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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 25,655
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    I have said it before and I will say it again. Our policies are more lenient than many places in the world. If you are here illegally at the moment, under the current administration, then you might not be safe. To be clear. There is aggressive enforcement going on. A civil infraction, or multiple infractions is enough. You are at risk of ICE enforcement. You might be 19, but ICE does not care and their enforcement tactics are harsh. If they catch you they are not putting you up at the Holiday Inn. You will go to detention, under shitty conditions and likely be deported.

    But you will not be sent to a death camp or a gas chamber. You will get fed. And maybe even clothed or receive medical treatment. It is not Nazi Germany Jose. Not even close. 
    Are you able to see how ice violates citizen’s constitutional rights? 
    I can see how people think there is a violation. But I can also see a law enforcement perspective. If you are a citizen and you experience an excessive ICE interaction, you will have a recourse. But if you are not a citizen or otherwise do not have a legal right to be here, then be warned.
    Ok so what recourse do the two Minneapolis folks who got murdered at point blank range have? 

    I would guess there are civil lawsuits pending. Jose gun shots rarely happen for no reason although it does occur. If an officer stops you for broken tail light or a speeding violation, asks for ID, tells you to stop the car and get out what reason would you have to not provide ID? 99.99% percent of the time there is no issue. Bad things can happen when people think they know more than the rights of police officers in the US. 
    we know our own rights. and the two victims in minnesota, those gunshots happened for no reason, so that blows the premise of your post right there.

    How about driving away from the police? Is that no reason?
    to be murdered? of course it is no reason to be fucking murdered.

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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,976
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    I have said it before and I will say it again. Our policies are more lenient than many places in the world. If you are here illegally at the moment, under the current administration, then you might not be safe. To be clear. There is aggressive enforcement going on. A civil infraction, or multiple infractions is enough. You are at risk of ICE enforcement. You might be 19, but ICE does not care and their enforcement tactics are harsh. If they catch you they are not putting you up at the Holiday Inn. You will go to detention, under shitty conditions and likely be deported.

    But you will not be sent to a death camp or a gas chamber. You will get fed. And maybe even clothed or receive medical treatment. It is not Nazi Germany Jose. Not even close. 
    Are you able to see how ice violates citizen’s constitutional rights? 
    I can see how people think there is a violation. But I can also see a law enforcement perspective. If you are a citizen and you experience an excessive ICE interaction, you will have a recourse. But if you are not a citizen or otherwise do not have a legal right to be here, then be warned.
    Ok so what recourse do the two Minneapolis folks who got murdered at point blank range have? 

    Bad things can happen when people think they know more than the rights of police officers in the US. 
    This comes across as a little weird. This sounds like you are kinda ok with bad things happening under certain circumstances. 

    Like, why is it the public’s fault if a bad thing happens if they get mouthy or belligerent rather than the police not using restraint? 

    *The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

     Because they “can” and “do”. Just comply.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 25,655

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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 46,379
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    I have said it before and I will say it again. Our policies are more lenient than many places in the world. If you are here illegally at the moment, under the current administration, then you might not be safe. To be clear. There is aggressive enforcement going on. A civil infraction, or multiple infractions is enough. You are at risk of ICE enforcement. You might be 19, but ICE does not care and their enforcement tactics are harsh. If they catch you they are not putting you up at the Holiday Inn. You will go to detention, under shitty conditions and likely be deported.

    But you will not be sent to a death camp or a gas chamber. You will get fed. And maybe even clothed or receive medical treatment. It is not Nazi Germany Jose. Not even close. 
    Are you able to see how ice violates citizen’s constitutional rights? 
    I can see how people think there is a violation. But I can also see a law enforcement perspective. If you are a citizen and you experience an excessive ICE interaction, you will have a recourse. But if you are not a citizen or otherwise do not have a legal right to be here, then be warned.
    Ok so what recourse do the two Minneapolis folks who got murdered at point blank range have? 

