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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 42,214
    Poncier said:
    Poncier said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Poncier said:
    Wobbie said:
    Poncier said:
    Wobbie said:
    uh, no.


    Who would be your 4?
    Roger, Troy, Tony and Dak!

    seriously, tho, wroggers does not belong. Elway, Marino, Unitas, Young…?
    As I suspected you leave out Brady.

    7 Super Bowls. NFL career leader in pass yards (by nearly 9,000), pass TD's, regular season wins (by 65) post season wins (more than double current 2md place Mahomes).

    And you think Aikman is better and he's not in the top 4 all time..

    https://youtu.be/zrWoG8IckyE?si=D2AzVRUoa2eao0Yj


    I'd make it five heads and include Danny White. 
    You just made me think of a kicker...

    Should there be 5 heads?

    Is Tucker better than Vinateri??
    Vinatieri had perhaps the most clutch/greatest kick in NFL history in the snow game and then 2 game winning Super Bowl kicks. Tucker may have had more range, but his happy endings weren't the same as Vinatieri's.

    https://youtu.be/OnrrIt23h2s?si=xx-wZNIVaKxfKIzP
    I liked him too for that very game, lol.

    He has 4 rings to go with his long career.

    Wasn't it Peyton Manning that called him a "idiot kicker" lol?
    The idiot kicker was Vanderjagt
    OMG thats right! TY!!! Hahahahahaahah.
  • cutz
    cutz Posts: 12,375
    Poncier said:
    Poncier said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Poncier said:
    Wobbie said:
    Poncier said:
    Wobbie said:
    uh, no.


    Who would be your 4?
    Roger, Troy, Tony and Dak!

    seriously, tho, wroggers does not belong. Elway, Marino, Unitas, Young…?
    As I suspected you leave out Brady.

    7 Super Bowls. NFL career leader in pass yards (by nearly 9,000), pass TD's, regular season wins (by 65) post season wins (more than double current 2md place Mahomes).

    And you think Aikman is better and he's not in the top 4 all time..

    https://youtu.be/zrWoG8IckyE?si=D2AzVRUoa2eao0Yj


    I'd make it five heads and include Danny White. 
    You just made me think of a kicker...

    Should there be 5 heads?

    Is Tucker better than Vinateri??
    Vinatieri had perhaps the most clutch/greatest kick in NFL history in the snow game and then 2 game winning Super Bowl kicks. Tucker may have had more range, but his happy endings weren't the same as Vinatieri's.

    https://youtu.be/OnrrIt23h2s?si=xx-wZNIVaKxfKIzP
    I liked him too for that very game, lol.

    He has 4 rings to go with his long career.

    Wasn't it Peyton Manning that called him a "idiot kicker" lol?
    The idiot kicker was Vanderjagt
    OMG thats right! TY!!! Hahahahahaahah.
    Didn't Manning also say something along the lines that Vanderjat was liquored up too?
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 42,214
    cutz said:
    Poncier said:
    Poncier said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Poncier said:
    Wobbie said:
    Poncier said:
    Wobbie said:
    uh, no.


    Who would be your 4?
    Roger, Troy, Tony and Dak!

    seriously, tho, wroggers does not belong. Elway, Marino, Unitas, Young…?
    As I suspected you leave out Brady.

    7 Super Bowls. NFL career leader in pass yards (by nearly 9,000), pass TD's, regular season wins (by 65) post season wins (more than double current 2md place Mahomes).

    And you think Aikman is better and he's not in the top 4 all time..

    https://youtu.be/zrWoG8IckyE?si=D2AzVRUoa2eao0Yj


    I'd make it five heads and include Danny White. 
    You just made me think of a kicker...

    Should there be 5 heads?

    Is Tucker better than Vinateri??
    Vinatieri had perhaps the most clutch/greatest kick in NFL history in the snow game and then 2 game winning Super Bowl kicks. Tucker may have had more range, but his happy endings weren't the same as Vinatieri's.

    https://youtu.be/OnrrIt23h2s?si=xx-wZNIVaKxfKIzP
    I liked him too for that very game, lol.

    He has 4 rings to go with his long career.

    Wasn't it Peyton Manning that called him a "idiot kicker" lol?
    The idiot kicker was Vanderjagt
    OMG thats right! TY!!! Hahahahahaahah.
    Didn't Manning also say something along the lines that Vanderjat was liquored up too?
    Yes he did!.

