Immigration

mickeyrat · 12:00AM

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Halifax2TheMax said:

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Only missing the cattle cars and ovens, I suppose?

Yes. Deportation or even detention is not a firing squad, a gas shower or an oven. You may hate the way people are treated, which is objectionable, but be real. Not even close.

*The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

Does Singapore deport illegals to South Sudan, since we're comparing?

They just say no. What is your point?

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You compared Singapore having the police show up and arrest you for being in the country without a visa in some false comparison. Deporting folks to South Sudan despite no connections or El Salvador CCOT is acceptable to you because “Singapore”?

Not sure where you are going with your point, just noting that there are countries that are more strict about their immigration policies. Much more strict than the US and an administration that actually follows up. That is all. Never said arrest, they just ask you to extend your visa or leave. As usual, you make it more than it is.
*The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

Here’s your lame ass false comparison post of Singapore’s immigration policy versus ‘Murikkka’s, from the Trump/Admin Policies thread:

No there is not. Just you comparing immigration enforcement to a death camp. Try to live in Singapore without a visa. The police also come to your residence and throw you out of the country, but nobody talks about that. But hey you might get good noodles and a pat on the back on the way out.

Cops bad, ICE good, eh?

Nah. It is called a global perspective. Again, and again, not saying I agree with ICE tactics. Simply it is harder to stay in certain countries beyond your visa. You can call it lame all day long. Try overstaying your visa in China. They will not send you to Prince Edward Island.

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Another false comparison. Chiiiiiiiiiiiiiina because it’s Chiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiina and Singapore with its what, 47-57 years of one party rule. Do either have a Declaration of Independence, Bill of Rights or Constitution? You know, those flimsey worthless pieces of paper that separate “us” from “them”?
If they won’t send you to PEI, how about South Sudan or CECOT?

It is not false that is reality. You cannot stay in certain countries. And they enforce it. But stay in the US or Canada as long as you like. It is not a false comparison. I have had Chinese authorities come to my room and say you need to leave tomorrow. With guns. Big ones. So keep believing your beliefs. Enjoy your king crab in Halifax. That is not how it works in Asia.

enforcement of people who overstay seems to be vastly lax compared to those who are seeking asylum or ARE IN THE SYSTEM waiting for adjudication...

That may be true. The US cannot keep track of all the people that come here illegally. The has always been the case. Heck I know a few people that overstayed their H1B Visas for years with no repercussions. And as far as asylum goes, what percentage do you think are legit claims?

no clue. but if they are following all the rules as set by the court then......

mickeyrat · 11:22AM

🇺🇸 America’s traditional immigration policy permitted freedom of movement.

America’s Founders believed that the United States should be, as George Washington repeatedly put it, “open to receive not only the Opulent and respectable Stranger, but the oppressed and persecuted of all Nations and Religions.”

Learn more about the Founders’ immigration policy with Cato Courses: https://ow.ly/hwWH50Zg4PO

Halifax2TheMax · 5:12PM

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Seems The Hamptons need ICE to come knocking and kick in a few doors, eh?

Visuals by Kelly Nano-Miranda

Text by Binyamin Appelbaum

Ms. Nano-Miranda is a photographer from the East End of Long Island. Mr. Appelbaum is an Opinion writer.

June 28, 2026

The wealthiest residents of the Hamptons aren’t in the Hamptons in early May. For the most part, they’re in New York City. But there are still traffic jams at rush hour and people in the houses, preparing for the people who own the houses.

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The southeastern end of Long Island has two populations: the residents, who are rarely in residence, and the workers, who are usually there but never feel at home. Both move through the same streets, the same houses, the same rooms — and yet they rarely encounter one another. The people paid to wash the large glass windows in the beachfront mansions are also paid to be gone before the arrival of the people who enjoy the clear views of the ocean. The people hired to clean the homes are the bookends to someone else’s summer weekends.

In Southampton, during the week, day laborers often wait for work in a grass field next to a 7-Eleven. On the weekends, all that remains are the patches of dirt where their feet have worn through the grass. As the buses of bright young things roll east from the city, the main road out of the Hamptons is clogged with pickup trucks and vans dressed in the liveries of landscaping services, construction firms, cleaning firms. Locals call it the “trade parade.”

Many of the residents, who come to look at one another, tend to look through the workers. They do it because they can and, more than that, because they need to. Some of the Hispanic immigrants who make this place run do not have the right to live in the country where they labor; the systematic dependence on workers without legal permission to be here requires the systematic pretense that they don’t exist.

It may seem odd to suggest there’s anything that the residents of this place can’t afford, but the fabulous Hamptons is a discount wonderland. As in other rich neighborhoods across America, almost everyone is getting a deal on one of the most expensive luxury goods: human labor. The nannies and dog walkers, the house cleaners and gardeners, the deliverymen and dishwashers — many of them are people from other places, willing to do jobs that Americans won’t take or to work for wages that Americans won’t abide. Often both. It’s a relationship of mutual dependence, and mutual unease.

Even workers who become citizens — or the second generation, born at Stony Brook Southampton Hospital — still feel like outsiders. One of the workers I met told me that he came from Peru two decades ago. He learned to build mansions, became an American citizen and built a home in the Hamptons for his own family. A few years ago, however, he sold his home because he could not afford the property taxes. Sometimes, he says, he feels like a ghost.

Opinion | The Hamptons’ Essential Luxury Good: Human Labor - The New York Times

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