Ankle-biting Democrats

Tim Simmons said:

Lerxst1992 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mickeyrat said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Gern Blansten said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Gern Blansten said:

Wow....Walz withdraws

It would be a third term so not unheard of.

Fits right into the R attack of fraud waste and abuse of tax monies. Zohran can’t wait to start his turn at it.. Probably not seeing any movement on ACA subsidies before the midterms. Nice move, Tim.

It was a Benghazi style attack. Walz didn't have anything to do with the fraud and there were prosecutions.

The GOP was trotting it out because of that youtuber that put out the misleading videos. 

Except he took full responsibility.

as  leader worth a shit should. 

seem to recall a bygone era where the concept of "The Buck Stops Here" was in effect. 

Minnesota GOP manufactured all of the controversy and said so publically. 

exactly. imagine a world where the leader had zero to do with something but took full responsibility for it cuz that's part of the job of being a leader. Knowing the distraction takes away from the real issue. 

I remember those days when republican leaders were like that. Now it's only Democratic ones that fall on the sword. 

“Zero to do with”

Maybe ask google if a state's governor is responsible for the overall management and efficiency of the executive branch, which includes ensuring that effective financial controls are in place to prevent, deter, and detect fraud over spending.

I don't see what you are saying is any different than what Mickey or HFD are saying. The Buck stops with the leader. No one is arguing that, unless you are saying the leader should know every minuscule detail at all times always so is definitely responsible AND involved. 

By all accounts this happened under Walz watch, but probably not to his knowledge. He took the bullet and now a good politician who stood up for people and accomplished stuff that makes Minnesotans lives better will never politik again. 

Are you familiar with the financial concept that I referenced? Part of responsibility for internal financial controls is that they are monitored and determined to be operating effectively. That does not mean that a chief executive knows of every little problem. But it does mean that the system in place, constantly working and evaluating, and that is designed to catch stuff like this and is always monitored and working. It is 100% the job of every chief  executive in large organizations  to know this and make sure it’s operating effectively.

to be clear, you think impeachments (consequences) turn off swing and moderate voters who are generally unhappy with the current administration?

Lerxst1992 said:

Tim Simmons said:

Lerxst1992 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mickeyrat said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Gern Blansten said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Gern Blansten said:

Wow....Walz withdraws

It would be a third term so not unheard of.

Fits right into the R attack of fraud waste and abuse of tax monies. Zohran can’t wait to start his turn at it.. Probably not seeing any movement on ACA subsidies before the midterms. Nice move, Tim.

It was a Benghazi style attack. Walz didn't have anything to do with the fraud and there were prosecutions.

The GOP was trotting it out because of that youtuber that put out the misleading videos. 

Except he took full responsibility.

as  leader worth a shit should. 

seem to recall a bygone era where the concept of "The Buck Stops Here" was in effect. 

Minnesota GOP manufactured all of the controversy and said so publicly. 

exactly. imagine a world where the leader had zero to do with something but took full responsibility for it cuz that's part of the job of being a leader. Knowing the distraction takes away from the real issue. 

I remember those days when republican leaders were like that. Now it's only Democratic ones that fall on the sword. 

“Zero to do with”

Maybe ask google if a state's governor is responsible for the overall management and efficiency of the executive branch, which includes ensuring that effective financial controls are in place to prevent, deter, and detect fraud over spending.

I don't see what you are saying is any different than what Mickey or HFD are saying. The Buck stops with the leader. No one is arguing that, unless you are saying the leader should know every minuscule detail at all times always so is definitely responsible AND involved. 

By all accounts this happened under Walz watch, but probably not to his knowledge. He took the bullet and now a good politician who stood up for people and accomplished stuff that makes Minnesotans lives better will never politik again. 

Are you familiar with the financial concept that I referenced? Part of responsibility for internal financial controls is that they are monitored and determined to be operating effectively. That does not mean that a chief executive knows of every little problem. But it does mean that the system in place, constantly working and evaluating, and that is designed to catch stuff like this and is always monitored and working. It is 100% the job of every chief  executive in large organizations to know this and make sure it’s operating effectively.

Ok you you are both saying the same thing. You just chose to argue semantics over the phrase "zero to do with". :thumbsupemoji

Lerxst1992 said:

Impeach trump lol? They really want to help Vance out for 28 and step on that rake for a third time.

yes. look at the polls. americans are in favor of impeachment and removal. starting with noem.

gimmesometruth27 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Impeach trump lol? They really want to help Vance out for 28 and step on that rake for a third time.

now that i think about it, i should have said that i am going to miss you being around here to tell us all about how impeachment of trump again will be bad for democrats.

It will be just as meaningful as the last two impeachments . And just as meaningful as a moderate commenting on this forum.

They're obviously not gonna do it if they don't have the votes. 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2026/01/15/don-bacon-trump-greenland-impeachment/88195826007/#

Bentleyspop said:

josevolution said:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2026/01/15/don-bacon-trump-greenland-impeachment/88195826007/#

Uhmm this Republican apparently has drawn a line in the sand! 

He's a lame duck bootlicker.
When it comes down to it he doesn’t have the balls to do the right thing

Yeah no doubt for a minute I thought some republicans had grown a pair but as we’ve all seen they end up bending the knee! 

gimmesometruth27 said:

josevolution said:

Bentleyspop said:

josevolution said:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2026/01/15/don-bacon-trump-greenland-impeachment/88195826007/#

Uhmm this Republican apparently has drawn a line in the sand! 

He's a lame duck bootlicker.
When it comes down to it he doesn’t have the balls to do the right thing

Yeah no doubt for a minute I thought some republicans had grown a pair but as we’ve all seen they end up bending the knee! 

maybe if they all decided to not seek another term they might speak up. but they are so terrified trump is going to do a mean tweet about them. pathetic. no courage at all. 

I suspect there is quite a bit more than that going on behind the scenes, to keep them quiet, like some really fucked up, sinister, corrupt shit, and a lot to do with what happens after Trump is gone.