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Yup, it’s a genocide. Even in the West Bank. And the US is subsidizing it.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/08/14/middleeast/settlement-plan-israel-palestinian-state-intl
https://www.cnn.com/2025/08/14/middleeast/israel-palestinians-gaza-displaced-intl
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trump could be out there leading on this and working on a cease fire. but he isn't.
he is too busy distracting from the fact that he is a pedo sexual assaulter and everyone by maga knows it.
imagine enabling genocide to protect your own political status."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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I’m claiming that Israel has many excuses that are true sometimes, but I don’t trust that every time a hospital, school etc is hit that that is the cause. Nor do I believe that every journalist that they kill has been a terror battalion leader since age 10. If they truly know where all these tunnels are, why not send a squad down there rather than bomb so many civilians. It’s the classic everything we do is because of terrorism routine.Lerxst1992 said:
Seriously ...you're claiming Hamas is not hiding under civilians in tunnels... which is a well-established fact.static111 said:Sounds like the Israeli propaganda is doing its work
Next you're going to claim that is not a war crime?
if you want to only question one side that’s your prerogative. I can admit that hamas is a terrible problem and not helping anything. However I find it indefensible to justify all the killing and taking of land from Palestinians just because Hamas exists.
You realize the Israelis claim to have been on that land 9,000 years before Muhammad was born?
Who knows if they're right, I guess it's a question of who believes the old testament. But I think the problem is a lot more complicated than your reasonable comment.
Palestine has never acknowledged Israel's right to exist, and they cannot get lasting peace until that happens and they figure out how to share the disputed land0 -
Because recognizing a state that is committing genocide against you is prudent.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/14/israel-appears-set-to-approve-controversial-settlement-of-3400-homes-in-west-bank
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Halifax2TheMax said:Because recognizing a state that is committing genocide against you is prudent.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/14/israel-appears-set-to-approve-controversial-settlement-of-3400-homes-in-west-bank
How are endless and repetitive accusations of hatred that you never attempt to prove with research or factual data fall under the stated purpose of this forum?
" reasoned debate and discussion - we can all learn something new."
Unless you are seriously arguing 3000 homes on disputed land equates to mass extermination?0 -
Occupied land with no room for Palestinians. Ask AI for the definition of genocide. Don’t be lazy, do your own research or, read a book and seek out alternative sources of information. Also, pay attention to quotation marks. It might assist with your understanding of the issue but I’m not certain.Lerxst1992 said:Halifax2TheMax said:Because recognizing a state that is committing genocide against you is prudent.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/14/israel-appears-set-to-approve-controversial-settlement-of-3400-homes-in-west-bank
How are endless and repetitive accusations of hatred that you never attempt to prove with research or factual data fall under the stated purpose of this forum?
" reasoned debate and discussion - we can all learn something new."
Unless you are seriously arguing 3000 homes on disputed land equates to mass extermination?09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Two examples of you deciding to make a personal attack which is Rule one OF losing a debate.. firstHalifax2TheMax said:
Occupied land with no room for Palestinians. Ask AI for the definition of genocide. Don’t be lazy, do your own research or, read a book and seek out alternative sources of information. Also, pay attention to quotation marks. It might assist with your understanding of the issue but I’m not certain.Lerxst1992 said:Halifax2TheMax said:Because recognizing a state that is committing genocide against you is prudent.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/14/israel-appears-set-to-approve-controversial-settlement-of-3400-homes-in-west-bank
How are endless and repetitive accusations of hatred that you never attempt to prove with research or factual data fall under the stated purpose of this forum?
" reasoned debate and discussion - we can all learn something new."
Unless you are seriously arguing 3000 homes on disputed land equates to mass extermination?