    I would guess there are civil lawsuits pending. Jose gun shots rarely happen for no reason although it does occur. If an officer stops you for broken tail light or a speeding violation, asks for ID, tells you to stop the car and get out what reason would you have to not provide ID? 99.99% percent of the time there is no issue. Bad things can happen when people think they know more than the rights of police officers in the US. 
    we know our own rights. and the two victims in minnesota, those gunshots happened for no reason, so that blows the premise of your post right there.

    How about driving away from the police? Is that no reason?

    ICE ARE CIVIL ENFORCEMENT FOR IMMIGRATION. THEY ARE NOT FUCKING COPS.
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 46,379
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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,681
    mickeyrat said:
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    I have said it before and I will say it again. Our policies are more lenient than many places in the world. If you are here illegally at the moment, under the current administration, then you might not be safe. To be clear. There is aggressive enforcement going on. A civil infraction, or multiple infractions is enough. You are at risk of ICE enforcement. You might be 19, but ICE does not care and their enforcement tactics are harsh. If they catch you they are not putting you up at the Holiday Inn. You will go to detention, under shitty conditions and likely be deported.

    But you will not be sent to a death camp or a gas chamber. You will get fed. And maybe even clothed or receive medical treatment. It is not Nazi Germany Jose. Not even close. 
    Are you able to see how ice violates citizen’s constitutional rights? 
    I can see how people think there is a violation. But I can also see a law enforcement perspective. If you are a citizen and you experience an excessive ICE interaction, you will have a recourse. But if you are not a citizen or otherwise do not have a legal right to be here, then be warned.
    Ok so what recourse do the two Minneapolis folks who got murdered at point blank range have? 

    I would guess there are civil lawsuits pending. Jose gun shots rarely happen for no reason although it does occur. If an officer stops you for broken tail light or a speeding violation, asks for ID, tells you to stop the car and get out what reason would you have to not provide ID? 99.99% percent of the time there is no issue. Bad things can happen when people think they know more than the rights of police officers in the US. 
    we know our own rights. and the two victims in minnesota, those gunshots happened for no reason, so that blows the premise of your post right there.

    How about driving away from the police? Is that no reason?

    ICE ARE CIVIL ENFORCEMENT FOR IMMIGRATION. THEY ARE NOT FUCKING COPS.

    You are wrong. No need to shout. They enforce laws. Just like every other law enforcement officer. Even fish and wildlife officers. 
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 25,655
    Get_Right said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    I have said it before and I will say it again. Our policies are more lenient than many places in the world. If you are here illegally at the moment, under the current administration, then you might not be safe. To be clear. There is aggressive enforcement going on. A civil infraction, or multiple infractions is enough. You are at risk of ICE enforcement. You might be 19, but ICE does not care and their enforcement tactics are harsh. If they catch you they are not putting you up at the Holiday Inn. You will go to detention, under shitty conditions and likely be deported.

    But you will not be sent to a death camp or a gas chamber. You will get fed. And maybe even clothed or receive medical treatment. It is not Nazi Germany Jose. Not even close. 
    Are you able to see how ice violates citizen’s constitutional rights? 
    I can see how people think there is a violation. But I can also see a law enforcement perspective. If you are a citizen and you experience an excessive ICE interaction, you will have a recourse. But if you are not a citizen or otherwise do not have a legal right to be here, then be warned.
    Ok so what recourse do the two Minneapolis folks who got murdered at point blank range have? 

    I would guess there are civil lawsuits pending. Jose gun shots rarely happen for no reason although it does occur. If an officer stops you for broken tail light or a speeding violation, asks for ID, tells you to stop the car and get out what reason would you have to not provide ID? 99.99% percent of the time there is no issue. Bad things can happen when people think they know more than the rights of police officers in the US. 
    we know our own rights. and the two victims in minnesota, those gunshots happened for no reason, so that blows the premise of your post right there.

    How about driving away from the police? Is that no reason?

    ICE ARE CIVIL ENFORCEMENT FOR IMMIGRATION. THEY ARE NOT FUCKING COPS.

