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  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,804
    even poncier can admit troy or tony or dandy don > TB12 “in the booth.”
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 18,178
    Wobbie said:
    even poncier can admit troy or tony or dandy don > TB12 “in the booth.”
    Troy for sure. I like him in the booth.  Romo started out great but has become almost a caricature in recent years, Merdith? Kind of hard to compare someone from so long ago.

    And Brady has definitely improved. But Greg Olson is Fox' best analyst.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 32,020
    Okay, here's a hot take. Australian LT Jordan Mailata said Thanksgiving food is shit. He's right!
    • The turkey is always dry.
    • Sweet potatoes with marshmallows are cloying. This is dinner, not dessert.
    • Green bean casserole is a national disgrace.
    • Cranberry sauce is disgusting.
    • Most people probably make their mashed potatoes from a box.
    • Also the stuffing.
    • The mac & cheese is made from fake plastic cheez - likely velvetta.
    • Apple pie: there's like 100 countries that make apple pie. We aren't special.
    Of course, Thanksgiving dinner at my house is awesome. The turkey is juicy and smoky. There are homemade sweet potato gnocchi with brown butter & sage. The mac & cheese is made with aged Vermont cheddar. There are perfect roasted brussels sprouts. The stuffing is homemade with Italian bread & sausage. Jordan needs to come to my house next year, assuming he's not in Dallas. (I guess they have all the Eagles-Cowboys games on primetime and that's why we never play there on Thanksgiving.)
    You had me at "national disgrace"
    I actually enjoy TG dinner but not enough to repeat it a month later 
    Christmas feast is annual wildcard.


    On NFC AFC this year, I think the Rams have the goods.  Anything can happen but for balance I would go with them.
    From AFC I would go with Shitdoor Sanders and the Browns but unfortunately they aren't making it 
    Josh Allen is fucking awesome and I hope Buff or the new Josh Allen/The Drake make it.
    Fuck Chargers and Sean Payton.
    Demeco Ryans is awesome but I dont trust their offense.

    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 32,020
    Would love to say Niners but that defense is compromised and I think they will do well to make the playoffs  
    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 18,178
    Nobody even mentioning Ronnie Sunshine Bass who is quietly starting to fulfill his promise now that he finally has a decent offensive mind as his coach.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 42,205
    Tom Brady
    Lawrence Taylor
    Jim Brown
    Jerry Rice
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 42,205
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    OK we watch games at my cousins house.  We were pumped to see the Bills/Pats game.

    Well guess what games they have on at 1 in our area?  Jets and Giants.  who dafuq wants to watch that mess?

    She sees that Fubo is offering that game.  She signs up and we go to look for it and its not there...

    We have zero interest in the other games being offered.

    I look up how to watch that game and its offered on Sunday Ticket through Youtube TV.  Rest of the year is $60.  Why not.

    Get the League Pass and simulcast from my phone.  We got the game.  It was a good game too.

    I had this from DTV wayyy back in the day and loved it.  Lets see if it's still any good.

    Broncos look great too.  I see them and the Bills in the AFC championship game.  I also dont see any NFC team putting up a fight in the SB.

    Thouhgts?
    The Broncos were home underdogs to the Packers yesterday.  The NFC team will be at least a 3 point favorite in the Super Bowl.  As of now I think it's gonna be the Rams vs. the Bills.

    at least now the stupid national pundits can stop slobbering over a Cowboys team that has a losing record like they can make a run.  
    Dallas, really?  Have they not been watching that team for the last 10 years?  Same result every year.

    You really see the NFC as the better conference?  I don't see it.
    Better by a decent margin. Detroit would be first or second in the AFC and might not make the payoffs in the NFC.   Denver and New England have played two of the easiest schedules in the NFL.  Good teams with very young QBs so hard to trust them to win a Super Bowl in year 2. I think the only AFC team with a chance is Buffalo and that is only because of Allen.  I think the winner is coming from the Rams, Eagles or Bills and leaning very heavily towards the Rams. 
    I watched Detroit this year and they do not seem to be as good as they were last year...

    Eagles either.  Are we watching the same games?
    well as an Eagles fan I watch every second of their games.  Their defense is as good as there is in the league and will keep them in every game they play in the playoffs.  The offense has had it struggles but if they win next week and wrap up the division they can rest one or two of their offensive linemen who have been banged up all year and Lane Johnson who is the best right tackle in football is coming back before or for the playoffs.  They will be a better offense in the coming weeks most likely and still are loaded with talent on that side of the ball. I don't think the Eagles are getting there again but with their talent it wouldn't surprise me at all. They already beat the Rams and Packers so wouldn't be crazy to think they can again.  No one in the NFC wants to play the Eagles in the playoffs.
    As much as I love Hurts he just has these games where he looks lost. That's why I don't trust them.

