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Oh, and Israel is still committing genocide.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Must be all Hamas supporters.
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In my “imperfect” use of AI, I showed you that the concept of Hamas being the majority impediment to aid getting to Gazans, is not proven whatsoever, and reason shows that the odds are much more in favour of other parties such as the Israeli government being a much larger factor towards the mass starvation in Gaza.Lerxst1992 said:mickeyrat said:gimmesometruth27 said:
but this does not excuse starving the palestinians.Lerxst1992 said:Targeting civilians and civilian objects: Hamas and its military wing, the al-Qassam Brigades, have been accused of deliberately killing and injuring civilians in Israel, including women, children, and the elderly. They have also launched indiscriminate rocket attacks on civilian population centers in Israel.Agreed as the top doesn’t excuse Hamas for getting them into this mess, not blocking 99%, edit 90% , of UN food shipments. Why oh why is that last fact no ever in the liberal media?
..According to data from the UN Office for Project Services (UNOPS), a significant portion of aid entering Gaza has been stolen or "intercepted" before reaching its final destination. One report, citing UNOPS data from May 19 onward, states that 85% of aid entering Gaza by truck has been stolen, either "peacefully by hungry people or forcefully by armed actors."Reports from various sources indicate that the theft of humanitarian aid is a major problem in Gaza, with different groups being blamed for the theft
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Adding to my last post - common sense suggests if you want to minimize riots for aid, you have to provide more aid than “just barely enough”. Scarcity will perpetuate this, abundance will help resolve it.'05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2
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add frequency to this as well ..benjs said:Adding to my last post - common sense suggests if you want to minimize riots for aid, you have to provide more aid than “just barely enough”. Scarcity will perpetuate this, abundance will help resolve it.
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also not having bureaucratic hold ups and red tape on aid.mickeyrat said:
add frequency to this as well ..benjs said:Adding to my last post - common sense suggests if you want to minimize riots for aid, you have to provide more aid than “just barely enough”. Scarcity will perpetuate this, abundance will help resolve it."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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Hey douche bag? Israel has already reached that milestone. Now what? And so much for the Nakba being a myth, eh? And no war crimes being committed either, I suppose? This is the “centrists” view? Wow!
Ex-Israeli intelligence chief said 50 Palestinians must die for every 7 October victim
‘It does not matter if they are children,’ said Aharon Haliva in recorded comments calling the death toll ‘necessary’
The Israeli general who headed military intelligence on 7 October 2023 has said 50 Palestinians must die for every person killed that day and “it does not matter now if they are children”, in recordings broadcast by Israel’s Channel 12 TV station.
Aharon Haliva said the toll in Gaza, which he put at more than 50,000 dead, was “necessary” as a “message to future generations” of Palestinians.
“They need a Nakba every now and then to feel the price,” he added, referring to the mass expulsion of more than 700,000 Palestinians from their homes and lands after the creation of Israel in 1948. Nakba means catastrophe in Arabic.
Much of Israel’s leadership and media has used genocidal rhetoricabout Palestinians since Hamas’s 7 October attacks, including describingthem as “human animals”, sayingthere are “no innocents” in Gaza and calling for Gaza’s total destructionand its ethnic cleansing.
However, Haliva’s description of a campaign of mass killing including children was an unusually direct description of collective punishment of civilians, which is illegal under international law.
Haliva, who stepped down from his position in April 2024, also appeared to endorse the casualty figures compiled by health authorities in Gaza, which Israeli officials regularly attack as propaganda. They have proved reliable in past conflicts.
Channel 12 said the undated conversations were recorded “in recent months”. The Gaza health ministry’s toll for those killed by Israeli attacks passed 50,000 in March and has recently climbed above 60,000.
Israel’s most recent published dataon the war put the number of militants killed at about 20,000, so Haliva would have been aware that even by his country’s own count most of the Palestinians killed were civilians.
“The fact that there are already 50,000 dead in Gaza is necessary and required for future generations,” he said in the broadcast comments. “For everything that happened on October 7th, for every person on October 7, 50 Palestinians must die. It doesn’t matter now if they are children.”
About 1,200 people were killed in the Hamas-led cross-border attacks, the majority of them civilians, and 250 were taken hostage to Gaza.
Channel 12 did not clarify how it had obtained the recordings or who Haliva was speaking with. Israel’s Haaretz newspaper described the recordings as a format that allowed the retired officer to “give an interview … without actually being interviewed”.
Haliva’s comments about mass killings of Palestinian civilians did not make headlines in other mainstream Israeli outlets. They focused instead on his criticism of Benjamin Netanyahu and warnings of systemic failures in security and intelligence.
That coverage highlighted the vast gulf between how the war is perceived and discussed inside Israel’s borders and beyond them.
Among Israelis, Haliva is widely seen as a centrist critic of the current government and its far-right ministers such as Bezalel Smotrich and Itamar Ben-Gvir, as the general himself noted in the broadcast comments.
He quoted an internal critic at the intelligence directorate telling him it was “lucky” that many of those killed and kidnapped on 7 October 2023 were leftwing Israelis linked to peace movements.
“He told me: ‘If this had happened to us, the right, you wouldn’t have gone to war like this,’” Haliva said. “That’s what people believe here.”
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static111 said:Outsourcing thought to AI is like outsourcing labor to other markets. Once it's gone it isn't coming back.