    You are wrong. No need to shout. They enforce laws. Just like every other law enforcement officer. Even fish and wildlife officers. 
    "Immigration officers often identify themselves as “police,” but they are not police. Ask if they are from Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) or Customs and Border Protection (CBP). If they are immigration officers, follow these guidelines about what information to provide.

      • If you are a U.S. citizen or have lawful immigration status: Show your passport, legal permanent resident card, work permit, or other documentation of your status. If you are over the age of 18, you should carry your papers with you at all times.
      • If you are undocumented: You have the right to remain silent and do not have to discuss your immigration or citizenship status with the police, immigration agents, or other officials. Anything you tell an officer can later be used against you in immigration court.
    • If an officer knocks on your door: Do not open the door. Teach your children not to open the door. Officers must have a warrant signed by a judge to enter your home. ICE “warrants” are not signed by judges; they are ICE forms signed by ICE officers and they do not grant authority to enter a home without consent of the occupant(s)."

    taken straight from national immigrant justice center website.

    https://immigrantjustice.org/for-immigrants/know-your-rights/ice-encounter/#:~:text=Immigration officers often identify themselves,about what information to provide.
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 32,856
    Get_Right said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    I have said it before and I will say it again. Our policies are more lenient than many places in the world. If you are here illegally at the moment, under the current administration, then you might not be safe. To be clear. There is aggressive enforcement going on. A civil infraction, or multiple infractions is enough. You are at risk of ICE enforcement. You might be 19, but ICE does not care and their enforcement tactics are harsh. If they catch you they are not putting you up at the Holiday Inn. You will go to detention, under shitty conditions and likely be deported.

    But you will not be sent to a death camp or a gas chamber. You will get fed. And maybe even clothed or receive medical treatment. It is not Nazi Germany Jose. Not even close. 
    Are you able to see how ice violates citizen’s constitutional rights? 
    I can see how people think there is a violation. But I can also see a law enforcement perspective. If you are a citizen and you experience an excessive ICE interaction, you will have a recourse. But if you are not a citizen or otherwise do not have a legal right to be here, then be warned.
    Ok so what recourse do the two Minneapolis folks who got murdered at point blank range have? 

    I would guess there are civil lawsuits pending. Jose gun shots rarely happen for no reason although it does occur. If an officer stops you for broken tail light or a speeding violation, asks for ID, tells you to stop the car and get out what reason would you have to not provide ID? 99.99% percent of the time there is no issue. Bad things can happen when people think they know more than the rights of police officers in the US. 
    we know our own rights. and the two victims in minnesota, those gunshots happened for no reason, so that blows the premise of your post right there.

    How about driving away from the police? Is that no reason?

    ICE ARE CIVIL ENFORCEMENT FOR IMMIGRATION. THEY ARE NOT FUCKING COPS.

    You are wrong. No need to shout. They enforce laws. Just like every other law enforcement officer. Even fish and wildlife officers. 
    "Immigration officers often identify themselves as “police,” but they are not police. Ask if they are from Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) or Customs and Border Protection (CBP). If they are immigration officers, follow these guidelines about what information to provide.

      • If you are a U.S. citizen or have lawful immigration status: Show your passport, legal permanent resident card, work permit, or other documentation of your status. If you are over the age of 18, you should carry your papers with you at all times.
      • If you are undocumented: You have the right to remain silent and do not have to discuss your immigration or citizenship status with the police, immigration agents, or other officials. Anything you tell an officer can later be used against you in immigration court.
    • If an officer knocks on your door: Do not open the door. Teach your children not to open the door. Officers must have a warrant signed by a judge to enter your home. ICE “warrants” are not signed by judges; they are ICE forms signed by ICE officers and they do not grant authority to enter a home without consent of the occupant(s)."

    taken straight from national immigrant justice center website.

    https://immigrantjustice.org/for-immigrants/know-your-rights/ice-encounter/#:~:text=Immigration officers often identify themselves,about what information to provide.
    Who needs badges I don’t have to show you no stinking badges! 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,976
    Get_Right said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    I have said it before and I will say it again. Our policies are more lenient than many places in the world. If you are here illegally at the moment, under the current administration, then you might not be safe. To be clear. There is aggressive enforcement going on. A civil infraction, or multiple infractions is enough. You are at risk of ICE enforcement. You might be 19, but ICE does not care and their enforcement tactics are harsh. If they catch you they are not putting you up at the Holiday Inn. You will go to detention, under shitty conditions and likely be deported.