    Here ya go lol

    https://www.tiktok.com/@cbssports/video/7195747233596345646?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc
  • JeBurkhardt
    JeBurkhardt Posts: 5,389
    Joe Montana
    Lawrence Taylor
    Barry Sanders
    Jerry Rice
  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,911
    edited December 17
    Best I have seen legit at each position:

    Payton Manning
    Bruce Smith
    Barry Sanders
    Randy Moss 


    but in reality, it probably would be:
    Brady
    Bruce
    Brown
    Rice
    Post edited by MayDay10 on
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 42,214
    MayDay10 said:
    Best I have seen legit at each position:

    Payton Manning
    Bruce Smith
    Barry Sanders
    Randy Moss 


    but in reality, it probably would be:
    Brady
    Bruce
    Brown
    Rice
    You aren't old enough to see LT huh?  Dude was a bad man.

    Peyton and Moss were two of my favorites.  Justin Jefferson reminds me of Moss now.
  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,911
    I saw LT.  He seems like more of a linebacker than a pure DL.  Also, his dominance was shorter, with Bruce had a really long peak.  

    LT seemed like more of a pure violent intense player, while Bruce was super athletic and would/could take over a game.  

    I could see either one.  I would take both over Reggie White.
  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,611
    Fans of any team but the Bills know Reggie White was better than Bruce Smith. Bruce is still wondering what happened when he tried to sack Randall in the end zone.
    Spectrum 10/27/09; New Orleans JazzFest 5/1/10; Made in America 9/2/12; Phila, PA 10/21/13; Phila,  PA 10/22/13; Baltimore Arena 10/27/13; Phila, PA 4/28/16; Phila, PA 4/29/16; Fenway Park 8/7/16; Fenway Park 9/2/18; Asbury Park 9/18/21; Camden 9/14/22; Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24; Phila, PA 9/7/24; Phila, PA 9/9/24; Baltimore Arena 9/12/24; Pittsburgh 5/16/25; Pittsburgh 5/18/25

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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 18,179
    Poncier said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Poncier said:
    Wobbie said:
    Poncier said:
    Wobbie said:
    uh, no.


    Who would be your 4?
    Roger, Troy, Tony and Dak!

    seriously, tho, wroggers does not belong. Elway, Marino, Unitas, Young…?
    As I suspected you leave out Brady.

    7 Super Bowls. NFL career leader in pass yards (by nearly 9,000), pass TD's, regular season wins (by 65) post season wins (more than double current 2md place Mahomes).

    And you think Aikman is better and he's not in the top 4 all time..

    https://youtu.be/zrWoG8IckyE?si=D2AzVRUoa2eao0Yj


    I'd make it five heads and include Danny White. 
    You just made me think of a kicker...

    Should there be 5 heads?

    Is Tucker better than Vinateri??
    Vinatieri had perhaps the most clutch/greatest kick in NFL history in the snow game and then 2 game winning Super Bowl kicks. Tucker may have had more range, but his happy endings weren't the same as Vinatieri's.

    I'm disappointed in the lot of you. This has been up for over 24 hours and none of you picked up on it.



    This weekend we rock Portland
  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,810
    haha! quin ewers to take over for tua, not “pro day phenom” zach wilson.

    tua’s contract is right up there with deshaun’s but at least tua isn’t a garbage person.
    If I had known then what I know now...

    Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
    Missoula 24
  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,611
    Poncier said:
    Poncier said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Poncier said:
    Wobbie said:
    Poncier said:
    Wobbie said:
    uh, no.


    Who would be your 4?
    Roger, Troy, Tony and Dak!

    seriously, tho, wroggers does not belong. Elway, Marino, Unitas, Young…?
    As I suspected you leave out Brady.

    7 Super Bowls. NFL career leader in pass yards (by nearly 9,000), pass TD's, regular season wins (by 65) post season wins (more than double current 2md place Mahomes).

    And you think Aikman is better and he's not in the top 4 all time..

    https://youtu.be/zrWoG8IckyE?si=D2AzVRUoa2eao0Yj


    I'd make it five heads and include Danny White. 
    You just made me think of a kicker...

    Should there be 5 heads?

    Is Tucker better than Vinateri??
    Vinatieri had perhaps the most clutch/greatest kick in NFL history in the snow game and then 2 game winning Super Bowl kicks. Tucker may have had more range, but his happy endings weren't the same as Vinatieri's.

    I'm disappointed in the lot of you. This has been up for over 24 hours and none of you picked up on it.



    I definitely picked up on it. 6 days until Festivus!

