#46 President Joe Biden

Gern Blansten · July 24

cincybearcat said:

I feel like if we had a normal presidency going on right now, Biden's decline and the events surrounding it would be a much bigger story and we'd actually get some of the answers we really deserve. Unfortunately, Trump and the GOP have created so many shitstorms that Biden's story is minimized. It seems like a lot of "My team" bs on the board lately.

Personally I would like all Epstein offenders to be held accountable, for the truth about Biden to come to light and people held accountable, for illegal immigration to be under control and people in the US illegally to be removed or path to citizenship depending on the factors but by an ICE agency that isn't picking people up at their immigration hearings or at little league ball parks, to ensure fair trade without adding what amounts to tax on the American consumers, to reduce government spending, eliminate waste and balance the budget with a scalpel instead of a chainsaw.....

Biden got old. What makes you think something needs to "come to light"? You've seen him on TV recently right? He's still the same old Biden.

cincybearcat · July 24

mrussel1 said:

cincybearcat said:

I feel like if we had a normal presidency going on right now, Biden's decline and the events surrounding it would be a much bigger story and we'd actually get some of the answers we really deserve. Unfortunately, Trump and the GOP have created so many shitstorms that Biden's story is minimized. It seems like a lot of "My team" bs on the board lately.

Personally I would like all Epstein offenders to be held accountable, for the truth about Biden to come to light and people held accountable, for illegal immigration to be under control and people in the US illegally to be removed or path to citizenship depending on the factors but by an ICE agency that isn't picking people up at their immigration hearings or at little league ball parks, to ensure fair trade without adding what amounts to tax on the American consumers, to reduce government spending, eliminate waste and balance the budget with a scalpel instead of a chainsaw.....

How do you hold people "accountable"? This is the language that I mean when I said words matter. Are we saying arrest them, even if there is not statutory crime (there isn't)? Does this mean publicly flog them yelling "SHAME"? What does it mean to you?

It means whatever the law allows....and if it allows nothing then the court of public opinion.....that's why I used that wording. I do not think I can say what accountable means until I know what happened, when and what the law allows.

cincybearcat · July 24

Gern Blansten said:

cincybearcat said:

I feel like if we had a normal presidency going on right now, Biden's decline and the events surrounding it would be a much bigger story and we'd actually get some of the answers we really deserve. Unfortunately, Trump and the GOP have created so many shitstorms that Biden's story is minimized. It seems like a lot of "My team" bs on the board lately.

Personally I would like all Epstein offenders to be held accountable, for the truth about Biden to come to light and people held accountable, for illegal immigration to be under control and people in the US illegally to be removed or path to citizenship depending on the factors but by an ICE agency that isn't picking people up at their immigration hearings or at little league ball parks, to ensure fair trade without adding what amounts to tax on the American consumers, to reduce government spending, eliminate waste and balance the budget with a scalpel instead of a chainsaw.....

Biden got old. What makes you think something needs to "come to light"? You've seen him on TV recently right? He's still the same old Biden.

Biden was old....he got older. He clearly has issues. Someone clearly knew and they did things to manage him to keep the public from knowing.

Tim Simmons · July 24

So handlers for politicians did what they have always done.

Gern Blansten · July 24

cincybearcat said:

Gern Blansten said:

cincybearcat said:

I feel like if we had a normal presidency going on right now, Biden's decline and the events surrounding it would be a much bigger story and we'd actually get some of the answers we really deserve. Unfortunately, Trump and the GOP have created so many shitstorms that Biden's story is minimized. It seems like a lot of "My team" bs on the board lately.

Personally I would like all Epstein offenders to be held accountable, for the truth about Biden to come to light and people held accountable, for illegal immigration to be under control and people in the US illegally to be removed or path to citizenship depending on the factors but by an ICE agency that isn't picking people up at their immigration hearings or at little league ball parks, to ensure fair trade without adding what amounts to tax on the American consumers, to reduce government spending, eliminate waste and balance the budget with a scalpel instead of a chainsaw.....

