that's just the sound i'm after!0
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            chops wrote:mccready is god, thanks heaps mate. awesome effort, and i appreciate it loads. the kind of information you, and others offer, would take bloody ages to find browsing around. same too to xtremehardy.
 as for the rockerverb, i've been spending heaps of time googling around when i should be doing a major assingment. anyway, i stubmled across this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3-l6plJXpE&feature=related). dunno if it would interest any of you, but i was pretty impressed with the sound of it! aside from the fact he plays well, and has a heaps better guitar - that's just the sound i'm after!
 Yeah it's a great amp. very simple no BS clean sound (EL34 though so it's a little woolier and meatier than the EL84 crispy chimey sound)
 The OD channel is also quite crunchy.My Girlfriend said to me..."How many guitars do you need?" and I replied...."How many pairs of shoes do you need?" She got really quiet.0
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            Pacomc79 wrote:do try out an Orange Rockerverb if you get a shot too since you're shopping the Tiny Terror you might be more pleased with the RV Veddy nice.
 I'm loving this amp discussion we haven't had a good one in a while.
 To me when "pushed" the Rockerverb is more useful then the tiny terror. Tiny Terror gets the typical EL84 fizz going when pushed hard.E. Lansing-98 Columbus-00,03,10 Detroit-00,03 (1&2),06, 14 Cleveland-03,06,10 Toledo-04, Grand Rapids-04,06 London-05, Toronto-05, Indianapolis 10, East Troy (1&2) 11, Chicago 13, Detroit 14
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            All Those Yesterdays wrote:To me when "pushed" the Rockerverb is more useful then the tiny terror. Tiny Terror gets the typical EL84 fizz going when pushed hard.
 yeah, that's true, I have that problem with my AD 15 as the gain gets unuseable past 1:00 so I tend to use effects as gain stages anyway but I did find using Tung Sol's in the preamp stage helped the fizz
 I'm going to try the new issue mullards and some 5751's as well as some RFT's if I can find some in the near future.... that is after I finish the electronics swap in the strat.My Girlfriend said to me..."How many guitars do you need?" and I replied...."How many pairs of shoes do you need?" She got really quiet.0
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            Man, I wanna try out a Tiny Terror. Unfortunatley, I think I'm done buying gear for a while:(Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V0
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            Pacomc79 wrote:yeah, that's true, I have that problem with my AD 15 as the gain gets unuseable past 1:00 so I tend to use effects as gain stages anyway but I did find using Tung Sol's in the preamp stage helped the fizz
 I'm going to try the new issue mullards and some 5751's as well as some RFT's if I can find some in the near future.... that is after I finish the electronics swap in the strat.
 There is a mod for the tiny terror, that helps out with the fizz, creates more usuable overdrive. I have a habit of putting NOS 5751's in all my single ended amps. (But I need to give the Mullards a try. Possible with the next tube order.) Just to help remove some of the over the top Pre-amp gain.E. Lansing-98 Columbus-00,03,10 Detroit-00,03 (1&2),06, 14 Cleveland-03,06,10 Toledo-04, Grand Rapids-04,06 London-05, Toronto-05, Indianapolis 10, East Troy (1&2) 11, Chicago 13, Detroit 14
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            I wanted an Orange cab for so long when I was in the market for a head but I wondered why they were so darn expensive...what's so great about them?Grand Rapids '04, Detroit '06
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            xtremehardy388 wrote:I wanted an Orange cab for so long when I was in the market for a head but I wondered why they were so darn expensive...what's so great about them?
 Go get a avatar 2x12, or 4x12 and throw some Vintage 30's in them.E. Lansing-98 Columbus-00,03,10 Detroit-00,03 (1&2),06, 14 Cleveland-03,06,10 Toledo-04, Grand Rapids-04,06 London-05, Toronto-05, Indianapolis 10, East Troy (1&2) 11, Chicago 13, Detroit 14
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            xtremehardy388 wrote:I wanted an Orange cab for so long when I was in the market for a head but I wondered why they were so darn expensive...what's so great about them?
 I'm with you, there... I would LOVE to have an Orange 2x12 cab with Greenbacks. VERY pretty, great sound.
 There are two factors in the expense of the Orange cabs. First, they're incredibly well-built. In fact, they're probably over-built. Thick wood in the construction, finger-jointed. The orange tolex and the super-nice grillcloth are factors, as are the speakers, which aren't some blank-label Eminence, but real honest-to-mccready Celestions.
 Factor two is the exclusivity. They charge that much because they can. Marshall cabs have the functional quality of the Orange cabs, but are slightly cheaper.
 Avatar cabs are good enough for most of us, as are most other cabs out there. In fact, you can probably find some older Peavey and Crate cabs that are really well-built cabinets, and then load them with whatever speakers you want, for cheaper than getting a true Marshall or Orange cab.
 As for Novawind... Paco answered your question as best anyone can already. Without taking off the back and having a peek, there's no great way to assess which speakers are in your cab. Unless they were swapped by a previous owner, they're almost certainly Celestions, but which model I couldn't say. If it was me, the curiosity would kill me... I'd be yanking the back off first thing.
 The Rockerverb was a great amp the one time I plugged into it... I was trying out a really noisy Tele with P-90's, so I can't give it a full eval (and it was definitely the guitar, I plugged into a few different amps) but it had a great tone, good cleans and good drive. In fact, it was about the first EL-34 amp I've ever been interested in. And the drive channel was very usable, I thought (I'm normally a stompbox guy with single-channel amps). I still haven't found an EL-84 amp that I can get behind... there are some people who use them well, but they don't respond to my playing. 5881 or die! Sovtek to the end!...and if you don't like it, you can suck on an egg.0
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