    I was at a blackjack table last week with 4 Asian women and the dealer was an Asian man and kept saying "ooh, here comes a happy ending!" and everyone was laughing.
    Spectrum 10/27/09; New Orleans JazzFest 5/1/10; Made in America 9/2/12; Phila, PA 10/21/13; Phila,  PA 10/22/13; Baltimore Arena 10/27/13; Phila, PA 4/28/16; Phila, PA 4/29/16; Fenway Park 8/7/16; Fenway Park 9/2/18; Asbury Park 9/18/21; Camden 9/14/22; Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24; Phila, PA 9/7/24; Phila, PA 9/9/24; Baltimore Arena 9/12/24; Pittsburgh 5/16/25; Pittsburgh 5/18/25

    Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 13,129
    Poncier said:
    Poncier said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Poncier said:
    Wobbie said:
    Poncier said:
    Wobbie said:
    uh, no.


    Who would be your 4?
    Roger, Troy, Tony and Dak!

    seriously, tho, wroggers does not belong. Elway, Marino, Unitas, Young…?
    As I suspected you leave out Brady.

    7 Super Bowls. NFL career leader in pass yards (by nearly 9,000), pass TD's, regular season wins (by 65) post season wins (more than double current 2md place Mahomes).

    And you think Aikman is better and he's not in the top 4 all time..

    https://youtu.be/zrWoG8IckyE?si=D2AzVRUoa2eao0Yj


    I'd make it five heads and include Danny White. 
    You just made me think of a kicker...

    Should there be 5 heads?

    Is Tucker better than Vinateri??
    Vinatieri had perhaps the most clutch/greatest kick in NFL history in the snow game and then 2 game winning Super Bowl kicks. Tucker may have had more range, but his happy endings weren't the same as Vinatieri's.

    I'm disappointed in the lot of you. This has been up for over 24 hours and none of you picked up on it.



    I definitely picked up on it. 6 days until Festivus!

    I was at a blackjack table last week with 4 Asian women and the dealer was an Asian man and kept saying "ooh, here comes a happy ending!" and everyone was laughing.
    how many times did they stay on 16?  seems Asian players tend to do that, at least at tables i'm at.

    where did you play?
  • cutz
    cutz Posts: 12,375
    cutz said:
    Poncier said:
    Poncier said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Poncier said:
    Wobbie said:
    Poncier said:
    Wobbie said:
    uh, no.


    Who would be your 4?
    Roger, Troy, Tony and Dak!

    seriously, tho, wroggers does not belong. Elway, Marino, Unitas, Young…?
    As I suspected you leave out Brady.

    7 Super Bowls. NFL career leader in pass yards (by nearly 9,000), pass TD's, regular season wins (by 65) post season wins (more than double current 2md place Mahomes).

    And you think Aikman is better and he's not in the top 4 all time..

    https://youtu.be/zrWoG8IckyE?si=D2AzVRUoa2eao0Yj


    I'd make it five heads and include Danny White. 
    You just made me think of a kicker...

    Should there be 5 heads?

    Is Tucker better than Vinateri??
    Vinatieri had perhaps the most clutch/greatest kick in NFL history in the snow game and then 2 game winning Super Bowl kicks. Tucker may have had more range, but his happy endings weren't the same as Vinatieri's.

    https://youtu.be/OnrrIt23h2s?si=xx-wZNIVaKxfKIzP
    I liked him too for that very game, lol.

    He has 4 rings to go with his long career.

    Wasn't it Peyton Manning that called him a "idiot kicker" lol?
    The idiot kicker was Vanderjagt
    OMG thats right! TY!!! Hahahahahaahah.
    Didn't Manning also say something along the lines that Vanderjat was liquored up too?
    Yes he did!.

    Here ya go lol

    https://www.tiktok.com/@cbssports/video/7195747233596345646?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc
    HAHAHA (I thought he did)
  • cutz
    cutz Posts: 12,375
    MayDay10 said:
    Best I have seen legit at each position:

    Payton Manning
    Bruce Smith
    Barry Sanders
    Randy Moss 


    but in reality, it probably would be:
    Brady
    Bruce
    Brown
    Rice
    Best I saw in person

    Joe Montana
    Jerry Rice
    Walter Payton
    Reggie White
  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,611
    pjhawks said:
    Poncier said:
    Poncier said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Poncier said:
    Wobbie said:
    Poncier said:
    Wobbie said:
    uh, no.


    Who would be your 4?
    Roger, Troy, Tony and Dak!

    seriously, tho, wroggers does not belong. Elway, Marino, Unitas, Young…?
    As I suspected you leave out Brady.

    7 Super Bowls. NFL career leader in pass yards (by nearly 9,000), pass TD's, regular season wins (by 65) post season wins (more than double current 2md place Mahomes).

    And you think Aikman is better and he's not in the top 4 all time..

    https://youtu.be/zrWoG8IckyE?si=D2AzVRUoa2eao0Yj


    I'd make it five heads and include Danny White. 
    You just made me think of a kicker...

