Renee Nicole Good/ Alex Pretti/ Minneapolis

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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 44,211
    From a video by Heather Cox Richardson, January 24, 2026:
    "This is the moment at which it becomes too late for people to say after this, 'I didn't know what was going to happen.' It's out there now... it is no longer possible to say, 'Oh, I believe in law and order so I support Donald Trump.'  This is the moment when people have to say- regardless of party- either, 'I believe in our constitution,' or they have to say, 'No, I am siding with the likes of Steven Miller, and believe my existence is under siege by immigrants, and anything it takes to stop them, regardless of the constitution, regardless of American citizenship, regardless of rights, has to happen.'"

    If you choose the latter, you side with murdering innocent people.

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  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,710
    mace1229 said:
    This is probably the craziest thing I’ve seen.
    So many things went wrong here. Why were they so aggressive with the woman and shoved her to the ground when she clearly posed no threat? Why did they mace them both when they were on the ground? Why did so many agents tackle him after being maced? 
    Even if he did reach for his gun, which I don’t believe he did, why was DHS and ICE the aggressors to bring it to that point?
    And the immediate defense of this, claiming he was waiving a gun around despite no video showing that. A border patrol officer is on CNN right now claiming he was there to carry out a plan to massacre the agents, the whole narrative is worse than any of the others I think. It should be stated policy to not comment immediately after an incident like this, not make claims that can be easily proven false from multiple videos.
    It’d be nice every now and if everyone can just come together and admit when “their side” fucks up. This is beyond wrong. Literally 0 argument can be made for the murderers. This is the most cut and dry thing I’ve seen. The constant reaching to justify is pathetic. Reminds me of South Park honestly. The “it’s heading right for us” bit. 
  • D-Day
    D-Day Posts: 1,055

    What happened before the video footage - how the victim (or the woman) became a person of interest is worth an answer.

  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 10,189
    D-Day said:

    What happened before the video footage - how the victim (or the woman) became a person of interest is worth an answer.

    I’ve wondered the same thing. You can see a little bit before hand. You see her near the other side of the street, a short exchange of words with an office who looks like he gestures at her to go away. She’s walking away and on the other sidewalk when they run up and just shove her, making her fall flat back. I don’t see how you justify that. If she was impeding or posed a threat, arrest her. Don’t just walk up and shove then mace her while she’s on the ground.
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,840
    It’s almost like maybe these guys are unhinged lunatics and are not fit for this job. 
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 44,088
    edited January 25
    It’s almost like maybe these guys are unhinged lunatics and are not fit for this job. 


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    That, and likely recruited from lists or encouraged to apply by the likes of Patriot Front, Proud Boys, 3% and every other white nationalist/supremacist organization in ‘murikkka. There’s only 110 or so to recruit members from.
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  • njhaley1
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    D-Day said:

    What happened before the video footage - how the victim (or the woman) became a person of interest is worth an answer.

    He was holding a phone (proactively). 
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 32,919
    I’ve never felt this sick to be a citizen of this country I can’t find anything that makes me feel good about the state of affairs! Music is not doing it, I’m not drinking these days, even cooking isn’t taking my mind off things that have happened. I’ll say the one thing that does help me is just going outside and playing in the snow with my dog 🐶 
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  • D-Day
    D-Day Posts: 1,055

    Video is expanded now! 
    Few seconds added from the
     “main source” camera.




  • Bentleyspop
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    mace1229 said:
    This is probably the craziest thing I’ve seen.
    So many things went wrong here. Why were they so aggressive with the woman and shoved her to the ground when she clearly posed no threat? Why did they mace them both when they were on the ground? Why did so many agents tackle him after being maced? 
    Even if he did reach for his gun, which I don’t believe he did, why was DHS and ICE the aggressors to bring it to that point?
    And the immediate defense of this, claiming he was waiving a gun around despite no video showing that. A border patrol officer is on CNN right now claiming he was there to carry out a plan to massacre the agents, the whole narrative is worse than any of the others I think. It should be stated policy to not comment immediately after an incident like this, not make claims that can be easily proven false from multiple videos.
    That wasn't just any "border patrol officer." That was greg bovino. He is a complete piece of shit brainwashed cultist. Famous for notzee cosplay...

