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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 18,844
    Tim Simmons said:
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Poncier said:
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    Vitalogensia said:
    The Hill is reporting Trump’s announcing a $700M investment in coal. 


    I don’t want to count chickens just yet, but I do think this will help the country prosper well into the 19th, and potentially, 20th centuries. 
    did he say "klllleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen coal"?
    you forgot "beautiful"



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    And he indeed did say it.

    Trump uses wartime powers to dole out $700m to ‘clean, beautiful’ coal

    US president announces plans for two new coal plants, in Alaska and West Virginia, using Defense Production Act

    Donald Trump is using wartime presidential authority to hand $700m to coal-fired power plants in the US, the latest move by the president to bolster what he called “clean, beautiful coal”, despite it being the dirtiest of fossil fuels.

    “Today, we’re taking historic action to bring down the price of energy and the cost of living for all Americans with the power of clean, beautiful coal,” he said at xa press conference on Thursday.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jun/04/trump-coal-defense-production-act

    who the fuck thinks coal is beautiful???
    he does, because only knows 6 adjectives.


    does that include "tremendous" and "like nobody has ever seen" or are those two different things?
    Big
    Tremendous
    Beautiful
    Huge
    Strong
    Sad

    Plus, he knows one adverb: "Bigly"
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 44,304

    *The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

    Because there can’t possibly be any comparisons. Not even close. People better wake the fuck up.

    The White House’s Latest Provocation Is ‘Grotesque and Terrifying and Juvenile’

    “They walk among us.” The glowing green letters emerge ominously against a dark backdrop. Above them hover the words “aliens” and “declassified,” suggesting the release — long awaited in some corners of the internet — of secret government files concerning extraterrestrials. Slowly, tantalizingly, more text appears: “For 60 years, the U.S. government has kept a closely guarded secret.” Then the big reveal: It’s not the trailer for a horror film; it’s a White House web page, posted last Thursday. And the scary creatures in question aren’t extraterrestrials; they’re the other kind of aliens — the immigrant kind, the kind hunted by ICE.

    “Aliens have been walking among us, living in our neighborhoods, and interacting with us in our daily lives,” the page announces. “They’ve shopped in the same stores, attended the same classes as our children, and lived seemingly normal human existences.” That’s the joke: Human beings are described as nonhuman invaders. Fascism, but make it a troll.

    This web page, which invites users to look up the number of immigrants supposedly arrested on charges of criminal activity in American cities and towns, belongs to a subgenre of Trumpian gestures that are menacing and sophomoric at the same time. “Grotesque and terrifying and juvenile,” is how Ernesto Verdeja, a genocide-prevention expert at the University of Notre Dame, described it to me. These gestures are hard to write about: The ugliness is undisguised, so what is there to say? And yet, these statements, step by preposterous step, change the world we live in.

    With phrases like, “They do not belong here” and, “Deport them all,” the page struck me as an incitement for Americans to commit acts of violence against immigrants. But Benjamin Valentino, a professor of government at Dartmouth College, thinks that the purpose of the page is not to get Americans to do anything: It’s to get them to do nothing, while the government commits its campaign of cruelty against millions of people just trying to live in peace. “They want a majority of the population to turn their backs,” he said. “That’s all that’s necessary.”

    Valentino co-founded the Early Warning Project, which assesses the risk of mass atrocities around the world. To be sure, anti-immigrant violence in the United States does not approach the scale of the atrocities Valentino usually studies. But the dehumanizing language of the sort used by the Trump administration is, he said, “a pretty standard indicator” of risk, a necessary if insufficient condition of mass violence directed at a particular group.

    “It’s not that it turns normal people into murderers,” Valentino said. “It’s that it turns them into bystanders.”

    To the extent that the Trump administration has pulled back on its violent anti-immigrant campaign, it has done so because nonimmigrants have stepped up — in the courts and, especially, in the streets. The most dramatic confrontations took place this past winter in Minneapolis, but in the months since the federal government ended its occupation of that city, resistance has continued. In Newark, N.J., demonstrators have been protesting the conditions at the Delaney Hall ICE detention facility. At least 63 people have been arrested in the past week alone. In New York City, a relatively new coalition called Hands Off NYC has, since January, trained more than 7,000 volunteers to peacefully resist ICE. The Aliens web page, Valentino thinks, is intended to discourage this kind of activity.

    “The key is that you are supposed to see your city with a big red dot over it,” Valentino said, referring to a map on the website, then click to read, supposedly, the number of immigrants who have been charged with crimes. (For example, “Jamestown, N.Y.: 10; Larceny, Obstructing the Police; Ecuador, Guatemala, Mexico, Nigeria.”) “And you see the charges — do you want to risk your life for this kind of person?”