Biden got old. What makes you think something needs to "come to light"? You've seen him on TV recently right? He's still the same old Biden.

Biden was old....he got older. He clearly has issues. Someone clearly knew and they did things to manage him to keep the public from knowing.

I just don't understand this narrative...what did they keep from the public? I remember the entire GOP and a lot of Dems constantly talking about his age and questioning if he could serve another four years. None of that was a secret.

The GOP has put out this narrative that something was hidden and you seem to have bought that.

cincybearcat · July 24

Tim Simmons said:

So handlers for politicians did what they have always done.

It's ok that you are ok with it. I am not. We had the president of the united states that certainly appeared to be unable to perform his job. Was he? Wasn't he? Who was if he wasn't? I think it's important. I would love to watch a documentary on it by a respected, non-partisan journalist.

I do find it weird what many people are willing to ignore if it's someone on their team though. If you saw trump like that....same opinion? I doubt it. Many here talked 25th amendment with trump in both terms....but not Biden? It's just strange and sad.

Merkin Baller · July 24

cincybearcat said:

Gern Blansten said:

cincybearcat said:

I feel like if we had a normal presidency going on right now, Biden's decline and the events surrounding it would be a much bigger story and we'd actually get some of the answers we really deserve. Unfortunately, Trump and the GOP have created so many shitstorms that Biden's story is minimized. It seems like a lot of "My team" bs on the board lately.

Personally I would like all Epstein offenders to be held accountable, for the truth about Biden to come to light and people held accountable, for illegal immigration to be under control and people in the US illegally to be removed or path to citizenship depending on the factors but by an ICE agency that isn't picking people up at their immigration hearings or at little league ball parks, to ensure fair trade without adding what amounts to tax on the American consumers, to reduce government spending, eliminate waste and balance the budget with a scalpel instead of a chainsaw.....

Biden got old. What makes you think something needs to "come to light"? You've seen him on TV recently right? He's still the same old Biden.

Biden was old....he got older. He clearly has issues. Someone clearly knew and they did things to manage him to keep the public from knowing.

& the exact same is happening w/ our current POTUS.

Tim Simmons · July 24

cincybearcat said:

Tim Simmons said:

So handlers for politicians did what they have always done.

It's ok that you are ok with it. I am not. We had the president of the united states that certainly appeared to be unable to perform his job. Was he? Wasn't he? Who was if he wasn't? I think it's important. I would love to watch a documentary on it by a respected, non-partisan journalist.

I do find it weird what many people are willing to ignore if it's someone on their team though. If you saw trump like that....same opinion? I doubt it. Many here talked 25th amendment with trump in both terms....but not Biden? It's just strange and sad.

I’m not ok with it, but also, there’s nothing I can do other than when it’s noted that someone was in the Biden administration, I’ll severely discount their opinion or take their take at less than face value and most likely not vote for them or their candidate or whatever. But other than that, there’s nothing else that can be done. DC is full of worms like these. Both sides.

Halifax2TheMax · July 24

FFS.

Gern Blansten · July 24

cincybearcat said:

Tim Simmons said:

So handlers for politicians did what they have always done.

It's ok that you are ok with it. I am not. We had the president of the united states that certainly appeared to be unable to perform his job. Was he? Wasn't he? Who was if he wasn't? I think it's important. I would love to watch a documentary on it by a respected, non-partisan journalist.

I do find it weird what many people are willing to ignore if it's someone on their team though. If you saw trump like that....same opinion? I doubt it. Many here talked 25th amendment with trump in both terms....but not Biden? It's just strange and sad.

I'm not ignoring anything. Biden didn't look good...but he was still able to do his job. When Biden trailed off he would just shake it off with a "well whatever" and then get back to the point. Trump will fucking trail off and talk about sharks and magnets. There is no comparison.