    Broncos beat the Packers and your eagles.  They also beat the Chiefs when they still looked like the chiefs.

    If it goes accordingly Broncos should be able to rest their starters the last two games of the season and have homefield throughout the playoffs.
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 13,124
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    OK we watch games at my cousins house.  We were pumped to see the Bills/Pats game.

    Well guess what games they have on at 1 in our area?  Jets and Giants.  who dafuq wants to watch that mess?

    She sees that Fubo is offering that game.  She signs up and we go to look for it and its not there...

    We have zero interest in the other games being offered.

    I look up how to watch that game and its offered on Sunday Ticket through Youtube TV.  Rest of the year is $60.  Why not.

    Get the League Pass and simulcast from my phone.  We got the game.  It was a good game too.

    I had this from DTV wayyy back in the day and loved it.  Lets see if it's still any good.

    Broncos look great too.  I see them and the Bills in the AFC championship game.  I also dont see any NFC team putting up a fight in the SB.

    Thouhgts?
    The Broncos were home underdogs to the Packers yesterday.  The NFC team will be at least a 3 point favorite in the Super Bowl.  As of now I think it's gonna be the Rams vs. the Bills.

    at least now the stupid national pundits can stop slobbering over a Cowboys team that has a losing record like they can make a run.  
    Dallas, really?  Have they not been watching that team for the last 10 years?  Same result every year.

    You really see the NFC as the better conference?  I don't see it.
    Better by a decent margin. Detroit would be first or second in the AFC and might not make the payoffs in the NFC.   Denver and New England have played two of the easiest schedules in the NFL.  Good teams with very young QBs so hard to trust them to win a Super Bowl in year 2. I think the only AFC team with a chance is Buffalo and that is only because of Allen.  I think the winner is coming from the Rams, Eagles or Bills and leaning very heavily towards the Rams. 
    I watched Detroit this year and they do not seem to be as good as they were last year...

    Eagles either.  Are we watching the same games?
    well as an Eagles fan I watch every second of their games.  Their defense is as good as there is in the league and will keep them in every game they play in the playoffs.  The offense has had it struggles but if they win next week and wrap up the division they can rest one or two of their offensive linemen who have been banged up all year and Lane Johnson who is the best right tackle in football is coming back before or for the playoffs.  They will be a better offense in the coming weeks most likely and still are loaded with talent on that side of the ball. I don't think the Eagles are getting there again but with their talent it wouldn't surprise me at all. They already beat the Rams and Packers so wouldn't be crazy to think they can again.  No one in the NFC wants to play the Eagles in the playoffs.
    As much as I love Hurts he just has these games where he looks lost. That's why I don't trust them.

    Broncos beat the Packers and your eagles.  They also beat the Chiefs when they still looked like the chiefs.

    If it goes accordingly Broncos should be able to rest their starters the last two games of the season and have homefield throughout the playoffs.
    Hurts has made two Super Bowls, one Super Bowl MVP and would have won the MVP in the other if they had won. But you don't trust him?  The disrespect of Hurts' accomplishments by the media and some fans is kind of crazy.
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 18,178
    Tom Brady
    Lawrence Taylor
    Jim Brown
    Jerry Rice
    Pretty much this. Though I might think about Barry Sanders in the RB slot.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 42,205
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    OK we watch games at my cousins house.  We were pumped to see the Bills/Pats game.

    Well guess what games they have on at 1 in our area?  Jets and Giants.  who dafuq wants to watch that mess?

    She sees that Fubo is offering that game.  She signs up and we go to look for it and its not there...

    We have zero interest in the other games being offered.

    I look up how to watch that game and its offered on Sunday Ticket through Youtube TV.  Rest of the year is $60.  Why not.

    Get the League Pass and simulcast from my phone.  We got the game.  It was a good game too.

    I had this from DTV wayyy back in the day and loved it.  Lets see if it's still any good.

    Broncos look great too.  I see them and the Bills in the AFC championship game.  I also dont see any NFC team putting up a fight in the SB.

    Thouhgts?
    The Broncos were home underdogs to the Packers yesterday.  The NFC team will be at least a 3 point favorite in the Super Bowl.  As of now I think it's gonna be the Rams vs. the Bills.

    at least now the stupid national pundits can stop slobbering over a Cowboys team that has a losing record like they can make a run.  
    Dallas, really?  Have they not been watching that team for the last 10 years?  Same result every year.