    When the page went up, the American Immigration Council, a pro-immigration advocacy organization, happened to be hosting a gathering of data experts. Participants thought they saw something interesting. “The page is poorly coded, badly designed, and yet weirdly transparent about some things the administration hasn’t been transparent about before,” Aaron Reichlin-Melnick, a senior fellow at the council, told me. It appeared that the map was based on raw data of ICE arrests — information that the government had mostly kept secret since the beginning of President Trump’s current term. The map is possibly the best document to date of the scale of the ICE campaign, which, it shows, has raged not only in big cities but in small towns, where it’s sometimes less visible.

    As is usual for the Trump administration, the figures are decontextualized and misrepresented. In addition to the map, the page contains a supposed tally of “encounters,” a term that has one meaning in 1970s sci-fi and another in Customs and Border Protection-speak, where it typically refers to instances in which immigrants are apprehended. What struck me after spending too much time staring at the page was that it wants you to be afraid of all aliens: the space kind and the “illegal” kind, but also the “legal” kind, foreign-born people who have been living in this country for decades. As for the counter, it’s tracking nothing. The numbers just tick upward at a perfectly steady pace, one every second and a bit.

    Underscoring the sophomoricaspect of this astonishing document is the fact that it’s shot through with references to “The X-Files.” I caught only one of them: The last lines say, “The truth is no longer out there. It’s right here. Right now” — a nod to the show’s tag line. Verdeja, the Notre Dame professor, grew up with the show, so he pointed out some other echoes, such as the combination of interplanetary warfare and a deep-state conspiracy. But superimposed on all that pop culture are the white supremacist tropes. The sentences about aliens “walking among us, living in our neighborhoods,” Verdeja said, read to him like invocations of the Great Replacement theory, which has become so familiar as to seem almost mainstream. “It’s similar to the way Jews were talked about in Europe in the 1920s and ’30s,” Verdeja said.

    He made the comparison gingerly, wary of falling into an alarmist cliché. But the ideologues of Trump’s immigration policies are taking no such pains. A couple of days after the “Aliens” page was published, Gregory Bovino, the former head of the U.S. Border Patrol who oversaw the federal immigration operation in Minneapolis, traveled to Portugal for a meeting of far-right politicians to discuss “remigration,” a concept that refers to the forcible displacement of millions of people on the basis of their ethnicity in the wake of World War I — what we now call ethnic cleansing.

    Driven by the same nativist and xenophobic ideas, the United States adopted the Immigration Acts of 1921 and 1924, which ended mass immigration by introducing national-origin quotas designed to favor Northern and Western Europeans and exclude nonwhite immigrants almost entirely. These quotas stayed in place for four decades — until they were repealed just over 60 years ago, which is when the White House page claims the story of the aliens begins.

    The point of making historical connections is not to say that any two actions, or any two eras, are exactly alike. Context always changes. But it’s important to see that this web page isn’t just a troll. It didn’t come out of nowhere. Provocations like this are part of an old and terrible story, and it’s still being written today.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/05/opinion/aliens-ice-immigration-white-house.html


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  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,806
    Have any of you actually been to China? A large majority of their factories are powered by coal. Make no mistake every deal he makes is to enrich. He will leave office with more money, and more on the table, than any other president. It is not about people or politics, it is about money. Even Clinton went in broke but exited a millionaire. Nothing new here.
  • Vitalogensia
    Vitalogensia Posts: 2,343
    Get_Right said:
    Have any of you actually been to China? A large majority of their factories are powered by coal. Make no mistake every deal he makes is to enrich. He will leave office with more money, and more on the table, than any other president. It is not about people or politics, it is about money. Even Clinton went in broke but exited a millionaire. Nothing new here.
    You’re not suggesting that because China uses coal for their factories, that we should be investing more into coal, right?  
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 44,407
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    brianlux said:
    And yet millions of people still support the clown.  Remarkably insane.

    *The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

    Some of them are on here, supporting him overtly or covertly.