Gern Blansten · July 24

Merkin Baller said:

cincybearcat said:

Gern Blansten said:

cincybearcat said:

I feel like if we had a normal presidency going on right now, Biden's decline and the events surrounding it would be a much bigger story and we'd actually get some of the answers we really deserve. Unfortunately, Trump and the GOP have created so many shitstorms that Biden's story is minimized. It seems like a lot of "My team" bs on the board lately.

Personally I would like all Epstein offenders to be held accountable, for the truth about Biden to come to light and people held accountable, for illegal immigration to be under control and people in the US illegally to be removed or path to citizenship depending on the factors but by an ICE agency that isn't picking people up at their immigration hearings or at little league ball parks, to ensure fair trade without adding what amounts to tax on the American consumers, to reduce government spending, eliminate waste and balance the budget with a scalpel instead of a chainsaw.....

Biden got old. What makes you think something needs to "come to light"? You've seen him on TV recently right? He's still the same old Biden.

Biden was old....he got older. He clearly has issues. Someone clearly knew and they did things to manage him to keep the public from knowing.

& the exact same is happening w/ our current POTUS.

No shit...Biden didn't even run. Fuck that shit. Trump is fucking destroying our system from within. Get with the program.

cincybearcat · July 24

Gern Blansten said:

cincybearcat said:

Tim Simmons said:

So handlers for politicians did what they have always done.

It's ok that you are ok with it. I am not. We had the president of the united states that certainly appeared to be unable to perform his job. Was he? Wasn't he? Who was if he wasn't? I think it's important. I would love to watch a documentary on it by a respected, non-partisan journalist.

I do find it weird what many people are willing to ignore if it's someone on their team though. If you saw trump like that....same opinion? I doubt it. Many here talked 25th amendment with trump in both terms....but not Biden? It's just strange and sad.

I'm not ignoring anything. Biden didn't look good...but he was still able to do his job. When Biden trailed off he would just shake it off with a "well whatever" and then get back to the point. Trump will fucking trail off and talk about sharks and magnets. There is no comparison.

Biden was unable to do a lot of things on camera. I would like to know what he didn't do off camera.

And again, I am talking about Biden here. As I said in my first post, if we had a normal presidency following him, it would have been a bigger story and hopefully we'd know more. And you prove this point by deflecting to trump. As if wondering what the fuck happened with Biden behind the scenes is a function of trump at all.

The trump presidency worries me far greater than a declining Biden presidency for sure.

cincybearcat · July 24

Tim Simmons said:

cincybearcat said:

Tim Simmons said:

So handlers for politicians did what they have always done.

It's ok that you are ok with it. I am not. We had the president of the united states that certainly appeared to be unable to perform his job. Was he? Wasn't he? Who was if he wasn't? I think it's important. I would love to watch a documentary on it by a respected, non-partisan journalist.

I do find it weird what many people are willing to ignore if it's someone on their team though. If you saw trump like that....same opinion? I doubt it. Many here talked 25th amendment with trump in both terms....but not Biden? It's just strange and sad.

I’m not ok with it, but also, there’s nothing I can do other than when it’s noted that someone was in the Biden administration, I’ll severely discount their opinion or take their take at less than face value and most likely not vote for them or their candidate or whatever. But other than that, there’s nothing else that can be done. DC is full of worms like these. Both sides.

Ok, makes sense. I still want to know and hope we do get more info at some point. But I understand your perspective.

Gern Blansten · July 24

cincybearcat said:

Gern Blansten said:

cincybearcat said:

Tim Simmons said:

So handlers for politicians did what they have always done.

It's ok that you are ok with it. I am not. We had the president of the united states that certainly appeared to be unable to perform his job. Was he? Wasn't he? Who was if he wasn't? I think it's important. I would love to watch a documentary on it by a respected, non-partisan journalist.