The quotes are a direct copy and paste from this forum, so that's proper English..
and secondly the word extermination is accurate. So go Google yourself
You have never provided any statistical evidence or any research that there's a mass extermination going on here. Attacks on the Jews of course there's plenty of evidence of mass extermination, but you always ignore that because it doesn't suit your opinion. You are an opinion jockey nothing more0 -
The quotes I was referring to are and were quotes in articles I’ve posted. You need to pay attention to what is posted.Lerxst1992 said:
Two examples of you deciding to make a personal attack which is Rule one OF losing a debate.. firstHalifax2TheMax said:
Occupied land with no room for Palestinians. Ask AI for the definition of genocide. Don’t be lazy, do your own research or, read a book and seek out alternative sources of information. Also, pay attention to quotation marks. It might assist with your understanding of the issue but I’m not certain.Lerxst1992 said:Halifax2TheMax said:Because recognizing a state that is committing genocide against you is prudent.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/14/israel-appears-set-to-approve-controversial-settlement-of-3400-homes-in-west-bank
How are endless and repetitive accusations of hatred that you never attempt to prove with research or factual data fall under the stated purpose of this forum?
" reasoned debate and discussion - we can all learn something new."
Unless you are seriously arguing 3000 homes on disputed land equates to mass extermination?
The quotes are a direct copy and paste from this forum, so that's proper English..
and secondly the word extermination is accurate. So go Google yourself
You have never provided any statistical evidence or any research that there's a mass extermination going on here. Attacks on the Jews of course there's plenty of evidence of mass extermination, but you always ignore that because it doesn't suit your opinion. You are an opinion jockey nothing more
So, ME expert, what was the population of the land Israel claims as it own 9000 years ago? And I’m sorry but I’ve never denied the existence of the holocaust while you appear to be in deep denial of current events. Sad.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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correct me if I am wrong. Israel does in fact exist, no?_____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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if not, who is starving and killing all the palestinians?mickeyrat said:correct me if I am wrong. Israel does in fact exist, no?"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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gimmesometruth27 said:
if not, who is starving and killing all the palestinians?mickeyrat said:correct me if I am wrong. Israel does in fact exist, no?
Hombres look much stronger than me and carrying huge bags of food. Unless that’s Hamas stealing 90% of the UN food deliveries, which doesn’t get posted here. Why not?0 -
Canaan, area variously defined in historical and biblical literature, but always centred on Palestine. Its original pre-Israelite inhabitants were called Canaanites. The names Canaan and Canaanite occur in cuneiform, Egyptian, and Phoenician writings from about the 15th century bce as well as in the Old Testament. In these sources, “Canaan” refers sometimes to an area encompassing all of Palestine and Syria, sometimes only to the land west of the Jordan River, and sometimes just to a strip of coastal land from Acre (ʿAkko) northward. The Israelites occupied and conquered Palestine, or Canaan, beginning in the late 2nd millennium bce, or perhaps earlier; and the Bible justifies such occupation by identifying Canaan with the Promised Land, the land promised to the Israelites by God.the first paragraph of this entry....._____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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Because it’s not happening. Stop with the Bibi propaganda.Lerxst1992 said:gimmesometruth27 said:
if not, who is starving and killing all the palestinians?mickeyrat said:correct me if I am wrong. Israel does in fact exist, no?Hombres look much stronger than me and carrying huge bags of food. Unless that’s Hamas stealing 90% of the UN food deliveries, which doesn’t get posted here. Why not?09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Halifax2TheMax said:
Because it’s not happening. Stop with the Bibi propaganda.Lerxst1992 said:gimmesometruth27 said:
if not, who is starving and killing all the palestinians?mickeyrat said:correct me if I am wrong. Israel does in fact exist, no?Hombres look much stronger than me and carrying huge bags of food. Unless that’s Hamas stealing 90% of the UN food deliveries, which doesn’t get posted here. Why not?A Hypothetical Calculation
Let's consider a few key periods and make some highly simplified assumptions.