    But you will not be sent to a death camp or a gas chamber. You will get fed. And maybe even clothed or receive medical treatment. It is not Nazi Germany Jose. Not even close. 
    Are you able to see how ice violates citizen’s constitutional rights? 
    I can see how people think there is a violation. But I can also see a law enforcement perspective. If you are a citizen and you experience an excessive ICE interaction, you will have a recourse. But if you are not a citizen or otherwise do not have a legal right to be here, then be warned.
    Ok so what recourse do the two Minneapolis folks who got murdered at point blank range have? 

    I would guess there are civil lawsuits pending. Jose gun shots rarely happen for no reason although it does occur. If an officer stops you for broken tail light or a speeding violation, asks for ID, tells you to stop the car and get out what reason would you have to not provide ID? 99.99% percent of the time there is no issue. Bad things can happen when people think they know more than the rights of police officers in the US. 
    we know our own rights. and the two victims in minnesota, those gunshots happened for no reason, so that blows the premise of your post right there.

    How about driving away from the police? Is that no reason?

    ICE ARE CIVIL ENFORCEMENT FOR IMMIGRATION. THEY ARE NOT FUCKING COPS.

    You are wrong. No need to shout. They enforce laws. Just like every other law enforcement officer. Even fish and wildlife officers. 
    "Immigration officers often identify themselves as “police,” but they are not police. Ask if they are from Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) or Customs and Border Protection (CBP). If they are immigration officers, follow these guidelines about what information to provide.

      • If you are a U.S. citizen or have lawful immigration status: Show your passport, legal permanent resident card, work permit, or other documentation of your status. If you are over the age of 18, you should carry your papers with you at all times.
      • If you are undocumented: You have the right to remain silent and do not have to discuss your immigration or citizenship status with the police, immigration agents, or other officials. Anything you tell an officer can later be used against you in immigration court.
    • If an officer knocks on your door: Do not open the door. Teach your children not to open the door. Officers must have a warrant signed by a judge to enter your home. ICE “warrants” are not signed by judges; they are ICE forms signed by ICE officers and they do not grant authority to enter a home without consent of the occupant(s)."

    taken straight from national immigrant justice center website.

    https://immigrantjustice.org/for-immigrants/know-your-rights/ice-encounter/#:~:text=Immigration officers often identify themselves,about what information to provide.

    *The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

    You know who else required you to carry zee papers? Fucking Nazis, that’s who. But don’t you dare make the comparison.
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  • Get_Right
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    ICE is not coming for you for no reason. Trouble happens when people think they have more rights than they actually do. And yes, comparison to the Nazis is an offensive joke. The Nazis did not ask for papers, they just pulled the trigger and murdered people. In large numbers. But keep comparing this immigration enforcement to the WW2 death squads. Not even close.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 25,655
    Get_Right said:
    ICE is not coming for you for no reason. Trouble happens when people think they have more rights than they actually do. And yes, comparison to the Nazis is an offensive joke. The Nazis did not ask for papers, they just pulled the trigger and murdered people. In large numbers. But keep comparing this immigration enforcement to the WW2 death squads. Not even close.
    wrong again.

    nazis asked jews to carry papers AND their passports, which were invalidated and had to identify them has jews. check the nuremberg race laws, and while you are at it, pick up a history book.

    you should not be offended by history, nor the apt comparison of current events to historical ones. you should be offended that your own government is doing it.


    directly from the united states holocaust memorial museum-

    https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/timeline-event/holocaust/1933-1938/reich-ministry-of-the-interior-invalidates-all-german-passports-held-by-jew#:~:text=All German Jews were obliged,identifying red letter “J”.