I do find it weird what many people are willing to ignore if it's someone on their team though. If you saw trump like that....same opinion? I doubt it. Many here talked 25th amendment with trump in both terms....but not Biden? It's just strange and sad.

I'm not ignoring anything. Biden didn't look good...but he was still able to do his job. When Biden trailed off he would just shake it off with a "well whatever" and then get back to the point. Trump will fucking trail off and talk about sharks and magnets. There is no comparison.

Biden was unable to do a lot of things on camera. I would like to know what he didn't do off camera.

And again, I am talking about Biden here. As I said in my first post, if we had a normal presidency following him, it would have been a bigger story and hopefully we'd know more. And you prove this point by deflecting to trump. As if wondering what the fuck happened with Biden behind the scenes is a function of trump at all.

The trump presidency worries me far greater than a declining Biden presidency for sure.

That's the part I don't get...you really think he only did something off camera that would shock us? That never happened on camera?

As someone dealing with a parent with dementia I can tell you that Biden does not have dementia. Early onset signs? Maybe....but these things you think he might have done behind the scenes would have absolutely happened on camera.

bootlegger10 · July 24

gimmesometruth27 said:

fox news link.

agenda is known, link will not be clicked.

Everyone has an agenda.

Halifax2TheMax · July 24

It’s a fucking joke. When was it anyone here realized that Biden was old? 2019? 2020? 2023? Yesterday? He withdrew from the race and the US still elected stupid. And old and mentally unstable/old/declined. How’s your pets doing?

But did you hear about Brandon’s hair sniffing?

cincybearcat · July 24

Gern Blansten said:

cincybearcat said:

Gern Blansten said:

cincybearcat said:

Tim Simmons said:

So handlers for politicians did what they have always done.

It's ok that you are ok with it. I am not. We had the president of the united states that certainly appeared to be unable to perform his job. Was he? Wasn't he? Who was if he wasn't? I think it's important. I would love to watch a documentary on it by a respected, non-partisan journalist.

I do find it weird what many people are willing to ignore if it's someone on their team though. If you saw trump like that....same opinion? I doubt it. Many here talked 25th amendment with trump in both terms....but not Biden? It's just strange and sad.

I'm not ignoring anything. Biden didn't look good...but he was still able to do his job. When Biden trailed off he would just shake it off with a "well whatever" and then get back to the point. Trump will fucking trail off and talk about sharks and magnets. There is no comparison.

Biden was unable to do a lot of things on camera. I would like to know what he didn't do off camera.

And again, I am talking about Biden here. As I said in my first post, if we had a normal presidency following him, it would have been a bigger story and hopefully we'd know more. And you prove this point by deflecting to trump. As if wondering what the fuck happened with Biden behind the scenes is a function of trump at all.

The trump presidency worries me far greater than a declining Biden presidency for sure.

That's the part I don't get...you really think he only did something off camera that would shock us? That never happened on camera?

As someone dealing with a parent with dementia I can tell you that Biden does not have dementia. Early onset signs? Maybe....but these things you think he might have done behind the scenes would have absolutely happened on camera.

I don;t know, that's why I want to know.

And to be honest I know they are not going to say anything now. And during the presidency I understand the reasoning they would have for covering up any mental decline (if they had to). But, as I said, I would love to see a documentary about it in a few years or so.

I would also love to see a documentary of trump behind the scenes. His 1st doctor that said he was tall and not that fat....they think we are stupid or have no attention span and will just forget....or both. It would be a fascinating documentary on the lies they tell us.

Lerxst1992 · July 24

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

josevolution said:

Don’t worry Lerx this administration will make sure to bring to justice Biden Obama Clinton & Harris for the biggest crimes perpetrated against this nation!

It’s great when the Democrats are caught in a significant lie and obstruct democracy that it’s so funny. But yet you want moderates to take you seriously when you complain about trum ? It should be obvious this deception doesn’t work

Obstruct democracy? WTF are you on about? When you say stuff like this, you do sound MAGA. Words matter.