1. The Ancient Population
* Initial Population (P_0): Biblical and historical estimates of the ancient Israelite population vary widely. Some scholars suggest a few hundred thousand people in the 10th century BCE, while others argue for much lower numbers in earlier periods. Let's take a generous but still widely debated estimate of 1 million people around the time of the First Temple (c. 900 BCE) as our starting point.
* Time Period (t): From 900 BCE to today, which is roughly 2,900 years.
* Annual Growth Rate (r): Pre-modern societies generally had very low population growth rates, often close to zero, because high birth rates were offset by high death rates. However, for the sake of this thought experiment, let's assume a tiny, consistent, positive growth rate. Let's use 0.2% per year (a value that is still very low by modern standards, but high for a pre-modern, pre-industrial population).
The Calculation
Using the exponential growth formula:
P(2900) = 1,000,000 * e^{(0.002 * 2900)}
P(2900) = 1,000,000 * e^{5.8}
P(2900) \approx 1,000,000 * 330.4
P(2900) \approx 330,400,000
This simple model suggests that if the ancient population was 1 million and grew at a constant rate of 0.2% annually for 2,900 years, it could reach over 330 million people. This doesn't even account for the entire Jewish diaspora.
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i don't know. why don't you post it from ai. so a genocide can be both sidesed.Lerxst1992 said:gimmesometruth27 said:
if not, who is starving and killing all the palestinians?mickeyrat said:correct me if I am wrong. Israel does in fact exist, no?Hombres look much stronger than me and carrying huge bags of food. Unless that’s Hamas stealing 90% of the UN food deliveries, which doesn’t get posted here. Why not?"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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anybody can take a random picture from the internet of men that appear to be middle eastern carrying bags in a desert and claim it is hamas stealing food. maybe if you shared a news link with the pic people may believe you.Lerxst1992 said:gimmesometruth27 said:
if not, who is starving and killing all the palestinians?mickeyrat said:correct me if I am wrong. Israel does in fact exist, no?Hombres look much stronger than me and carrying huge bags of food. Unless that’s Hamas stealing 90% of the UN food deliveries, which doesn’t get posted here. Why not?Post edited by gimmesometruth27 on"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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“Some scholars.” That’s your source? What a joke.Lerxst1992 said:Halifax2TheMax said:
Because it’s not happening. Stop with the Bibi propaganda.Lerxst1992 said:gimmesometruth27 said:
if not, who is starving and killing all the palestinians?mickeyrat said:correct me if I am wrong. Israel does in fact exist, no?Hombres look much stronger than me and carrying huge bags of food. Unless that’s Hamas stealing 90% of the UN food deliveries, which doesn’t get posted here. Why not?A Hypothetical Calculation
Let's consider a few key periods and make some highly simplified assumptions.
1. The Ancient Population
* Initial Population (P_0): Biblical and historical estimates of the ancient Israelite population vary widely. Some scholars suggest a few hundred thousand people in the 10th century BCE, while others argue for much lower numbers in earlier periods. Let's take a generous but still widely debated estimate of 1 million people around the time of the First Temple (c. 900 BCE) as our starting point.
* Time Period (t): From 900 BCE to today, which is roughly 2,900 years.
* Annual Growth Rate (r): Pre-modern societies generally had very low population growth rates, often close to zero, because high birth rates were offset by high death rates. However, for the sake of this thought experiment, let's assume a tiny, consistent, positive growth rate. Let's use 0.2% per year (a value that is still very low by modern standards, but high for a pre-modern, pre-industrial population).
The Calculation
Using the exponential growth formula:
P(2900) = 1,000,000 * e^{(0.002 * 2900)}
P(2900) = 1,000,000 * e^{5.8}
P(2900) \approx 1,000,000 * 330.4
P(2900) \approx 330,400,000
This simple model suggests that if the ancient population was 1 million and grew at a constant rate of 0.2% annually for 2,900 years, it could reach over 330 million people. This doesn't even account for the entire Jewish diaspora.
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