just orderd this stack...

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  • Pacomc79
    Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    Originally posted by mccreadyisgod
    Some people debate whether the Blues Breakers that Clapton played on were actually the early 4 x 10" combo, not the later 2 x 12" combo (they looked exactly the same from the front). I like to think it was the 4 x 10"...


    something I didn't know. Makes sense though many of the supros and Selmers used 10"s

    but your're right WPJ It wouldn't really matter Clapton is so good he could probably get some sembelence of his tone from just about any amp and guitar he chose.
    My Girlfriend said to me..."How many guitars do you need?" and I replied...."How many pairs of shoes do you need?" She got really quiet.
  • Originally posted by Pacomc79
    something I didn't know. Makes sense though many of the supros and Selmers used 10"s

    but your're right WPJ It wouldn't really matter Clapton is so good he could probably get some sembelence of his tone from just about any amp and guitar he chose.

    If you ever hear any renowned guitarist backstage in the tuning/warm up room, they're playing into a tiny practice amp, they sound like themselves. Carlos Santana just tuning up with a tiny Crate amp sounds amazingly like Carlos Santana wailing on stage. There's that finger vibrato, the pick attack, the timing that has a lot to do with what sets them apart.
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  • Pacomc79
    Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    Originally posted by who's_pearljam?
    If you ever hear any renowned guitarist backstage in the tuning/warm up room, they're playing into a tiny practice amp, they sound like themselves. Carlos Santana just tuning up with a tiny Crate amp sounds amazingly like Carlos Santana wailing on stage. There's that finger vibrato, the pick attack, the timing that has a lot to do with what sets them apart.


    shhh. I can get that sound if I buy thier gear and Santa Claus is real. :)
    My Girlfriend said to me..."How many guitars do you need?" and I replied...."How many pairs of shoes do you need?" She got really quiet.
  • exhausted
    exhausted Posts: 6,638
    Originally posted by Pacomc79
    shhh. I can get that sound if I buy thier gear and Santa Claus is real. :)

    i have lead fingers i swear. i know i can get the tone. i did once. for like two seconds. i know i can do it.
  • Originally posted by exhausted
    i have lead fingers i swear. i know i can get the tone. i did once. for like two seconds. i know i can do it.

    The closest I ever got to John Lennon's tone was when The Beatles first came out and my friends and I had beatles wigs on and broomsticks for guitars
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  • mccreadyisgod
    mccreadyisgod Bumfuq, MT Posts: 6,395
    Originally posted by who's_pearljam?
    The closest I ever got to John Lennon's tone was when The Beatles first came out and my friends and I had beatles wigs on and broomsticks for guitars

    What, you didn't go out and buy a Rickenbacker 360 and a Vox Super Beatle? Geez...

    Really, the best justification I have for spending so damned much on so much gear, is that I hope to own a studio and have a good backline supply. It's at least an honest reason to need so much stuff...

    RE: Clapton and the Blues Breaker... I agree, the playing is the important thing there, not the amp, the tubes, the speakers, the cables, the pickups, ad infinitum... I was just referencing the historical difficulty people have had trying to get Clapton tone out of the 2 x 12" Blues Breakers. It's seen as the holy grail of good Clapton tone... for good reason... Really, the first JTM45 amps and Blues Breaker combos were just Jim Marshall's blatant copy of the tweed Bassman. Both are phenomenal amps.

    But like I said earlier, good gear is no excuse for bad playing.
    ...and if you don't like it, you can suck on an egg.
  • Originally posted by mccreadyisgod
    What, you didn't go out and buy a Rickenbacker 360 and a Vox Super Beatle? Geez...]

    Well, I was 10 or 11 at the time. I waited till I had money from a paper route to by my first. My 57 goldtop for about 2 or 3 hundred bucks. Boy am I glad I still have that one!



    But like I said earlier, good gear is no excuse for bad playing.

    You are completely right. Sorry, I wasn't slamming you for the bluesbreaker thing. That has been the question for a long time!

    Here's a Pina Colada!

    My Selmer has a lot of that tone. Allegedly that was the basis for the Bassman/ Bassmen/ bassmans. You can find Selmers at a pretty reasonable price , too. I love the cheesy faux alligator skin!
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  • mccreadyisgod
    mccreadyisgod Bumfuq, MT Posts: 6,395
    Originally posted by who's_pearljam?
    You are completely right. Sorry, I wasn't slamming you for the bluesbreaker thing. That has been the question for a long time!

    Here's a Pina Colada!

    My Selmer has a lot of that tone. Allegedly that was the basis for the Bassman/ Bassmen/ bassmans. You can find Selmers at a pretty reasonable price , too. I love the cheesy faux alligator skin!

    You keep waving that goldtop 57 LP under my nose... it's damn near cruel! I watched the U2 DVD from Slane Castle a couple nights ago... the Edge had a damned nice goldtop LP (probably a reissue, or a standard LP in gold bullion). I want one! Although I want a reissue... like you, I'd never want to play the original. Worth too much!

    Hey, we can at least agree on hearing protection...

    I have been looking for a Sovtek Mig head, which is the Russian copy of the JTM 45. I think it's funny that the Russians copied the Brits, when the Brits really just copied Leo Fender in the first place... Besides, it's Russian... how cool is a Cold War-era Russian-made guitar amp?

    I'll have to go looking for a Selmer amp now... see what that's all about. So they pre-date the Bassman?
    ...and if you don't like it, you can suck on an egg.
  • Originally posted by mccreadyisgod


    Hey, we can at least agree on hearing protection...

    I have been looking for a Sovtek Mig head, which is the Russian copy of the JTM 45. I think it's funny that the Russians copied the Brits, when the Brits really just copied Leo Fender in the first place... Besides, it's Russian... how cool is a Cold War-era Russian-made guitar amp?