Listen, this issue that you won't let go is a nit, both compared to the weakening of institutions that is occurring daily in this country, and compared the gigantic lie that led us into Iraq that caused hundreds of thousands of casualties and billions in lost treasure. You want a harp on an American scandal, get ruffled up about that.

They were dishonest about his condition. dishonest about who was calling the shots. It clearly wasn't him. They delayed and delayed. They forced a nominee on us without a vote. She clearly needed to be vetted against her older extremist positions and her current positions, but we were denied that Democratic process. These are all facts. You can attack these facts as much as you want but that' says more about your partisanship than anything else

Lerxst1992 · July 24

cincybearcat said:

Tim Simmons said:

So handlers for politicians did what they have always done.

It's ok that you are ok with it. I am not. We had the president of the united states that certainly appeared to be unable to perform his job. Was he? Wasn't he? Who was if he wasn't? I think it's important. I would love to watch a documentary on it by a respected, non-partisan journalist.

I do find it weird what many people are willing to ignore if it's someone on their team though. If you saw trump like that....same opinion? I doubt it. Many here talked 25th amendment with trump in both terms....but not Biden? It's just strange and sad.

The Republicans are ready to attack them in the next presidential election for exactly this. Who was running the country? Why were significant facts hidden from the public? Why was a nominee forced on the party without vote, is that democracy?

It's amazing that the party dabbles in the dribble of Colbert and Epstein which is not going to help them win any votes in the future. Epstein should be investigated as a criminal matter, but it's not a political idea that's going to change voters Minds.

And in 3 years dems are going to get hit with a sledgehammer with the Biden fiasco, And all the party wants to do is sweep it under the rug

Lerxst1992 · July 24

Gern Blansten said:

cincybearcat said:

Gern Blansten said:

cincybearcat said:

Tim Simmons said:

So handlers for politicians did what they have always done.

It's ok that you are ok with it. I am not. We had the president of the united states that certainly appeared to be unable to perform his job. Was he? Wasn't he? Who was if he wasn't? I think it's important. I would love to watch a documentary on it by a respected, non-partisan journalist.

I do find it weird what many people are willing to ignore if it's someone on their team though. If you saw trump like that....same opinion? I doubt it. Many here talked 25th amendment with trump in both terms....but not Biden? It's just strange and sad.

I'm not ignoring anything. Biden didn't look good...but he was still able to do his job. When Biden trailed off he would just shake it off with a "well whatever" and then get back to the point. Trump will fucking trail off and talk about sharks and magnets. There is no comparison.

Biden was unable to do a lot of things on camera. I would like to know what he didn't do off camera.

And again, I am talking about Biden here. As I said in my first post, if we had a normal presidency following him, it would have been a bigger story and hopefully we'd know more. And you prove this point by deflecting to trump. As if wondering what the fuck happened with Biden behind the scenes is a function of trump at all.

The trump presidency worries me far greater than a declining Biden presidency for sure.

That's the part I don't get...you really think he only did something off camera that would shock us? That never happened on camera?

As someone dealing with a parent with dementia I can tell you that Biden does not have dementia. Early onset signs? Maybe....but these things you think he might have done behind the scenes would have absolutely happened on camera.

I'm sorry to hear your news, I have the same experience and think the exact opposite.

Biden is extremely resonant with my personal experience. Dementia is known for good periods and bad periods. the Peaks and valleys are each extreme and defy logic.

If you put someone in a comfortable situation like a rally and theyre reading prepared statements that they've read for years and years they can excel.

But if you put someone in a difficult stage like a debate with someone that they dislike enormously where there's a lot of pressure they can crash.

That's what we saw, and George Clooney confirmed he had the same biden experience a month earlier, and Bob Woodward a year earlier.

They were hiding biden but yet we have three proven data points with three different sources . Biden was clearly not himself. There is no debating that. I'm sorry

#46 President Joe Biden

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