    You really see the NFC as the better conference?  I don't see it.
    Better by a decent margin. Detroit would be first or second in the AFC and might not make the payoffs in the NFC.   Denver and New England have played two of the easiest schedules in the NFL.  Good teams with very young QBs so hard to trust them to win a Super Bowl in year 2. I think the only AFC team with a chance is Buffalo and that is only because of Allen.  I think the winner is coming from the Rams, Eagles or Bills and leaning very heavily towards the Rams. 
    I watched Detroit this year and they do not seem to be as good as they were last year...

    Eagles either.  Are we watching the same games?
    well as an Eagles fan I watch every second of their games.  Their defense is as good as there is in the league and will keep them in every game they play in the playoffs.  The offense has had it struggles but if they win next week and wrap up the division they can rest one or two of their offensive linemen who have been banged up all year and Lane Johnson who is the best right tackle in football is coming back before or for the playoffs.  They will be a better offense in the coming weeks most likely and still are loaded with talent on that side of the ball. I don't think the Eagles are getting there again but with their talent it wouldn't surprise me at all. They already beat the Rams and Packers so wouldn't be crazy to think they can again.  No one in the NFC wants to play the Eagles in the playoffs.
    As much as I love Hurts he just has these games where he looks lost. That's why I don't trust them.

    Broncos beat the Packers and your eagles.  They also beat the Chiefs when they still looked like the chiefs.

    If it goes accordingly Broncos should be able to rest their starters the last two games of the season and have homefield throughout the playoffs.
    Hurts has made two Super Bowls, one Super Bowl MVP and would have won the MVP in the other if they had won. But you don't trust him?  The disrespect of Hurts' accomplishments by the media and some fans is kind of crazy.
    When he looks lost like that I get why people question him.  I personally like him.
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 42,205
    Poncier said:
    Tom Brady
    Lawrence Taylor
    Jim Brown
    Jerry Rice
    Pretty much this. Though I might think about Barry Sanders in the RB slot.
    Why I went with Jim Brown is because of what Sanders would say. "Jim Brown is the best running back ever."

    Sanders is the best I ever saw with my own eyes though.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 31,077
    Poncier said:
    Wobbie said:
    Poncier said:
    Wobbie said:
    uh, no.


    Who would be your 4?
    Roger, Troy, Tony and Dak!

    seriously, tho, wroggers does not belong. Elway, Marino, Unitas, Young…?
    As I suspected you leave out Brady.

    7 Super Bowls. NFL career leader in pass yards (by nearly 9,000), pass TD's, regular season wins (by 65) post season wins (more than double current 2md place Mahomes).

    And you think Aikman is better and he's not in the top 4 all time..

    https://youtu.be/zrWoG8IckyE?si=D2AzVRUoa2eao0Yj


    I'd make it five heads and include Danny White. 
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 31,077
    You guys, Otto Graham and Bobby Layne brought multiple championships to, wait for it, the Cleveland Browns and Detroit Lions.
    Goddamm right.  
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 31,077
    edited 1:57PM
    Lets make the Mt Rushmore more interesting.

    1 QB
    1 DL or S
    1 RB
    1 WR or TE
    Otto Graham
    Myles Garrett
    Jim Brown
    Ozzie Newsome

    Man, this was an easy one.  

    But really, although made in jest, can you really argue with any of them?  
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 42,205
    mrussel1 said:
    Poncier said:
    Wobbie said:
    Poncier said:
    Wobbie said:
    uh, no.


    Who would be your 4?
    Roger, Troy, Tony and Dak!

    seriously, tho, wroggers does not belong. Elway, Marino, Unitas, Young…?
    As I suspected you leave out Brady.

    7 Super Bowls. NFL career leader in pass yards (by nearly 9,000), pass TD's, regular season wins (by 65) post season wins (more than double current 2md place Mahomes).

    And you think Aikman is better and he's not in the top 4 all time..

    https://youtu.be/zrWoG8IckyE?si=D2AzVRUoa2eao0Yj


    I'd make it five heads and include Danny White. 
    You just made me think of a kicker...

    Should there be 5 heads?

    Is Tucker better than Vinateri??
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 18,178
    mrussel1 said:
    Poncier said:
    Wobbie said:
    Poncier said:
    Wobbie said:
    uh, no.


    Who would be your 4?
    Roger, Troy, Tony and Dak!

    seriously, tho, wroggers does not belong. Elway, Marino, Unitas, Young…?
    As I suspected you leave out Brady.