    I sometimes wonder if supporting Clown Man is really their M.O.  Does anyone really believe he is capable of functioning as a ruler?
    But of course I' speaking generally.  I'm not specifically talking about one one here.  I'm just thinking more in general about MAGA trolls and/ or MAGA foreign produced bots.  Their main objectives are to distract, bait, create confusion, and break things down and destroy rather than build up good and useful things.  It's basically very juvenile behavior.  
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,806
    Vitalogensia said:
    Get_Right said:
    Have any of you actually been to China? A large majority of their factories are powered by coal. Make no mistake every deal he makes is to enrich. He will leave office with more money, and more on the table, than any other president. It is not about people or politics, it is about money. Even Clinton went in broke but exited a millionaire. Nothing new here.
    You’re not suggesting that because China uses coal for their factories, that we should be investing more into coal, right?  
    Not suggesting anything. Just stating what I have seen. But if Trump is long on it there might be money to be made. I am sure he will profit.
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,826
    Get_Right said:
    Have any of you actually been to China? A large majority of their factories are powered by coal. Make no mistake every deal he makes is to enrich. He will leave office with more money, and more on the table, than any other president. It is not about people or politics, it is about money. Even Clinton went in broke but exited a millionaire. Nothing new here.
    How much $Clinton crypto did foreign countries buy when he was in office? 
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,806
    Go Beavers said:
    Get_Right said:
    Have any of you actually been to China? A large majority of their factories are powered by coal. Make no mistake every deal he makes is to enrich. He will leave office with more money, and more on the table, than any other president. It is not about people or politics, it is about money. Even Clinton went in broke but exited a millionaire. Nothing new here.
    How much $Clinton crypto did foreign countries buy when he was in office? 

    You can try to measure the black market but it will never be accurate. No matter the culprit. Bill made his money from a book deal and perhaps a few side deals. Same with Hillary. Once they became New Yorkers, the money poured in. 
  • Vitalogensia
    Vitalogensia Posts: 2,343
    Get_Right said:
    Vitalogensia said:
    Get_Right said:
    Have any of you actually been to China? A large majority of their factories are powered by coal. Make no mistake every deal he makes is to enrich. He will leave office with more money, and more on the table, than any other president. It is not about people or politics, it is about money. Even Clinton went in broke but exited a millionaire. Nothing new here.
    You’re not suggesting that because China uses coal for their factories, that we should be investing more into coal, right?  
    Not suggesting anything. Just stating what I have seen. But if Trump is long on it there might be money to be made. I am sure he will profit.
    Okay. I was confused, didn’t know if there was a correlation. 
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 12,041
    Oh noooooo ALIENS!!!

  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 26,057
    Bentleyspop said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    Vitalogensia said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    He's such a fucking dupe. Now he's saying he would be "honored" to meet with the Iranian leader. After all that shit he said? Fucking idiot.

    Almost seems like he's caving to an Iranian demand
    not to mention falling asleep in the oval office, in public, yet again. multiple times this week.

    why do we have to tolerate this bullshit? people get fired for sleeping at work. his inability to stay awake is a national security threat.
    Good point! Our HRIS system at work has a termination code for sleeping on the job. But we also do background checks that bar felons and/or rapist from employment, so I guess it doesn’t apply here. 
    like a king, the president can do as he likes. 
    Yup
    The people who need to do something about the overt corruption, fraud, and outright theft don't have the guts to do anything about it.
    because they are in on it.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 26,057
    Get_Right said:
    Have any of you actually been to China? A large majority of their factories are powered by coal. Make no mistake every deal he makes is to enrich. He will leave office with more money, and more on the table, than any other president. It is not about people or politics, it is about money. Even Clinton went in broke but exited a millionaire. Nothing new here.
    yes this is new. have you heard of a thing called the emoluments clause?

    it used to be a thing before trump's first presidency.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,826
    Get_Right said:
    Go Beavers said:
    Get_Right said:
    Have any of you actually been to China? A large majority of their factories are powered by coal. Make no mistake every deal he makes is to enrich. He will leave office with more money, and more on the table, than any other president. It is not about people or politics, it is about money. Even Clinton went in broke but exited a millionaire. Nothing new here.
    How much $Clinton crypto did foreign countries buy when he was in office? 

    You can try to measure the black market but it will never be accurate. No matter the culprit. Bill made his money from a book deal and perhaps a few side deals. Same with Hillary. Once they became New Yorkers, the money poured in. 
    So zero dollars and zero Emolument Clause violations. 
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,806
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    Get_Right said:
    Have any of you actually been to China? A large majority of their factories are powered by coal. Make no mistake every deal he makes is to enrich. He will leave office with more money, and more on the table, than any other president. It is not about people or politics, it is about money. Even Clinton went in broke but exited a millionaire. Nothing new here.
    yes this is new. have you heard of a thing called the emoluments clause?

    it used to be a thing before trump's first presidency.
    Of course. FCPA is probably stronger. If you do not believe presidents, and many politicians for that matter, make back door deals to gain office, then you are naive. It its simplest, it is a wink and a nod. At its worst it is pay for play.

    The art of the deal. None of his agreements come without a payday. He is only interested in money. Not peace. Not politics. Not being remembered as a good president. Money.

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