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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,740
    mickeyrat said:
    This visualization may help those still confused over what Israeli illegal colonization is.



    From someone acting innocent within a fully colonized country. They literally used to CELEBRATE the word colony here. Funny how things change once YOU got what’s good for you.
  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,740
    mickeyrat said:
    verify with AI.



    This misrepresentation is exactly why the Palestinians are starving. Their leadership refuses again and again to negotiate in good faith and relies instead on anti Israel bias to hope someone on the outside can help them  shove  the Jews into the sea for them.


    it also depends what questions you ask AI:

    “The Jewish people have a long and continuous connection to the land of Israel, with periods of self-governance spanning thousands of years
  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 9,447
    Well if AI says it…
  • 23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,917
    mickeyrat said:
    video


    ⚠️🇮🇱 Israeli guard to Catholic abbot:
    “Hide your cross. This is a Jewish place — it’s inappropriate.”

    Religious tolerance? Not here.
    Even a Catholic abbot was told to cover his faith in the Holy Land.

    This is beyond disrespectful. 🧵
    This situation is not new, it happens all the time..but if it happens from the other side, what are you??..
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  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 9,447

  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 44,225

    Q. & A.
    The Political Motives Behind the Gaza Aid Catastrophe
    As Palestinians continue to die of severe hunger, a former Israeli official explains what the latest plan is really meant to achieve.
    By Isaac Chotiner
    July 24, 2025
    A woman crouches next to boxes on the ground.
    Photograph from Reuters

    There are currently four main sites in Gaza where Palestinians can receive humanitarian aid. The sites, which were opened two months ago, are run by a nonprofit called the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation (G.H.F.) and supported by the governments of Israel and the United States. Previously, the United Nations and other groups distributed aid at hundreds of locations; that system, which was frequently stymied by Israel preventing aid from entering Gaza, was largely replaced by the G.H.F.’s four sites. More than seven hundred and fifty people seeking aid at the sites have been killed. The vast majority of the fatalities are attributable to soldiers with the Israel Defense Forces, though American security contractors, who help operate the sites, have also fired on Palestinians. (In a statement to The New Yorker, the G.H.F. said that, except for one incident last week, when Hamas “invoked a stampede” that killed twenty people, no one has died at or near the sites.) The G.H.F. claims that it has distributed more than eighty-five million meals, and some non-G.H.F. aid trucks are also entering Gaza. But Palestinians continue to die from malnutrition—there were eighteen such deaths in twenty-four hours this past weekend, according to Gaza’s health ministry. Before the G.H.F. sites opened, the United Nations and a variety of N.G.O.s warned Israeli officials that they were likely to be dangerous and ineffective; despite the death toll, the Israeli government and the G.H.F. have made no effort to alter their approach.

    To understand how the G.H.F. was formed, and what its intentions are, I recently spoke by phone with Michael Milshtein, the head of the Palestinian Studies Forum at Tel Aviv University. Milshtein was previously the head of the Department for Palestinian Affairs in the I.D.F.’s military-intelligence wing, and a senior adviser to the commander of COGAT, which supervises civilian policy in the West Bank and Gaza Strip. During our conversation, which has been edited for length and clarity, we discussed why the G.H.F. has been such a disaster for Palestinians, the Israeli government’s motives for its creation, and how the war aims of Benjamin Netanyahu, Israel’s Prime Minister, have changed.

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  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,935
    BF25394 said:
    but not the us. and the us vetos all the resolutions to recognize them. so there's that.
    But you were acting like it was peculiar for him to be referring to Palestine "as if it's a country," and the point is that many people around the world do recognize it as a country regardless of what the U.S. does.
    all due respect, the us repeatedly weilding it's vetos at the un makes them more powerful than the rest of the world relating to israel.
    This is beside the point, which is that you were treating the poster's conception of Palestine as a country as if it is some sort of outlier view. It isn't. Indeed, one of the permanent members of the Security Council just recognized Palestine this week.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,944
    BF25394 said:
    BF25394 said:
    but not the us. and the us vetos all the resolutions to recognize them. so there's that.
    But you were acting like it was peculiar for him to be referring to Palestine "as if it's a country," and the point is that many people around the world do recognize it as a country regardless of what the U.S. does.
    all due respect, the us repeatedly weilding it's vetos at the un makes them more powerful than the rest of the world relating to israel.
    This is beside the point, which is that you were treating the poster's conception of Palestine as a country as if it is some sort of outlier view. It isn't. Indeed, one of the permanent members of the Security Council just recognized Palestine this week.
    that doesn't mean that the us is going to ever moderate it's stance of protecting israel at the un at all costs at every turn. france does not hold that power, and trump sure as fuck is not capable of altering course.
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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,740
    BF25394 said:
    BF25394 said:
    but not the us. and the us vetos all the resolutions to recognize them. so there's that.
    But you were acting like it was peculiar for him to be referring to Palestine "as if it's a country," and the point is that many people around the world do recognize it as a country regardless of what the U.S. does.
    all due respect, the us repeatedly weilding it's vetos at the un makes them more powerful than the rest of the world relating to israel.
    This is beside the point, which is that you were treating the poster's conception of Palestine as a country as if it is some sort of outlier view. It isn't. Indeed, one of the permanent members of the Security Council just recognized Palestine this week.