  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 15,629
    I’ve never felt this sick to be a citizen of this country I can’t find anything that makes me feel good about the state of affairs! Music is not doing it, I’m not drinking these days, even cooking isn’t taking my mind off things that have happened. I’ll say the one thing that does help me is just going outside and playing in the snow with my dog 🐶 
    I feel the same Jose. From UK 


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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 32,919
    I’ve never felt this sick to be a citizen of this country I can’t find anything that makes me feel good about the state of affairs! Music is not doing it, I’m not drinking these days, even cooking isn’t taking my mind off things that have happened. I’ll say the one thing that does help me is just going outside and playing in the snow with my dog 🐶 
    I feel the same Jose. From UK 
    Damn this is crazy for folks like you across the pond to be feeling it! I keep thinking if I move out of this country I won’t be feeling it, but there’s so much I’d have to do to get the fuck out! 
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 44,211
    I’ve never felt this sick to be a citizen of this country I can’t find anything that makes me feel good about the state of affairs! Music is not doing it, I’m not drinking these days, even cooking isn’t taking my mind off things that have happened. I’ll say the one thing that does help me is just going outside and playing in the snow with my dog 🐶 
    I feel the same Jose. From UK 
    Damn this is crazy for folks like you across the pond to be feeling it! I keep thinking if I move out of this country I won’t be feeling it, but there’s so much I’d have to do to get the fuck out! 
    Hang in there everyone.  They want us to feel despondent and hopeless.  It's hard not to.  But the tide will turn.  Keep your hope, don't give in. 
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  • g under p
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    njhaley1 said:

    In the image on the right is Mr. Pretti holding his phone? Also what has happened to that phone he was holding, using earlier? 

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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    The national anthem is a joke. Might as well as retire it with the current Nazi regime in power. “Land of the ‘free’”. Yea, sure. Free to be murdered by Nazi government thugs for exercising your rights. Remember those? Rights?
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  • njhaley1
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    g under p said:
    njhaley1 said:

    In the image on the right is Mr. Pretti holding his phone? Also what has happened to that phone he was holding, using earlier? 

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    That is his phone, he was filming with his right hand and used his left to shield his face when the pepper spray was used. 
  • D-Day
    D-Day Posts: 1,055
    edited January 25
    g under p said:
    njhaley1 said:

    In the image on the right is Mr. Pretti holding his phone? Also what has happened to that phone he was holding, using earlier? 

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    The moment shown on the right picture is hard to find in reality 😉
    + According to the video footage he was shot in the back.

    + According to an eyewitness he had more than one bullet wound.

    “The second witness account is from a pediatrician who lives nearby and saw the shooting. They said they did not see Pretti attack the federal agents or brandish a weapon.
    The witness ran outside, told federal agents they were a physician, and asked to assess Pretti’s condition. At first, the witness said, they refused — repeatedly asking to see their physician’s license, which they didn’t have with them. None of the agents were performing CPR, they wrote.
    One agent then agreed to let the physician assess Pretti, patting down the doctor to make sure they didn’t have a weapon.
    “I saw that the victim was lying on his side and was surrounded by several ICE agents. I was confused as to why the victim was on his side, because that is not standard practice when a victim has been shot,” the witness wrote. “Checking for a pulse and administering CPR is standard practice. Instead of doing either of those things, the ICE agents appeared to be counting his bullet wounds.”
    The physician wrote that they saw at least three bullet wounds in Pretti’s back, another in his upper left chest and another possible wound on his neck. They could not feel a pulse, and began CPR until EMS personnel arrived shortly after.”
    According to the audio footage more than five shots fired.
    Edit: ten


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  • tbergs
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    This seems apt. I feel the same way about mass shooters. The media and others looking to demonize or remove the human aspect and free will people exercised to perform atrocities on other humans.

    https://www.ft.com/content/5cafb652-86e6-49b6-a533-958e52e1639e
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 44,211
    tbergs said:
    This seems apt. I feel the same way about mass shooters. The media and others looking to demonize or remove the human aspect and free will people exercised to perform atrocities on other humans.

    https://www.ft.com/content/5cafb652-86e6-49b6-a533-958e52e1639e

    The article is behind a paywall.  Can you summarize please?
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  • Tim Simmons
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    heres a gift link