    I'll have to go looking for a Selmer amp now... see what that's all about. So they pre-date the Bassman?

    Those Sovteks were all over a couple of years ago. They are friggin great. I played several of them. I never owned one.

    I can't believe I just found the exact Selmer head I have.
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2576784760&category=10171&rd=1

    I have a matching 2 x 12 cabinet.
    I guess it's faux croc skin
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  • mccreadyisgod
    mccreadyisgod Bumfuq, MT Posts: 6,395
    Originally posted by who's_pearljam?
    I can't believe I just found the exact Selmer head I have.
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2576784760&category=10171&rd=1

    I have a matching 2 x 12 cabinet.
    I guess it's faux croc skin


    That looks like a Marshall Plexi... how does the sound compare? What speakers are in the cabinet? I'll say this... sure as hell looks nice...
    ...and if you don't like it, you can suck on an egg.
  • mccreadyisgod
    mccreadyisgod Bumfuq, MT Posts: 6,395
    This is the same thing as my Marshall...
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2578173238&category=38075

    It's been in the shop for a couple months with transformer problems. My tech just farmed it out to a guy in Spokane, though, so hopefully it will get fixed and back to me soon. My tech is a friend, and I work with him on various projects, so this is more of a favor... I don't think I would let any other repair man take so long with one of my babies! I may just re-sell this when I get it back, though, to finance the Sovtek... haven't decided yet.
    ...and if you don't like it, you can suck on an egg.
  • Bluesbreaker style. Old Bassman. It's the closest I've ever seen to that sound.
    Mine still has original mullard tubes. I think that's good. : )

    I don't even know the original brand of speaker, I have Celestions in there now. I know you'll want the type,,,, I think Greenbacks, but might be 30's.. I unscrew the 100's of screws and look next time I run across it! It's a close cab.
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  • Originally posted by who's_pearljam?
    Bluesbreaker style. Old Bassman. It's the closest I've ever seen to that sound.
    Mine still has original mullard tubes. I think that's good. : )

    I don't even know the original brand of speaker, I have Celestions in there now. I know you'll want the type,,,, I think Greenbacks, but might be 30's.. I unscrew the 100's of screws and look next time I run across it! It's a close cab.

    Oh, and it's 240 volt. So I have a bigass step up transformer for it.
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  • mccreadyisgod
    mccreadyisgod Bumfuq, MT Posts: 6,395
    Originally posted by who's_pearljam?
    Oh, and it's 240 volt. So I have a bigass step up transformer for it.


    Holy crap! Unplug the clothes dryer to use the guitar amp!

    I admit: I'm a speaker junkie. If they're Greenbacks or Vintage 30's, though, I get the picture... very nice. If I ever had to use 12" speakers, they would be either Celestion Greenbacks or Vintage 30's. In fact, I need to replace my G12-75 in my Marshall with a Greenback once I get it back... too much clean headroom! It's like, "Break up already!"
    ...and if you don't like it, you can suck on an egg.
  • mccreadyisgod
    mccreadyisgod Bumfuq, MT Posts: 6,395
    Oh, and I found this... you might have already seen it, but if you haven't, it might be a good site to browse through...
    http://www.vintagehofner.co.uk/gallery/gallery3/selm.html
    ...and if you don't like it, you can suck on an egg.
  • Originally posted by mccreadyisgod
    Holy crap! Unplug the clothes dryer to use the guitar amp!

    I admit: I'm a speaker junkie. If they're Greenbacks or Vintage 30's, though, I get the picture... very nice. If I ever had to use 12" speakers, they would be either Celestion Greenbacks or Vintage 30's. In fact, I need to replace my G12-75 in my Marshall with a Greenback once I get it back... too much clean headroom! It's like, "Break up already!"

    This thing breaks up easily. Tone galore.
    I just plug into the regular wall outlet though. I should try the dryer though. It's a gas dryer though. That might mess up the house! Talk about smoking an amp!

    I haven't seen that site for a while. Thanks man

    This is my exact set
    http://mysite.freeserve.com/selmer/speakers/spk24.html
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  • mccreadyisgod
    mccreadyisgod Bumfuq, MT Posts: 6,395
    Good lookin' rig! Serious mojo there... history, character, warts and all...

    I would be frightened of running that thing with the step-up transformer. I'd probably get a Lansing 120-volt tranny... I'm anal, I don't like to live on the edge. I can see why you might have fried a few amps in your day! ;)

    Freshen up your pina colada for you?
    ...and if you don't like it, you can suck on an egg.
  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    Originally posted by Pacomc79
    The Sovtek Mig 50's would be a good pair with that cab. at $250 it's not to expensive either used. Theres always the Yamaha/Soldano T50-100 too.

    Id go for the Mig!!!
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • mccreadyisgod
    mccreadyisgod Bumfuq, MT Posts: 6,395
    Originally posted by El_Kabong
    Id go for the Mig!!!

    Ah... another Mig fan! Welcome, friend...
    ...and if you don't like it, you can suck on an egg.
  • Originally posted by mccreadyisgod
    Good lookin' rig! Serious mojo there... history, character, warts and all...

    I would be frightened of running that thing with the step-up transformer. I'd probably get a Lansing 120-volt tranny... I'm anal, I don't like to live on the edge. I can see why you might have fried a few amps in your day! ;)

    Freshen up your pina colada for you?

    Thanks for the Pina colada, but I know if I want to drink any more when I'm operating a 240 volt amp! Unless I play with rubber electrician's gloves.

    Now that I think of it, That's the only brand amp I haven't smoked!
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