Anyone else here NEVER reach for "Avocado"?

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  • Steel Tormentor
    Steel Tormentor Posts: 10
    I really enjoyed this album when it first came out and I definitely think it holds up to this day. Unemployable has been one of my favorite PJ songs since they released it on iTunes with WWS before the full album was released. Big Wave is probably my least favorite song of the bunch. Truthfully I don't think there is a real large margin between the best and worst PJ albums but most of the time my opinion on that matter changes. Recently Riot Act has been my favorite because unfortunately I didn't give it the attention it deserved when it was first released.
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  • Flagg
    Flagg Posts: 5,856
    I still love it as much as I did on day one. I was so happy with the turnaround from Riot Act.

    That said, I really don't listen to any of the studio albums very much. Just boots mostly.
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  • LimeDisease
    LimeDisease Posts: 89
    id put it on top of their catalogue with binaural, ten, vitalogy and no code

    vs, ra, yield are great too,

    hard to imagine pj fans down on avocado, even if you take the approach that is the twilight of any almost any bands career that far in. take it easy
  • rival.
    rival. Chicago Posts: 7,775
    PissBottleMan wrote:
    This is fascinating because when the album came out, many exclaimed it was a return to their glory.

    Interesting.

    PBM

    alot of people did, but once the honeymoon was over, i think alot of people just realized how mediocre sounding the album is.

    on the bottom of my PJ CD stack.
  • Sian-of-the-dead
    Sian-of-the-dead Posts: 8,963
    I always reach for it... it's one of my 'happy' albums :)
    Been to this many PJ shows: Reading 2006 London 2007 Manchester & London 2009 Dublin, Belfast, London, Nijmegen & Berlin 2010 Manchester 1 & Manchester 2 2012...

    ... and I still think Drive-By Truckers are better.
  • washedinblack91
    washedinblack91 Posts: 3,079
    VoiceInsideMyHead wrote:
    and as much as i really, really wanted to love it, i just don't.
    something seems to be missing.

    i never listen to the avocado....ever.
    i agree. sadly i hardly even consider it a pearl jam album kind of. it's like, you got ten, vs, vitalogy, no code, yield, binaural, riot act which are part of pearl jam's repertoire, then avocado is just... there. it just doesnt... fit for me i guess.. and it's sad because i love army reserve and inside job and other songs, but i kind of hate WWS, severed hand, and life wasted a little... i dunno why but it just doesnt do it for me. i want them to, but they just dont... i mean live theyre wicked, but on the studio album it's just.. blah...
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  • gregkitefan
    gregkitefan Posts: 1,122
    Great album.
    One of my favorites.
    Much better than Riot Act.
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  • tomtin
    tomtin Posts: 48
    GTFLYGIRL wrote:
    as usual you and i see things differently...

    i love avocado... studio... live... however

    in fact... if i want avo songs i'm more likely to reach for studio more so than with any other studio... except maybe No Code

    mostly i listen to boots...or avo or no code. :)

    That's weird because I agree with you 100 percent. I listen to mostly boots but sometimes I'll spin avo or no code. They are really the only ones...

    I'm really surprised people don't like avo that much. I mean, I'm a fan of all their stuff. But avo is one of the better ones in my opinion. Mostly because, I love every song on it. I don't think any song is weak at all.

    If I had to rank, it would go something like this:

    No Code
    Vs
    Avo
    Ten (Would have been first a long time ago, but I'm so sick of it)
    Vitalogy
    Binaural
    Yield
    Riot Act
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  • Big Ed
    Big Ed Posts: 331
    This thread needs to be moved to the "piss & moan" message pit.
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  • smile05
    smile05 Posts: 600
    still a very good album, my tastes on the album have changed tho in the last 2 years
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  • LineOneMightyFine
    LineOneMightyFine Posts: 347
    Its a decent album, but I'm not as high on it as I was when it came out. I haven't listened to it in many months actually.

    I think what bothers me about it is the lack of depth to many of the songs - lacking some of the subtleties that reward with repeat listens. I think the ones that have held up for me after a couple of years are: MITS, Parachutes, and Army Reserve. Inside Job is nice to hear live.

    Sorry, but Big Wave is awful. Don't know how that one made it on the album.
  • Army & Navy
    Army & Navy Posts: 120
    I can't believe people are putting 'Pearl Jam' below 'Riot Act'. 'Riot Act' is clearly the worst PJ album, uninspired, rushed, Ed mumbling his way through it.

    Saying that though, 'Pearl Jam' is only slightly better. I agree with previous posts that it has no atmosphere, and the production is too lively. Thank god they are going back with Brendon O'Brien for the next one.