I don’t think the choice is up to us, and plenty of businesses and creators are figuring out how to enhance earnings using AI… AI started before most of us were born. Create a machine that is patterned after the brains neural networks. Strip away the emotion. Learn from mistakes. Constantly improve. Constantly absorb data. We are starting to reap significant rewards now, but when AI realizes how to dominate us, we are screwed. There’s a reason this comment belongs in a perpetual war topic. Eventually humanity’s worst weakness will be used against us. War is the emotional manifestation of insisting one groups position is correct and there is no way to pivot or negotiate off of that. All four sides of the two current major wars exemplify that.
Which is better intelligence?
….The difference between Gemini's thought processes and a single journalist's opinion lies in their fundamental nature, purpose, and the way they synthesize information.Gemini's Thought Process* Data-Driven Synthesis: Gemini, as a large language model, doesn't "think" in the human sense. Its process is a complex form of pattern recognition and synthesis based on a vast dataset. When given a prompt, it accesses and processes information from a massive corpus of text, code, images, and other data. It identifies relevant patterns, relationships, and statistical probabilities to generate a coherent and relevant response.* Lack of Personal Experience or Emotion: Gemini has no personal feelings, biases (beyond what's present in its training data), or lived experiences. It cannot form an opinion based on intuition, personal values, or emotional connection to a topic. Its output is a calculated and structured representation of the information it has been trained on.* Multimodal Capabilities: Gemini is a "multimodal" AI, meaning it can process and understand different types of data, including text, images, and video, and generate outputs that combine these elements. This allows it to draw connections and insights that a traditional text-based analysis might miss.* Strives for Objectivity (within its constraints): The goal of a tool like Gemini is to provide a balanced and factual summary of a topic, representing multiple viewpoints when applicable. It's designed to be a comprehensive assistant that presents information rather than a subjective commentator. However, it can still "hallucinate" or generate plausible-sounding but incorrect information, and its outputs can reflect biases present in its training data.
A Single Journalist's Opinion* Personal and Subjective: A journalist's opinion is a highly personal and subjective product of their individual experiences, values, and perspective. It is an argument based on their interpretation of facts and events.* Human-Centric Synthesis: A journalist's opinion is not just about raw data. It is shaped by interviews, observations, and the human element of a story. They might use narrative techniques, emotional appeals, and personal anecdotes to make their point and connect with the reader.* Focus and Argument: An opinion piece is designed to take a specific stance and advocate for a particular viewpoint. It is an argument with a clear purpose and a call to action. It is not intended to be a neutral summary of all sides of an issue.* Ethical and Professional Judgment: A journalist's opinion is informed by their professional ethics and their role as a storyteller and public commentator. They are expected to be transparent about their biases and to base their arguments on verified facts, even while expressing a subjective viewpoint.0 -
“Before the war I never thought of getting married-- maybe after 30 or something. But when the war started my mind changed. Every night I am awakened by airstrikes. I live near the sea, and the helicopters are coming from the sea. Whenever I hear them, I am thinking: ‘What if this one is for me?” And if these shots are for me—how is it going to feel?’ A few months ago my uncles family—they died, to the very last, including the baby. They were sheltering in a school that got bombed. They say when something like that happens, you don’t feel anything. So if it happens to me, this is what I hope. But sometimes you get trapped beneath the rubble. And it takes a long time to die. It’s very scary to think about. For the first time in my life I’ve started to feel like I need someone-- someone to tell me that everything’s going to be okay. Four months ago I became engaged. Her name is Lama. She’s the sister of my best friend Kareem, who was killed in a bombing last year. I was driving to her house today. I’d put on jeans, and was smelling very good, and I started thinking: ‘Maybe I shouldn’t be so happy. Because things are so bad for everyone.’ But if I’m being honest, we are very happy. It is maybe even better than being in love in a normal situation. Sometimes when I wake up from the airstrikes: I’ll send her a very sweet message: ‘I hope you are very good,’ and so on. This is something that is nothing during normal times. But it’s a bit different when you are checking if someone is alive. All these things, which used to seem like nothing, are everything to us now. I visit her two or three times a week. Every time I go to her house, we have like five minutes or so. If she’s upset about Kareem, upset about the situation, afraid of the missiles, I’ll calm her down. I’ll give her a hug. It's a very great feeling, honestly. I don't know how to describe it. It’s not going to stop bullets, or bombs, but it makes you feel safe. By that I mean, at least I'm with her and she's with me. If something happens to me, it is going to happen to her. So we going to be in the same situation. We will live together, or we will die together. And just knowing this, it makes me feel safe.”
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Ahmed’s story is part of a series I am currently doing on the Palestinian Staff of Doctors Without Borders in Gaza. I will be sharing these stories over the next several days.From MSF: Ahmed Iqtifan is a computer engineering graduate, but like most young Gazans, he has turned his skills toward survival. In early 2024, he joined the water and sanitation department at Médecins Sans Frontières / MSF (Doctors Without Borders) in Gaza, Ahmed and the teams battle a crisis engineered by blockade: He coordinates clean water distributions and emergency sanitation projects, in the midst of fuel shortages, bombings, and constant displacement orders.
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video.⚠️⚡Ex-Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky reveals how critics of Israel are labeled “antisemites” to destroy their reputations.
The Antisemitism mechanism.
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No surprise and nothing new. It’s been happening for years on college campuses and even right here on these forums. Any criticism, in any context, of Israel is antisemitism.mickeyrat said:video.⚠️⚡Ex-Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky reveals how critics of Israel are labeled “antisemites” to destroy their reputations.
The Antisemitism mechanism.
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