    A typical country, even authoritarian ones, the leadership has some level of accountability to the people. Even Putin needs to be careful at times. Meanwhile, hamas, attacks women and children during a ceasfire, illegally takes hostages, two years later still holds them and hides in tunnels under its own women and children, and fails to negotiate in good faith. At least trump is trying to negotiate peace  with Hamas. FWIW, that’s something the democrats have NEVER been willing to do.
  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 9,447

  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,445


    No genocide here. 🤷‍♂️ 
    Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall




  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,629


    No genocide here. 🤷‍♂️ 

    Fucking hell.  It's beyond sad.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni











  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 31,478
    brianlux said:


    No genocide here. 🤷‍♂️ 

    Fucking hell.  It's beyond sad.
    It’s beyond disgusting that this is happening and this nation is complicit! 
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 31,478
    https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2025/07/25/politics/donald-trump-israel-hamas-war
    He’s giving the go ahead to finish the extermination this way they can get the plans started on the seaside resorts! He’s waited long enough plus Palestinian’s want to die 
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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,740
    Palestine's population has increased over the last year, although the rate of growth has slowed
    Here's a breakdown of the population changes
    • Overall Population Growth: The annual population growth in Palestine in 2024 was 2.36%, slightly lower than 2.39% in 2023.


    Multiple sources indicate that Palestine's population has increased in 2025.
    • Worldometer shows the State of Palestine population at 5,589,623 at mid-year 2025.
    • DataReportal states that Palestine's population increased by 90 thousand (+1.7 percent) between early 2024 and the start of 2025.
    • StatisticsTimes.com projects the population at 5.59 million as of July 1, 2025, compared to 5.50 million in 2024. 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 41,915
    Palestine's population has increased over the last year, although the rate of growth has slowed
    Here's a breakdown of the population changes
    • Overall Population Growth: The annual population growth in Palestine in 2024 was 2.36%, slightly lower than 2.39% in 2023.


    Multiple sources indicate that Palestine's population has increased in 2025.
    • Worldometer shows the State of Palestine population at 5,589,623 at mid-year 2025.
    • DataReportal states that Palestine's population increased by 90 thousand (+1.7 percent) between early 2024 and the start of 2025.
    • StatisticsTimes.com projects the population at 5.59 million as of July 1, 2025, compared to 5.50 million in 2024. 
    AI guy at it again.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,944
    Palestine's population has increased over the last year, although the rate of growth has slowed
    Here's a breakdown of the population changes
    • Overall Population Growth: The annual population growth in Palestine in 2024 was 2.36%, slightly lower than 2.39% in 2023.


    Multiple sources indicate that Palestine's population has increased in 2025.
    • Worldometer shows the State of Palestine population at 5,589,623 at mid-year 2025.
    • DataReportal states that Palestine's population increased by 90 thousand (+1.7 percent) between early 2024 and the start of 2025.
    • StatisticsTimes.com projects the population at 5.59 million as of July 1, 2025, compared to 5.50 million in 2024. 
    AI guy at it again.
    how are they having all those kids with no fucking hospitals left?
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 41,915
    Palestine's population has increased over the last year, although the rate of growth has slowed
    Here's a breakdown of the population changes
    • Overall Population Growth: The annual population growth in Palestine in 2024 was 2.36%, slightly lower than 2.39% in 2023.


    Multiple sources indicate that Palestine's population has increased in 2025.
    • Worldometer shows the State of Palestine population at 5,589,623 at mid-year 2025.
    • DataReportal states that Palestine's population increased by 90 thousand (+1.7 percent) between early 2024 and the start of 2025.
    • StatisticsTimes.com projects the population at 5.59 million as of July 1, 2025, compared to 5.50 million in 2024. 
    AI guy at it again.
    how are they having all those kids with no fucking hospitals left?
    I don’t know. Maybe someone can ask AI that exact question?
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  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,935
    BF25394 said:
    BF25394 said:
    but not the us. and the us vetos all the resolutions to recognize them. so there's that.
    But you were acting like it was peculiar for him to be referring to Palestine "as if it's a country," and the point is that many people around the world do recognize it as a country regardless of what the U.S. does.
    all due respect, the us repeatedly weilding it's vetos at the un makes them more powerful than the rest of the world relating to israel.
    This is beside the point, which is that you were treating the poster's conception of Palestine as a country as if it is some sort of outlier view. It isn't. Indeed, one of the permanent members of the Security Council just recognized Palestine this week.
    that doesn't mean that the us is going to ever moderate it's stance of protecting israel at the un at all costs at every turn. france does not hold that power, and trump sure as fuck is not capable of altering course.
    You keep avoiding the actual point, which is that, contrary to your implication, many people around the world recognize Palestine as a country. None of your attempts to explain away this fact change it.

    Would you take the same exception to someone referring to Taiwan as a country? Fewer than ten percent as many U.N. members recognize Taiwan as a country as recognize Palestine, and China's influence on the Taiwan question is perfectly analogous to U.S. influence on the Palestine question, so that's not going to change. I can't imagine that you would suggest that someone shouldn't be taken seriously because they referred to Taiwan as a country, as you did here in response to someone referring to Palestine as a country.
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