    Army Reserve & Inside Job at least see them experimenting abit..WWS & Severed Hand are good rockers, & Unemployable is nice & tuneful. The rest is generic Pearl Jam. We've heard better before....Comatose is horribly forced. Marker In The Sand feels like 2 songs stuck awkwardly together...

    We may of seen the best of Pearl Jam in terms of new albums..I think the next one will be key. They need a big, decent studio album that can match the aggression of the first 3 albums, and the wonderful sonic experiments of the next 3.
  • WeBelongTogether
    WeBelongTogether Posts: 340
    Gmoney wrote:
    With every other album i get a real visual of where the band was when they recorded it. I guess maybe a view into their state of mind at the time they made the album. You can feel through the album what inspired them to write. With all the other albums there is, at least at some point in the record, a sense of either exploration, deep sadness, anger, protest or triumph. I think in Ed's lyrical writing when his tone is motivated by either sadness, loss, curiosity, or anger we get the best pj songs. I think that tone echoes through the band and even impacts the music too. Avocado has some obviously sad songs, (Comeback) but I think in general Ed and the rest of the band were a bunch of happy, comfortable, successful, carefree guys who made an album for the sake of making an album. If you think about it, this is the first time we've had them in this state of mind...

    Ya, World Wide Suicide is so "carefree"
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  • Gmoney
    Gmoney Posts: 1,618
    WeBelongTogether wrote:
    Ya, World Wide Suicide is so "carefree"
    not that the subject matter is carefree, but the band members personally were at the time they recorded the album. It's why the album and that song specifically didn't connect like past songs... just a thought
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  • Its Evolution Baby
    Its Evolution Baby Posts: 849
    Army & Navy wrote:
    I can't believe people are putting 'Pearl Jam' below 'Riot Act'. 'Riot Act' is clearly the worst PJ album, uninspired, rushed, Ed mumbling his way through it.

    Saying that though, 'Pearl Jam' is only slightly better. I agree with previous posts that it has no atmosphere, and the production is too lively. Thank god they are going back with Brendon O'Brien for the next one.

    Army Reserve & Inside Job at least see them experimenting abit..WWS & Severed Hand are good rockers, & Unemployable is nice & tuneful. The rest is generic Pearl Jam. We've heard better before....Comatose is horribly forced. Marker In The Sand feels like 2 songs stuck awkwardly together...

    We may of seen the best of Pearl Jam in terms of new albums..I think the next one will be key. They need a big, decent studio album that can match the aggression of the first 3 albums, and the wonderful sonic experiments of the next 3.

    Exactly right. Ed sounds awful on Riot Act like he doesn't even want to be there.

    The whole band sounded invigorated with Avo. While it still wasn't the perfect album I wanted from them it does give me a lot of hope for the next one.
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  • yoke
    yoke Posts: 1,440
    I actually haven't taken it out of my changer in my truck in about 3months.. I hear it all the time, I do still get into it while I go to and from work.
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  • halszka123
    halszka123 Posts: 1,109
    Army & Navy wrote:
    I can't believe people are putting 'Pearl Jam' below 'Riot Act'. 'Riot Act' is clearly the worst PJ album, uninspired, rushed, Ed mumbling his way through it.

    Saying that though, 'Pearl Jam' is only slightly better. I agree with previous posts that it has no atmosphere, and the production is too lively. Thank god they are going back with Brendon O'Brien for the next one.

    Army Reserve & Inside Job at least see them experimenting abit..WWS & Severed Hand are good rockers, & Unemployable is nice & tuneful. The rest is generic Pearl Jam. We've heard better before....Comatose is horribly forced. Marker In The Sand feels like 2 songs stuck awkwardly together...

    We may of seen the best of Pearl Jam in terms of new albums..I think the next one will be key. They need a big, decent studio album that can match the aggression of the first 3 albums, and the wonderful sonic experiments of the next 3.
    For me Avocado is much better than Binaural. It's really good album for me
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  • pearljammer20
    pearljammer20 Posts: 116
    Crazy Breed wrote:
    you are all the collective equivalent of a dip-shit stuck in the 90's yelling "play Jeremy" at a concert.

    yeah that's right..i said it...it's a thinker so it will go over a lot of your heads

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  • NeverbeenLedbetter
    NeverbeenLedbetter Posts: 213
    I play it all the time, it's not their best but I thought it was a very good release.
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  • gozzo5058
    gozzo5058 Posts: 611
    avocado is a fine album...play it frequently
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