    7 Super Bowls. NFL career leader in pass yards (by nearly 9,000), pass TD's, regular season wins (by 65) post season wins (more than double current 2md place Mahomes).

    And you think Aikman is better and he's not in the top 4 all time..

    https://youtu.be/zrWoG8IckyE?si=D2AzVRUoa2eao0Yj


    I'd make it five heads and include Danny White. 
    You just made me think of a kicker...

    Should there be 5 heads?

    Is Tucker better than Vinateri??
    Vinatieri had perhaps the most clutch/greatest kick in NFL history in the snow game and then 2 game winning Super Bowl kicks. Tucker may have had more range, but his happy endings weren't the same as Vinatieri's.

    https://youtu.be/OnrrIt23h2s?si=xx-wZNIVaKxfKIzP
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 31,077
    mrussel1 said:
    Poncier said:
    Wobbie said:
    Poncier said:
    Wobbie said:
    uh, no.


    Who would be your 4?
    Roger, Troy, Tony and Dak!

    seriously, tho, wroggers does not belong. Elway, Marino, Unitas, Young…?
    As I suspected you leave out Brady.

    7 Super Bowls. NFL career leader in pass yards (by nearly 9,000), pass TD's, regular season wins (by 65) post season wins (more than double current 2md place Mahomes).

    And you think Aikman is better and he's not in the top 4 all time..

    https://youtu.be/zrWoG8IckyE?si=D2AzVRUoa2eao0Yj


    I'd make it five heads and include Danny White. 
    You just made me think of a kicker...

    Should there be 5 heads?

    Is Tucker better than Vinateri??
    Ray Guy, Jan Stenerud... 

    Until you're in the HOF, it's Jan.  
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 42,205
    Poncier said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Poncier said:
    Wobbie said:
    Poncier said:
    Wobbie said:
    uh, no.


    Who would be your 4?
    Roger, Troy, Tony and Dak!

    seriously, tho, wroggers does not belong. Elway, Marino, Unitas, Young…?
    As I suspected you leave out Brady.

    7 Super Bowls. NFL career leader in pass yards (by nearly 9,000), pass TD's, regular season wins (by 65) post season wins (more than double current 2md place Mahomes).

    And you think Aikman is better and he's not in the top 4 all time..

    https://youtu.be/zrWoG8IckyE?si=D2AzVRUoa2eao0Yj


    I'd make it five heads and include Danny White. 
    You just made me think of a kicker...

    Should there be 5 heads?

    Is Tucker better than Vinateri??
    Vinatieri had perhaps the most clutch/greatest kick in NFL history in the snow game and then 2 game winning Super Bowl kicks. Tucker may have had more range, but his happy endings weren't the same as Vinatieri's.

    https://youtu.be/OnrrIt23h2s?si=xx-wZNIVaKxfKIzP
    I liked him too for that very game, lol.

    He has 4 rings to go with his long career.

    Wasn't it Peyton Manning that called him a "idiot kicker" lol?
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 18,178
    Poncier said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Poncier said:
    Wobbie said:
    Poncier said:
    Wobbie said:
    uh, no.


    Who would be your 4?
    Roger, Troy, Tony and Dak!

    seriously, tho, wroggers does not belong. Elway, Marino, Unitas, Young…?
    As I suspected you leave out Brady.

    7 Super Bowls. NFL career leader in pass yards (by nearly 9,000), pass TD's, regular season wins (by 65) post season wins (more than double current 2md place Mahomes).

    And you think Aikman is better and he's not in the top 4 all time..

    https://youtu.be/zrWoG8IckyE?si=D2AzVRUoa2eao0Yj


    I'd make it five heads and include Danny White. 
    You just made me think of a kicker...

    Should there be 5 heads?

    Is Tucker better than Vinateri??
    Vinatieri had perhaps the most clutch/greatest kick in NFL history in the snow game and then 2 game winning Super Bowl kicks. Tucker may have had more range, but his happy endings weren't the same as Vinatieri's.

    https://youtu.be/OnrrIt23h2s?si=xx-wZNIVaKxfKIzP
    I liked him too for that very game, lol.

    He has 4 rings to go with his long career.

    Wasn't it Peyton Manning that called him a "idiot kicker" lol?
    The idiot kicker was Vanderjagt
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • SPEEDY MCCREADY
    SPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 27,207
    edited 3:23PM
    Jim Brown
    Barry Sanders
    Emmitt Smith

    Nope

    I'm gonna take Walter Payton.
    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....