    On October 5, 1938, the Reich Ministry of the Interior invalidates all German passports held by Jews. Jews must surrender their old passports, which will become valid only after the letter “J” has been stamped on them.

    The government required Jews to identify themselves in ways that would permanently separate them from the rest of the German population. In an August 1938 law, authorities decreed that by January 1, 1939, Jewish men and women bearing first names of “non-Jewish” origin had to add “Israel” and “Sara,” respectively, to their given names. All German Jews were obliged to carry identity cards that indicated their heritage, and, in the autumn of 1938, all Jewish passports were stamped with an identifying red letter “J”. As Nazi leaders quickened their war preparations, antisemitic legislation in Germany and Austria paved the way for more radical persecution of Jews.

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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Get_Right said:
    ICE is not coming for you for no reason. Trouble happens when people think they have more rights than they actually do. And yes, comparison to the Nazis is an offensive joke. The Nazis did not ask for papers, they just pulled the trigger and murdered people. In large numbers. But keep comparing this immigration enforcement to the WW2 death squads. Not even close.

    *The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.


    Sure, the Nazis required citizens to carry identification cards and documents but never asked to see them. Sure.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 25,655
    Get_Right said:
    ICE is not coming for you for no reason. Trouble happens when people think they have more rights than they actually do. And yes, comparison to the Nazis is an offensive joke. The Nazis did not ask for papers, they just pulled the trigger and murdered people. In large numbers. But keep comparing this immigration enforcement to the WW2 death squads. Not even close.
    also nobody is comparing ice to death squads. ice is operating in cities, while the einsatzgruppen roamed the countryside rounding up or killing jews in villages. do not think for one second ice would not do that, because they have outright murdered american citizens already.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    “More rights than they actually do.” Like the freedom to peacefully assemble? Or express an opinion? Maybe be free of unreasonable searches and seizures without a warrant? Nah, ain’t got rights. Just comply. Because they “can” and “do”.
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,905
    Get_Right said:
    ICE is not coming for you for no reason. Trouble happens when people think they have more rights than they actually do. And yes, comparison to the Nazis is an offensive joke. The Nazis did not ask for papers, they just pulled the trigger and murdered people. In large numbers. But keep comparing this immigration enforcement to the WW2 death squads. Not even close.
    "No reason?"
    There are literally dozens if not hundreds of examples of legal U.S citizens being detained for....

    NO REASON

    Other than they might not be white enough 
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 25,655
    Get_Right said:
    ICE is not coming for you for no reason. Trouble happens when people think they have more rights than they actually do. And yes, comparison to the Nazis is an offensive joke. The Nazis did not ask for papers, they just pulled the trigger and murdered people. In large numbers. But keep comparing this immigration enforcement to the WW2 death squads. Not even close.
    "No reason?"
    There are literally dozens if not hundreds of examples of legal U.S citizens being detained for....

    NO REASON

    Other than they might not be white enough 
    they have even murdered the white ones in public. who knows what they are doing with the ones they actually arrest?
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,976
    Get_Right said:
    ICE is not coming for you for no reason. Trouble happens when people think they have more rights than they actually do. And yes, comparison to the Nazis is an offensive joke. The Nazis did not ask for papers, they just pulled the trigger and murdered people. In large numbers. But keep comparing this immigration enforcement to the WW2 death squads. Not even close.
    "No reason?"
    There are literally dozens if not hundreds of examples of legal U.S citizens being detained for....

    NO REASON

    Other than they might not be white enough 
    they have even murdered the white ones in public. who knows what they are doing with the ones they actually arrest?

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    They detain them in facilities run by contractors who have no experience with detaining people, that’s what they do. After that? Horror stories forthcoming, give it time.
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  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,681
    I am not saying it is right. But it is not Nazi Germany. 6 million murdered. That is not what is happening, no matter your position on the the violation of due process rights or the poor treatment of human beings. 
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,753
    Get_Right said:
    ICE is not coming for you for no reason.
    But that’s not what happening. They are grabbing any brown person they deem suspicious.