    Should there be 5 heads?

    Is Tucker better than Vinateri??
    Vinatieri had perhaps the most clutch/greatest kick in NFL history in the snow game and then 2 game winning Super Bowl kicks. Tucker may have had more range, but his happy endings weren't the same as Vinatieri's.

    I'm disappointed in the lot of you. This has been up for over 24 hours and none of you picked up on it.



    I definitely picked up on it. 6 days until Festivus!

    I was at a blackjack table last week with 4 Asian women and the dealer was an Asian man and kept saying "ooh, here comes a happy ending!" and everyone was laughing.
    how many times did they stay on 16?  seems Asian players tend to do that, at least at tables i'm at.

    where did you play?
    It was at Live. IDK, maybe some staying on 16, but they were hitting those side bets really hard, and they kept yelling at me for not playing them. A couple times they bet the side bet on my bet. The one hand the lady gets blackjack but still lost money on the hand because she lost the stupid side bets, which she bet more on than the original hand.

    I kept telling them they were making donations to the casino oligarchs, and they were constantly getting more chips. I played with my original stack and broke dead even for an hour.

    Technically it was Spanish 21, not Black Jack. Even worse to stay on 16. You hit to 21 you automatically win and you're less likely to bust without the 10's in the deck.
    Spectrum 10/27/09; New Orleans JazzFest 5/1/10; Made in America 9/2/12; Phila, PA 10/21/13; Phila,  PA 10/22/13; Baltimore Arena 10/27/13; Phila, PA 4/28/16; Phila, PA 4/29/16; Fenway Park 8/7/16; Fenway Park 9/2/18; Asbury Park 9/18/21; Camden 9/14/22; Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24; Phila, PA 9/7/24; Phila, PA 9/9/24; Baltimore Arena 9/12/24; Pittsburgh 5/16/25; Pittsburgh 5/18/25

    Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 13,129
    pjhawks said:
    Poncier said:
    Poncier said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Poncier said:
    Wobbie said:
    Poncier said:
    Wobbie said:
    uh, no.


    Who would be your 4?
    Roger, Troy, Tony and Dak!

    seriously, tho, wroggers does not belong. Elway, Marino, Unitas, Young…?
    As I suspected you leave out Brady.

    7 Super Bowls. NFL career leader in pass yards (by nearly 9,000), pass TD's, regular season wins (by 65) post season wins (more than double current 2md place Mahomes).

    And you think Aikman is better and he's not in the top 4 all time..

    https://youtu.be/zrWoG8IckyE?si=D2AzVRUoa2eao0Yj


    I'd make it five heads and include Danny White. 
    You just made me think of a kicker...

    Should there be 5 heads?

    Is Tucker better than Vinateri??
    Vinatieri had perhaps the most clutch/greatest kick in NFL history in the snow game and then 2 game winning Super Bowl kicks. Tucker may have had more range, but his happy endings weren't the same as Vinatieri's.

    I'm disappointed in the lot of you. This has been up for over 24 hours and none of you picked up on it.



    I definitely picked up on it. 6 days until Festivus!

    I was at a blackjack table last week with 4 Asian women and the dealer was an Asian man and kept saying "ooh, here comes a happy ending!" and everyone was laughing.
    how many times did they stay on 16?  seems Asian players tend to do that, at least at tables i'm at.

    where did you play?
    It was at Live. IDK, maybe some staying on 16, but they were hitting those side bets really hard, and they kept yelling at me for not playing them. A couple times they bet the side bet on my bet. The one hand the lady gets blackjack but still lost money on the hand because she lost the stupid side bets, which she bet more on than the original hand.

    I kept telling them they were making donations to the casino oligarchs, and they were constantly getting more chips. I played with my original stack and broke dead even for an hour.

    Technically it was Spanish 21, not Black Jack. Even worse to stay on 16. You hit to 21 you automatically win and you're less likely to bust without the 10's in the deck.
    yea those side bets are really bad bets.  people are trying for the grand slam on them but they don't realize they are being nickeled to death with them.  I go to AC a few times a year and I just laugh when people tell me to play them.  

    and agree that only people in Buffalo think Bruce Smith was better than Reggie White.
  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,810
    there’s something about philly guys and gambling…
    If I had known then what I know now...

    Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
    Missoula 24
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 13,129
    Wobbie said:
    there’s something about philly guys and gambling…
    Haha yea I enjoy it.  Getting on a good blackjack table with fun people is a great time. Many trips to Vegas in 20s and 30s.  Do mostly Atlantic City a few times a year now.  Have done well betting NFL this year.  Just bet games, none of this parlay crap or player props.